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11-20-2006, 11:13 AM

If any of you is Canadian or even know anything about the following two points, please share your input.
Thanks in advance

1. Any organization in Gibralter that can help a Canadian adult webmaster get incorporated there (in EU). I need names of specific organizations that do work with adult webmasters.
2. Which organizations can help a Canadian adult webmaster get a merchant account? I am sure lots of webmasters fromCanada have already done it. Please advise which companies to approach, how and what to expect.
3. Any 3rd party billing company that accepts VISA from a Canadian adult webmaster get other than verotel?
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11-20-2006, 12:13 PM

Here are some places I was told to checkout regarding obtaining a European presense.

http://www.offshoregibraltar.com/

http://offshorexplorer.com/

http://www.secretariatservices.net/

http://www.jordans.co.uk/

http://www.gibraltarlaw.com/corporate_commercial.htm

They were sent to me by Kirsty of SegPay.com who (once you have a Euro presense) can accomadate you for billing.

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11-20-2006, 12:32 PM

thanks calico
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11-20-2006, 01:11 PM

You're more than welcome. I'm an Australian webmaster so I'm in the same boat as you.
After looking at the above links it seems the cheapest way to get into Europe appears to be the puchase of a U.K Limited company for a few hundred dollars. Jordans & Secretariatservices both offer packages for this.
I haven't made my mind up as to exactly what to do, but Gibralter does look good.
As for billing...I've seen others suggesting: http://www.hughesbilling.com/
Though I can't say I've ever heard of them. However, that doesn't mean they aren't good...just not as well known.
Anyone else have any ideas or solutions? There are plenty of Canadians & Aussies who need these services.

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11-20-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Calico Jack

You're more than welcome. I'm an Australian webmaster so I'm in the same boat as you.
After looking at the above links it seems the cheapest way to get into Europe appears to be the puchase of a U.K Limited company for a few hundred dollars. Jordans & Secretariatservices both offer packages for this.
I haven't made my mind up as to exactly what to do, but Gibralter does look good.
As for billing...I've seen others suggesting: http://www.hughesbilling.com/
Though I can't say I've ever heard of them. However, that doesn't mean they aren't good...just not as well known.
Anyone else have any ideas or solutions? There are plenty of Canadians & Aussies who need these services.

Yes you are right
we are all in same soup now!
I have checked out Hughesbilling...they are not terribly popular. Some of theur phone numbers listed on the site are not working !
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11-20-2006, 01:36 PM

Thanks for the info.
Does anyone have anything on the companies listed in the links above.
Much appreciated.

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11-20-2006, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by JimmiDean

Thanks for the info.
Does anyone have anything on the companies listed in the links above.
Much appreciated.

Nothing to say about them other than they all have legal expertise and know what they are doing - and familiar with offshore operations. Know most of em and they have been around long before the net.

It's just a matter of what jurisdiction you may want for incorporation - Jordans is prob the largest formation agent in the UK. If you want to establish in Gib - use a Gib agent etc.

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11-20-2006, 02:19 PM

well some of you guys seem to be quite knowlwdgeable.
What you sugegst is the best route for the Canadian or Australian webmasters?
Get merchant accounts?
or incorporate in EU
If EU then is it better to go the UK company route or is Gib a better proposition?
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11-20-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by RegUser

If EU then is it better to go the UK company route or is Gib a better proposition?

I'd like some opinions on this too. I was looking at a U.K company it's they seem easier and cheaper to setup and it's almost instant. But there must be some cons against going down this road.
Is there amyone who's done this that can offer their actual expreiences...was it easy or a hassle, cheap/expensive, did billers accept you with open arms etc etc etc

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11-20-2006, 06:57 PM

I don't know if this helps anyone here, but GMBill.com is an Australian-based biller. They handle billing for abbywinters.com among others.
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11-20-2006, 07:06 PM

I am Canadian with a UK company setup through Jordans. 365 and PaycomEU will 3rd party bill for you.

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11-20-2006, 07:18 PM

GMBill.com is very select who they operate with

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11-20-2006, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by RegUser

If any of you is Canadian or even know anything about the following two points, please share your input.
Thanks in advance

1. Any organization in Gibralter that can help a Canadian adult webmaster get incorporated there (in EU). I need names of specific organizations that do work with adult webmasters.
2. Which organizations can help a Canadian adult webmaster get a merchant account? I am sure lots of webmasters fromCanada have already done it. Please advise which companies to approach, how and what to expect.
3. Any 3rd party billing company that accepts VISA from a Canadian adult webmaster get other than verotel?

Did you talk to Verotel about their $1500 pro package?? I thought someone posted that they would assist or do everything for you including getting you incorporated somewhere.
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11-20-2006, 07:27 PM

I just went to Abbywinter.com and it says 'Owned & operated by GMBill'.
Anyone know other sites that use them?

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11-20-2006, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Calico Jack

I just went to Abbywinter.com and it says 'Owned & operated by GMBill'.
Anyone know other sites that use them?

girlsoutwest.com and ishotmyself.com are using them (also both Australian).
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11-20-2006, 11:58 PM

i used to use GMBill .. they are top quality ..

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11-21-2006, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by RegUser

If any of you is Canadian or even know anything about the following two points, please share your input.
Thanks in advance

1. Any organization in Gibralter that can help a Canadian adult webmaster get incorporated there (in EU). I need names of specific organizations that do work with adult webmasters.
2. Which organizations can help a Canadian adult webmaster get a merchant account? I am sure lots of webmasters fromCanada have already done it. Please advise which companies to approach, how and what to expect.
3. Any 3rd party billing company that accepts VISA from a Canadian adult webmaster get other than verotel?

Hi - give me a call. Interconsult Group are based in Jersey, Channel Islands and work closely with offshore trust company who can incorporate EU companies. Interconsult specialise in providing merchant accounts to adult business through our European acquiring banks (rates 4.5% - 8%). We can definately help you on this one.

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11-21-2006, 01:48 AM

Thanks warchild.
i too think that getting incorporation in EU is the best answer.

Does anyone know of any good org in Canada to get merchant account?

whats the number to call you vince?
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11-21-2006, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by Vince Charlton

Hi - give me a call. Interconsult Group are based in Jersey, Channel Islands and work closely with offshore trust company who can incorporate EU companies. Interconsult specialise in providing merchant accounts to adult business through our European acquiring banks (rates 4.5% - 8%). We can definately help you on this one.

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11-21-2006, 02:07 PM

Anyone else in Canada or Australia who's actually incorporated in Europe? We'd love to hear your stories, plus the pros & cons of doing so.

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11-21-2006, 02:28 PM

Going to look into Moneris after Paymonde closing. Bump for this thread.

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11-21-2006, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by dready

Going to look into Moneris after Paymonde closing. Bump for this thread.

Moneris is extremly doubtful
All banks run away from adult. It is shame though otherwise I too would prefer to have a merchant account in Canada and deal with this crap myself.

Come on folks pls shoot your suggestions
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11-21-2006, 05:25 PM

This Canadian site processes with Moneris:

mea-culpa.com/en/
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11-21-2006, 05:33 PM

Moneris may have allowed them to use merchant account becaus eof their past relationship perhaps.
Are there any other canadian organizations/banks/trusts that do allow adult merchant account?
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11-21-2006, 07:41 PM

Perhaps this is a good place to ask...

It's been a while since I took a look at what's actually necessary to incorporate in the US. I remember there's was something about the principal owner needing to be a US citizen or something along those lines.

Now, would someone with dual citizenship (US and Canadian) residing in Canada be able to incorporate a US business and then register with Paycom, CCBill et al?
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11-22-2006, 02:47 AM

i guess you will need to show some physical address
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11-22-2006, 02:00 PM

where are rest of the canadian webmasters with merchant accounts/ offshore incorporation?

Come on guys pls advise us
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11-22-2006, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Calico Jack

You're more than welcome. I'm an Australian webmaster so I'm in the same boat as you.
After looking at the above links it seems the cheapest way to get into Europe appears to be the puchase of a U.K Limited company for a few hundred dollars. Jordans & Secretariatservices both offer packages for this.
I haven't made my mind up as to exactly what to do, but Gibralter does look good.
As for billing...I've seen others suggesting: http://www.hughesbilling.com/
Though I can't say I've ever heard of them. However, that doesn't mean they aren't good...just not as well known.
Anyone else have any ideas or solutions? There are plenty of Canadians & Aussies who need these services.

hughes is way too small n slow
merchant account is the answer
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11-22-2006, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by RegUser

hughes is way too small n slow
merchant account is the answer

Steve from Hughes set me up within a week. They emailed me back within a few hours on one Saturday to get things going. They are not the biggest, but being from Canada as well, I had the same problems as you.

I am even British and would have no problem setting up in the UK, but I wanted to keep things in one place where I could look after it. The merchant accounts I talked to over here wanted $50,000 per month. We are far from that, but are talking to Moneris who seem to think it will not be a problem.

The important thing for me was to get back up and going again fast, I was loosing more than I had lost with Paymonde. Hughes did that for me. I am happy with everything they have done for me.
But you are right, they are small, but then I find that sometimes you get a better service.
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11-23-2006, 02:35 AM

a week to set you you is quite slow...some other processors get you going in 48 hours.
Pls do let us update us on moneris when you can.
most merchant accounts seem to hinge on huge volumes.......50k is what everyone seems to be asking for although i am sure there are lots of webmasters on this board who have managed a way around it.
Still waiting for hints from them
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11-23-2006, 02:39 AM

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11-23-2006, 04:45 AM

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11-23-2006, 05:33 AM

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a week to set you you is quite slow...some other processors get you going in 48 hours.

Agreed, but if you had started with them a week ago, you would now be able to process, like we are.

That was the main thing for us, to get something going. Before joining up with Paymonde, I looked into pretty much well everything possible, which is why I ended up with Paymonde. There just isn't anything else for Canadians that is simple, lets you sell memberships and tangibles, and does not require you to be doing the sort of business that I can only hope for. Well not that I could find anyway, and trust me, I asked and searched everywhere.

I will come and find you when we know the outcome of Moneris.

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11-23-2006, 01:33 PM

Okie Jake n others
Here are the results I have after almost 10 days of extensive search, research and red eye nights.
The options for Canadians /Ozzies are either small time processers like Hughesbilling, eurobill, epassporte
or
go get a merchant account.
Incorporation offshore is dicey as almost all big processers demand physical presence in the region of incoporation which obviosly aint gonna happen.

I have dealt with all the small processers and honestly am not too pleased with any! It may be Ok to use them as a stop gap tool but its gonna bust very soon again.

so finally .................merchant account may be the better way.

Can someone please sugegst which company/bank is adult webmaster friendly and wont ask for a monthly volume of 50K ??????????????????
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11-23-2006, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by rewn

i used to use GMBill .. they are top quality ..

GM Bill can work only if you have merchant account from some australian banks
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11-23-2006, 04:55 PM

Anyone in Canada using http://www.eurobill.com ?

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11-23-2006, 05:49 PM

i am using them dready
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11-23-2006, 05:50 PM

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11-23-2006, 06:14 PM

folks trust me
it is my 4th nite...i am scanning all threads on GFY
looks like merchant account is only way out unless incoporation in EU with a physical presence is possible
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11-23-2006, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by RegUser

folks trust me
it is my 4th nite...i am scanning all threads on GFY
looks like merchant account is only way out unless incoporation in EU with a physical presence is possible

What makes you think the cross-border acquiring rules don't apply to merchant accounts?

Unless you can find a Canadian bank that will process high risk Visa transactions for you, you'll have to get a merchant account elsewhere. And in order to do so, you'll have to incorporate wherever you get the merchant account.
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11-24-2006, 02:22 AM

well i was holing to find a canadian institute for merchant acount ....not there has not been response i expected here at gfy
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11-24-2006, 03:21 AM

the state of nevada doesnot require residency to incorp ... it does not require citizenship to incorp.. it doesnt require declaration of officers..; shares announcement nor minutes of meetings. You just need a resident agent they will provide the address and telephone number ... for a fee.

filing off shore as a canadian.. usually sents up a flag with rev canada.. unless your making upper six figures.. its not worth it. why?

if your audited.. and they will say your income is world income, it would be converted from the currency of the current ie euros into cad and you will be required to pay tax on that new sum plus on the interest made on the account and the on conversion profit.

I would you consider speaking to accountants that specialize in this sort of stuff like enerst and young. People here on gfy are smart but you need to hear it from a licensed accountant.. that way.. if your audited.. you will have some weight say .. cpa mr black informed me of.... vs.. yeah the guys on a porn webmaster site said this.

I gave up my offshore stuff years ago ( isle of man) nice tax haven.
but you paid a high premium for their services.. ie.. low interest rates for certain currencies or small sum dep.. ie less than 50k

the nevada corp is a good way to go.. according to us can tax. treaty

as long as you file a tax return on one side of the border.. the other country is fine with it.. ie.. file canada.. its okay with the us.. file usa and canada is good with it.

advantages for filing in the usa.. less tax.. more deductions for a biz.. and far more advantages to take.. and easy access to you account.

most offshore accounts dont sent a month statement .. for multiple reasons..

so be wise.

as for the ozzie.. try vanatu island.. i understand that they are a tax haven.. and offshore friendly. otherwise.. i would say.. the same thing.. nevada.

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11-24-2006, 03:34 AM

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Thanks a for the very nice post.
I paid over 30k in income tax last year alone ro rev canada so i am not going offshore for that reason. I will pay taxes regardless even if my base is on moon.
i won't incarporate in US. Dont like the current state of things there and would rather set up in EU and pay much more.
Again I dont mind paying 20% commision either.......but need rock solid relaible parties. I am tired of small time processors folding up and dissapearing
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11-24-2006, 06:44 PM

Do you have to pay tax in USA if you are canadian and get an USA LLC incorp in Delaware? Or you just pay the Yearly Delaware fee?

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11-24-2006, 06:47 PM

I just heard that GMBill is not taking on anyone new at this time.
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