Lenny2,
From what I understand from a few billing companies the industry average from trial to conversion is around 35%. Most make it seem like it's a little above that. From month to month after that is normally is good but that does depend on the site. Our big dick sites do better than our boob site but that probally is because our boob site is not as large as our big dick sites.
Exits, 60% (or so depending on how the exit pops) will view the exit out of the people that VIEW it 1:1500-2000 will signup. So if a company pushes 500k views to the exit that is around 250 signups daily to other sponsors paying $35-$40 a signup. Around that, it does depend on the exit and how the shit pops.
Numbers are simple, if the paysites arnt trash they can see numbers like:
- Average of 35% or higher, some companies push over 60%.
- Up to 30% will take a cross sale and member sale.
- A low of 5% will take a up sale, videos based on the same niche is a higher %.
- 60% of the visitors see the exit, 1:2000 people that view the exit will signup.
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jimmyf,
I did state that I do think some do, and some don't. That is what "I THINK" It's not a MUST factor in some cases and others it is. I think the most part it's a GREED factor. Why I said look at the sites you are pushing. Same holds for a 65% recurring program. If you think a program might be shaving you then don't use it.
Posting software that shaves doesnt mean shit to me as we don't use that software. Our's is custom coded in house.
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Being a paysite owner and a webmaster that pushes other programs my worry is not a stupid shave. If I don't make the money I want, I leave the damn program. Only time I would care is if it it's like the posted above ass hole. What really worries me is webmaster fraud. Every single week we have people frauding us. Webmaster fraud is getting worse and worse. Those fraud numbers kill our real numbers.
Open a program, bring it to 1000 signups a day and see how many webmasters fraud you. I bet at any time we have 5 people trying to cheat the system. All I can is thank god epoch watches that shit as close as we do.
Again, if you think a program is shaving you, then don't use them. If you think every major webmaster program shaves then I need to talk to Massive Cock to write a theory up on how the gov is in on the deal.
At the end of the day the only thing that maters is the $$$ shave or no shave.