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  • jact
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2002
    • 9134

    #1

    How important to you is... (BIZ)

    How important is it to you that every click you send to a sponsor matters? How important is it for those hits not being hijacked, sponsors not shaving hits/sales? How important is it that a "glitch" doesn't suddenly stop counting your hits?

    As an affiliate, I'd think we'd want to make every hit count, no?

    What steps would you be willing to take to ensure that you got your fair share?
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  • shekinah
    Confirmed User
    • May 2006
    • 8452

    #2
    It's very important in life these days...that's all

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    • XxXotic
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2002
      • 8500

      #3
      muy importante
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      • 2HousePlague
        CURATOR
        • Jul 2004
        • 14572

        #4
        Of course it matters. Just think how absurd it would be to ask a cattle rancher if every head of cattle matters, or a baker if every cupcake matters, or a fisherman if every lobster matters, or a bricklayer if every brick matters. Because it's all still "so new", online business has been tolerating a great deal of fuzziness that would be considered madness in almost every other kind of business. Clicks and impressions are a webmaster's basic inventory. Be concerned about accuracy and precision. Demand the same commitment from those with whom you do business. There is no gray area. It hurts us if we allow there to be.



        2hp
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        • jact
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2002
          • 9134

          #5
          Originally posted by 2HousePlague
          Of course it matters. Just think how absurd it would be to ask a cattle rancher if every head of cattle matters, or a baker if every cupcake matters, or a fisherman if every lobster matters, or a bricklayer if every brick matters. Because it's all still "so new", online business has been tolerating a great deal of fuzziness that would be considered madness in almost every other kind of business. Clicks and impressions are a webmaster's basic inventory. Be concerned about accuracy and precision. Demand the same commitment from those with whom you do business. There is no gray area. It hurts us if we allow there to be.



          2hp
          So what would you be willing to do to make sure that it mattered? What if it involved a little more work? Would you go the extra mile?
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          • 2HousePlague
            CURATOR
            • Jul 2004
            • 14572

            #6
            Originally posted by jact
            So what would you be willing to do to make sure that it mattered? What if it involved a little more work? Would you go the extra mile?
            Brother, I have gone that extra mile, believe you me.


            2hp
            tada!

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            • jact
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2002
              • 9134

              #7
              Over 100 views, and this few replies? This really has become a surfer board.
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              • sniperwolf
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Mar 2005
                • 17743

                #8
                Originally posted by jact
                Over 100 views, and this few replies? This really has become a surfer board.
                lol.. looks like some people are just tired of typing..
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                • Wiggles
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • May 2004
                  • 14423

                  #9
                  money is important, thats why clicks are therefore important.
                  no sig

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                  • OG LennyT
                    Wall Street Pimp
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 14345

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jact
                    Over 100 views, and this few replies? This really has become a surfer board.

                    see response #2 fucking outsourced posters

                    to answer your question, yes it is very important that all clicks are tracked and I can tell the sponsors that spend more time/money with their backend, tracking my clicks.
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                    • MaddCaz
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 9483

                      #11
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                      • The Sultan Of Smut
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 4325

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jact
                        Over 100 views, and this few replies? This really has become a surfer board.
                        Not surfer, lurker. luuuuuurker

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                        • baddog
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 107089

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jact
                          Over 100 views, and this few replies? This really has become a surfer board.
                          You have to realize that GFY has a lot more lurkers than posters.

                          When I post business threads (ie: the program for sale) it is for the benefit of the lurkers more than the everyday sigwhore.

                          If you were posting a solution, with a way to contact you, you would see the difference.

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                          • Kimo
                            ...
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 11542

                            #14
                            every penny counts
                            ...

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                            • jact
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 9134

                              #15
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              You have to realize that GFY has a lot more lurkers than posters.

                              When I post business threads (ie: the program for sale) it is for the benefit of the lurkers more than the everyday sigwhore.

                              If you were posting a solution, with a way to contact you, you would see the difference.
                              I have a solution, at least, I think I do. I guess we'll see soon enough
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                              • rounders
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 2931

                                #16
                                money is important, every penny counts
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                                • martinsc
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 27043

                                  #17
                                  every hit counts... i try to make sure that every click goes, where it is supposed to go....
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                                  • E$_manager
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Apr 2006
                                    • 13557

                                    #18
                                    It is very imposrtant. and very sad when it is not that way.
                                    Nothing but a letter to the sponsor can come to my mind. May be there is some way? Don't know.
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                                    • Klen
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 32234

                                      #19
                                      Every hit is important.Every hit should bring money.Sometime where is no sales and a lot of clicks is better to concetrate on ppc.

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                                      • marketsmart
                                        HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 20419

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Kimo
                                        every penny counts
                                        yeah it sure does

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                                        • pink_in_the_middle
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 4503

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jact
                                          I have a solution, at least, I think I do. I guess we'll see soon enough
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                                          • jayeff
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2001
                                            • 2944

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jact
                                            So what would you be willing to do to make sure that it mattered? What if it involved a little more work? Would you go the extra mile?
                                            Netflix lost a class-action suit because they were proven to throttle the supposedly unlimited supply of movies to which their subscribers were entitled. So they changed their TOS. They still limit the number of movies which anyone can receive, but now they do it legally.

                                            The point being that the main difference between a mature industry and a new industry such as online porn, is that everything is done more or less openly. Although things may still go on which many may wish did not, this is important in two ways. If I don't know something is happening I don't get to make a choice as to whether or not I am willing to tolerate it. And once the question of honesty arises, it is downright foolish to ignore the possibility that other areas may also be handled dishonestly.

                                            The relevance to your question? That there are two perspectives. The broad one being the value in attempting to push this industry towards growing up. To that end I will post on boards, write to the FTC, use the FBI internet fraud site, and whatever else comes to mind which seems relevant.

                                            In narrow terms, I will not "do" anything, because if someone in this business sets out to cheat you, I don't believe you can actually stop him or even be confident you can identify what he is doing. Instead, I have always had the policy of avoiding sponsors in whom I don't have confidence, whether that lack is due to rumors about honesty or obvious signs of inefficiency.

                                            I learned a long time ago that there are sponsors who - at least from the affiliate point of view - simply don't have it together, whatever the reason. But once you have eliminated those, there are still plenty left and any significant difference in performance between them is primarily down to the affiliate: how he promotes them; how well positioned are his promos; what are his traffic sources; etc.

                                            Occasionally there are temporary exceptions when a new bandwagon gets under way. But otherwise there is so much choice that there just isn't a good reason to work with anyone with whom you are not entirely comfortable. And if you set your sites up the right way, it is very easy to respond to both your instincts and your statistics.

                                            You will not always choose wisely and sometimes you cannot find a way to make a particular sponsor work. But overall that approach works and if more affiliates were critical of their sponsors, the cowboys would either have to clean up their acts or see their businesses go down the toilet.

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                                            • marko13
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2004
                                              • 7512

                                              #23
                                              every hit is potential sale.... so i promote only established sponsors that are more than 2 years in this biz and have no drama threads om gfy...
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                                              • E$_manager
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Apr 2006
                                                • 13557

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jact
                                                I have a solution, at least, I think I do. I guess we'll see soon enough
                                                When? When will we know?
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                                                • baddog
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 107089

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jact
                                                  I have a solution, at least, I think I do. I guess we'll see soon enough
                                                  Well, if you published contact info, and invited serious inquiries you would then see the value of GFY that goes beyond the posts and replies ratios.

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