I'm sure Dave has seen all of this. I'm alittle surprised he hasn't atleast come out to try and shut you up a bit KB. Defend himself? Nothing to say perhaps...
In anycase, I like to see the story unfold, but I also like to have all sides of the story. Seems to me this court martial of Dave is getting alot collateral damage to some very unwilling participants.
BTW, anyone have a contact number for riverstyx. I'd like to get that stats program they have and I'm having a hard time getting a hold of that team!
Well sometimes the best answer in a courtmarshial is " No Lo Contendre"
Or maybe he has been thoroughly embarrassed by his actions for being a nosey old man
Anthony, I have been waiting years for the video. Post it already.
I would rather be fat than a gook with a video camera who cant get the video online in 2+ years.
You stupid fat fuck, why would we give you any closure on that day. You sat there, talking in a low voice, so low, Nick had to bend over to hear what your faggot coward ass had to say. "Let's talk about this", you whispered in a little school girl voice. Nick was so disgusted by your apparent lack of testicular fortitude that he just left.
The only thing that saved your ass that day was your own house gook, Greg. Fitting, eh?
I'd rather be a gook with a video of Brad Shaw shitting his pants that he wants to see, than some fat fuck who mouths off on message boards and wishes he had a pair of balls.
Anthony, post the video. GFY would love to see it. Otherwise, shut up you fat gook.
I'd love too Brad, but the parties involved made a decision not too. You can always ask the other holders. We'd all rather watch you squirm like a little girl, exactly the same way you are now.
Wish Serge and Nick could see it, but they are on vacation.
Anthony, you have no video. And the video camera you had that gay caught something totally different than your wigger gook mouth is spouting off about. That is why the video has never been posted.
At this point, I could really care a less. You are still a useless gook with a rickshaw selling illegal meds online, who used to work for one of the top 10 spammers of all time.
Anthony, you have no video. And the video camera you had that gay caught something totally different than your wigger gook mouth is spouting off about. That is why the video has never been posted.
At this point, I could really care a less. You are still a useless gook with a rickshaw selling illegal meds online, who used to work for one of the top 10 spammers of all time.
Look at you do your spin control.
Blah Blah Blah.
You really want to see something that you claim really doesn't exist, don't you now?
As always, my invite for you to repeat everything you say in this thread to my face is open.
To this day, you have *never* took me up on.
Nite Brad. Sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.
Yeah I guess you are right dickbreath
WHY WOULD ANYONE WNAT TO GET MORE EXPOSURE TO THEIR SITE HIRING A PERSON LIKE ME?
So fucking what. You're a liability to any company you work for. You can't hold a job because of your mouth, you can't even let the past rest without digging up old drama with people you claim to be "buds" with, trouble follows you and with this thread being proof, you talk WAY too openly about other people's affairs that you worked for in the past. That makes you non bondable IMHO.
The positives are far outweighed by the negatives. If someone is able to take the risks of your negatives, then all the pwoer to them, they should hire you, but you attract more flies with sugar than with vinegar. i firmly believe in that.
Regardless of attention you get, it's not always good.
Anyways, that's my opinion. No need to start name calling.
You know nothing
MAybe I can have someone with a college degree explain shell companies for you-
2 House Plague where are you?
I have a college degree from one of the finest finance schools in the country, and I know shell corporations also. He makes a very valid point...
The company is operating at a loss, an increasing loss as time goes on. The stock does very little volume, its very illiquid. A month ago, the stock was trading at 8 cents, now its a 6.3 cents, up 15% today (which means its still down ~20% from a few weeks ago), but to be perfectly honest, those prices dont mean anything.. the stock is really worth close to zero because as I said above, it barely does any volume. Its up 15% on a whopping $2500 worth of volume. Yesterday it did 2000 shares for volume or about a little bit over $100 worth of volume.
They got their capital, and unless someone can turn their paysites around, in addition to actually creating a market for their shares, the stock is worth nothing. So right now as i see it.. the stock is worth next to nothing.
I have a college degree from one of the finest finance schools in the country, and I know shell corporations also. He makes a very valid point...
The company is operating at a loss, an increasing loss as time goes on. The stock does very little volume, its very illiquid. A month ago, the stock was trading at 8 cents, now its a 6.3 cents, up 15% today (which means its still down ~20% from a few weeks ago), but to be perfectly honest, those prices dont mean anything.. the stock is really worth close to zero because as I said above, it barely does any volume. Its up 15% on a whopping $2500 worth of volume. Yesterday it did 2000 shares for volume or about a little bit over $100 worth of volume.
They got their capital, and unless someone can turn their paysites around, in addition to actually creating a market for their shares, the stock is worth nothing. So right now as i see it.. the stock is worth next to nothing.
(POSTED BY MY BROTHER RAY VEGA YESTERDAY)
This has been address several times. I'll go over it again just to make it clear for those with any doubts.
Mobbucks is not public. Some of the funding comes from 110 mediagroup, inc which I am the founder/CEO and which is public. 110 mediagroup has a vested interest in Mobbucks, but the stock price or financials of mobbucks are not directly related to OTEN.
The decreases in stock price are a direct result of dilution caused by stock issuances for acquisitions of properties such as web1000. When you issue 400,ooo shares to buy a company the stock price (especially on a tightly held company like oten, tends to decline). The apparent losses in revenue are not true losses either, if you pay $500K in stock it show as a $500K loss even though the company just issued stock, not paid out cash...etc.
110 media allows us to use paper to buy companies and pay people etc. using equity, but in no way directly reflects the earnings or stability of mobbucks (which is also a company under a subsidiary called Jade entertainment)
No worries associating the two would would be like not buying windows based software made by third party companies because microsoft stock takes a dive...they are not related in any way other than 110mediagroup invests in mobbucks, and assists in acquisitions.
This has been address several times. I'll go over it again just to make it clear for those with any doubts.
Mobbucks is not public. Some of the funding comes from 110 mediagroup, inc which I am the founder/CEO and which is public. 110 mediagroup has a vested interest in Mobbucks, but the stock price or financials of mobbucks are not directly related to OTEN.
The decreases in stock price are a direct result of dilution caused by stock issuances for acquisitions of properties such as web1000. When you issue 400,ooo shares to buy a company the stock price (especially on a tightly held company like oten, tends to decline). The apparent losses in revenue are not true losses either, if you pay $500K in stock it show as a $500K loss even though the company just issued stock, not paid out cash...etc.
110 media allows us to use paper to buy companies and pay people etc. using equity, but in no way directly reflects the earnings or stability of mobbucks (which is also a company under a subsidiary called Jade entertainment)
No worries associating the two would would be like not buying windows based software made by third party companies because microsoft stock takes a dive...they are not related in any way other than 110mediagroup invests in mobbucks, and assists in acquisitions.
Good clarification. Anyone who could research OTEN would know, all one would have to do is compare the "sit down" page of MobBucks, to the "Major Holders" page on Yahoo Finance as far as the vested interest goes.
But there is a reason OTEN.OB is associated with MobBucks. It was posted somewhere by either KB or one of you guys.
[QUOTE=kBizzle]After signing an agreement with JMM and Zimm of WEG Cash she wss to do a "gangbang type" of a site where she would live in a house and get gang raped by a bunch of dudes- sound like fun?
KB,
I remember the meeting you are referring to in Vegas as I was there. There were 4 of us and oddly enough you weren't one of them. Slang all of the drama you like it's good for entertainment value, but don't make wild accusations about things you know nothing about. The subject of the discussion at that meeting was of a private, business nature. No contract was ever signed with the individual you are referring to so the next time you want to lob bulls#!t grenades at people you might want to get your facts straight first. Your issues are your issues, not ours. In other words produce a contract or documents describing what you have suggested here or retract your statement.
You contend you are a man of principle, honor and integrity, let?s see you prove it by doing the right thing here. Retract this ridiculous accusation and leave us out of your personal battles?
So fucking what. You're a liability to any company you work for. You can't hold a job because of your mouth, you can't even let the past rest without digging up old drama with people you claim to be "buds" with, trouble follows you and with this thread being proof, you talk WAY too openly about other people's affairs that you worked for in the past. That makes you non bondable IMHO.
The positives are far outweighed by the negatives. If someone is able to take the risks of your negatives, then all the pwoer to them, they should hire you, but you attract more flies with sugar than with vinegar. i firmly believe in that.
Regardless of attention you get, it's not always good.
Anyways, that's my opinion. No need to start name calling.
Listen I respect smoe of your points-but I run my own business I am not a company employee. I am my own LIABILTY
The companies I represent are respectable companies who wish to get more exposure and 5,000 views in this thread is proof of just that.
Not too mention the media I do-
Sorry about the dickbreath comment-
I haven't slept in 24 hours from this Stern thing this morning-
the thing where I got SEXSEARCH three plugs...
(cough cough)
I just do what I do-
and it works for me and for some of my clients
I'll be the first to admit I have had some companies that don't fit well with what I do-
However I consult- I make no guarantees- and I do get a lot of great results for people.
Someday when you need some mainstream press- or want to sell your company-
Good clarification. Anyone who could research OTEN would know, all one would have to do is compare the "sit down" page of MobBucks, to the "Major Holders" page on Yahoo Finance as far as the vested interest goes.
But there is a reason OTEN.OB is associated with MobBucks. It was posted somewhere by either KB or one of you guys.
Oten is one of a few public companies that we own. so that is the connection.
After signing an agreement with JMM and Zimm of WEG Cash she wss to do a "gangbang type" of a site where she would live in a house and get gang raped by a bunch of dudes- sound like fun?
KB,
I remember the meeting you are referring to in Vegas as I was there. There were 4 of us and oddly enough you weren't one of them. Slang all of the drama you like it's good for entertainment value, but don't make wild accusations about things you know nothing about. The subject of the discussion at that meeting was of a private, business nature. No contract was ever signed with the individual you are referring to so the next time you want to lob bulls#!t grenades at people you might want to get your facts straight first. Your issues are your issues, not ours. In other words produce a contract or documents describing what you have suggested here or retract your statement.
You contend you are a man of principle, honor and integrity, let?s see you prove it by doing the right thing here. Retract this ridiculous accusation and leave us out of your personal battles?
It was told to me BY Alie ( holly miles) that she had agreed to be part of your scenario and that she had signed an agreement with Jeff
I know the venture never happened, mostly because she got bakc with me for a while afterwards.
She wanted nothing to do with Jeff or WEG after the entire deal went down in Vegas after she suffered a nervous breakdown.
She is fine now, and she has got her life together. Like I told JMM earlier in a private conversation, it's water under the bridge but I wanted to tell my story to the fullest extent to demonstrate that I indeed knew more about what was going on than you all thought.
I have no beef ith WEG - they are a fine company to send your traffic to and have been around for a long time.
I didn't wish to get your company involved in this, I was just looking over notes that I had made in regards to this case surrounding the hacking of my computer-
I apologize if this thread reflected negatively upon you , it shouldn't have.
It was told to me BY Alie ( holly miles) that she had agreed to be part of your scenario and that she had signed an agreement with Jeff
I know the venture never happened, mostly because she got bakc with me for a while afterwards.
She wanted nothing to do with Jeff or WEG after the entire deal went down in Vegas after she suffered a nervous breakdown.
She is fine now, and she has got her life together. Like I told JMM earlier in a private conversation, it's water under the bridge but I wanted to tell my story to the fullest extent to demonstrate that I indeed knew more about what was going on than you all thought.
I have no beef ith WEG - they are a fine company to send your traffic to and have been around for a long time.
I didn't wish to get your company involved in this, I was just looking over notes that I had made in regards to this case surrounding the hacking of my computer-
I apologize if this thread reflected negatively upon you , it shouldn't have.
You are correct, it doesn't reflect on poorly on WEG. It doesn't reflect well on you though since my statement is 100% correct and verifiable. We had no contract with Jeff or any talent to produce a site as Jeff has already pointed out. So no deal went down in Vegas. A private business meeting took place. Frankly we would never do business with anyone that made the subject of a private meeting public regardless of whether they accurately represented the nature of those discussions or not. You were not given the accurate details of the discussions by an individual that was obviously having issues at the time. The suggestion that we would enter into an inappropriate business agreement with an individual not capable of making a sound decision is what I take issue with. We take our business very seriously and don't appreciate people throwing our name around along with unsubstantiated rumors. Thank you for your semi-retraction.
P.S. On a personal note I'm pleased to hear she's gotten her shit together.
You are correct, it doesn't reflect on poorly on WEG. It doesn't reflect well on you though since my statement is 100% correct and verifiable. We had no contract with Jeff or any talent to produce a site as Jeff has already pointed out. So no deal went down in Vegas. A private business meeting took place. Frankly we would never do business with anyone that made the subject of a private meeting public regardless of whether they accurately represented the nature of those discussions or not. You were not given the accurate details of the discussions by an individual that was obviously having issues at the time. The suggestion that we would enter into an inappropriate business agreement with an individual not capable of making a sound decision is what I take issue with. We take our business very seriously and don't appreciate people throwing our name around along with unsubstantiated rumors. Thank you for your semi-retraction.
P.S. On a personal note I'm pleased to hear she's gotten her shit together.
You did however have a meeting in regards to having her in a house being the "house whore"
Jeff told me that- he also said " she was so fucked up" but that was a long time ago
and I am not revisiting it.
Just clarifying my statement for you so you can understand who said what-
Loryn (3:16 PM):
I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before
Loryn (3:16 PM):
I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before
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