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  • Chimmy
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2005
    • 469
    #1

    Search Engine Experts - How is this done?

    Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

    Try it for yourself.
    www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
    Number 1 for springbreak babes

    www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
    Number 1 for free mpg teen

    and so on.

    I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

    Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?
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    • Alex
      So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
      • Jun 2004
      • 10963
      #2
      You have showed two samples.

      Which arent big searched terms.
      Care about me?
      Who?
      Me!
      Who?

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        • sean416
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2004
          • 3633
          #3
          why do you want to know how they do it?

          ServerProvider.com

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            • Pornwolf
              Drunk and Unruly
              • Jan 2002
              • 22712
              #4
              I'd like to know how to fuck Catherine Zeta Jones. Michael Douglass is doing it so it must be possible.
              I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

              Webair, bitches.

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                • Shoehorn!
                  Die With Your Boots On
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 22872
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Pornwolf
                  I'd like to know how to fuck Catherine Zeta Jones. Michael Douglass is doing it so it must be possible.

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                    • wm_cibi
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 663
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Chimmy
                      Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

                      Try it for yourself.
                      www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
                      Number 1 for springbreak babes

                      www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
                      Number 1 for free mpg teen

                      and so on.

                      I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

                      Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?
                      he uses his own program... he is known spammer...

                      M
                      ICQ: 82-100-033

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                        • Chimmy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 469
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Alex
                          You have showed two samples.

                          Which arent big searched terms.
                          Do a search on his site in google.

                          There are 132,000 pages indexed in google.

                          And why do I want to know how they do it? Simple. I too depend a great deal on SEO for my traffic. This means studying ALL types of pages that are receiving top rankings...whether they use black hat or white hat.

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                            • FilthyRob
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6741
                              #8
                              That's hardcore search engine spamming. If the pages aren't related to the search string at all, I would imagine getting him banned would be easy. In a perfect world it would be.
                              AKA - Clubsexy

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                                • willysbirthday
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 436
                                  #9
                                  That domain will get flagged... Notice that there is no "cached version" of the page... Also notice that the text google has spidered and associated with the page is not actually there when you click in
                                  oOooooooOOo

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                                    • Manowar
                                      jellyfish  
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 71528
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                      I'd like to know how to fuck Catherine Zeta Jones. Michael Douglass is doing it so it must be possible.

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                                        • kinetic
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 397
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                          I'd like to know how to fuck Catherine Zeta Jones. Michael Douglass is doing it so it must be possible.

                                          good one!

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                                            • Trax
                                              [----------------------]
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 14486
                                              #12
                                              he's doing a good job
                                              whoever it is

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                                                • johndoebob
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 3405
                                                  #13
                                                  Cloaking, if you want a tool that does it check out Phantom Cloaker

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                                                    • teksonline
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                      • 2904
                                                      #14
                                                      What's funny is all his pages dont have that "cached" feature in google like all the other terms.... Why is that? and what determines if you have that cached page feature in google

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                                                        • teksonline
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                          • 2904
                                                          #15
                                                          I viewed the source, it's just a TGP page, probably when he notices a term to get #1, he stops updating that tgp page and then cloaks it...

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                                                            • johndoebob
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 3405
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by teksonline
                                                              What's funny is all his pages dont have that "cached" feature in google like all the other terms.... Why is that? and what determines if you have that cached page feature in google
                                                              Through a line of code you can prevent caching.

                                                              Cloaking = One page keyword filled for google and one page for the user.

                                                              Phantom Cloaker can do all those things automated for you.

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                                                                • teksonline
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                  • 2904
                                                                  #17
                                                                  And will eventually lead to shitcanning your domain, please boys and girls use throw-aways I guarantee you your domain will be shitlisted, they only last a few days, i browse and monitor this stuff daily, they DO NOT last... and not recommended strategy for anyone getting into se stuff.

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                                                                    • johndoebob
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 3405
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by teksonline
                                                                      And will eventually lead to shitcanning your domain, please boys and girls use throw-aways I guarantee you your domain will be shitlisted, they only last a few days, i browse and monitor this stuff daily, they DO NOT last... and not recommended strategy for anyone getting into se stuff.
                                                                      It's fast money, that's all and as long as the cloaking - actual content correlation doesn't get too irrelevant you won't get problems that fast.

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                                                                        • Trax
                                                                          [----------------------]
                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                          • 14486
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by teksonline
                                                                          And will eventually lead to shitcanning your domain, please boys and girls use throw-aways I guarantee you your domain will be shitlisted, they only last a few days, i browse and monitor this stuff daily, they DO NOT last... and not recommended strategy for anyone getting into se stuff.
                                                                          you don't even know how to disable cache on a page and give us search engine advice??
                                                                          you gotto be kidding

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                                                                            • AmateurFlix
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                              • 7762
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by johndoebob
                                                                              Phantom Cloaker can do all those things automated for you.
                                                                              How many pages need to be made w/ that program to show results? I had it make up several hundred cloacked pages but the only page that ever got indexed was the legit front page. After a week or two I removed all the cloaked pages since the legitimate one was doing well. I'd hate to think I wasted $100+ on that program though.

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                                                                                • johndoebob
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                  • 3405
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by AmateurFlix
                                                                                  How many pages need to be made w/ that program to show results? I had it make up several hundred cloacked pages but the only page that ever got indexed was the legit front page. After a week or two I removed all the cloaked pages since the legitimate one was doing well. I'd hate to think I wasted $100+ on that program though.
                                                                                  Without good inbound links not much will be indexed of course.

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                                                                                    • AmateurFlix
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                      • 7762
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by johndoebob
                                                                                      Without good inbound links not much will be indexed of course.
                                                                                      That makes sense; but what should be linked, just the front page or links to all the cloaked pages it generates? I had a few sites linking to the front page in this instance, one PR4 site mostly PR1-2, but nothing to the cloaked pages.

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                                                                                        • Dalai lama
                                                                                          Strength and Honor
                                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                                          • 16540
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Chimmy
                                                                                          Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

                                                                                          Try it for yourself.
                                                                                          www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
                                                                                          Number 1 for springbreak babes

                                                                                          www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
                                                                                          Number 1 for free mpg teen

                                                                                          and so on.

                                                                                          I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

                                                                                          Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?
                                                                                          I noticed something similair on dutch terms. +- 10 different domains promoting Webcams, they all get the top spots.

                                                                                          A program you can trust.
                                                                                          Gallerybooster Run multiply TGPs of 1 script

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                                                                                            • taibo
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • May 2005
                                                                                              • 3720
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Chimmy
                                                                                              Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

                                                                                              Try it for yourself.
                                                                                              www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
                                                                                              Number 1 for springbreak babes

                                                                                              www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
                                                                                              Number 1 for free mpg teen

                                                                                              and so on.

                                                                                              I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

                                                                                              Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?
                                                                                              didnt work for me.

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                                                                                                • AdultNex
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                  • 8985
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Here's the real uncloaked page: http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%...Yahoo%21+Slurp

                                                                                                  I finally figured out how they're doing it, but I can't say a thing.

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                                                                                                    • johndoebob
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                                      • 3405
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by AmateurFlix
                                                                                                      That makes sense; but what should be linked, just the front page or links to all the cloaked pages it generates? I had a few sites linking to the front page in this instance, one PR4 site mostly PR1-2, but nothing to the cloaked pages.
                                                                                                      Index or sitemap, if the PR is strong enough and the site you're linking from gets spidered daily it all shouldn't be a problem. The amount of sites shown in the google index is just limited if the site itself doesn't have a PR at 6 or above.

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                                                                                                        • sean416
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                          • 3633
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by AdultNex
                                                                                                          I finally figured out how they're doing it, but I can't say a thing.

                                                                                                          you're so elite

                                                                                                          ServerProvider.com

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                                                                                                            • Crypt
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                                                              • 2225
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Chimmy
                                                                                                              Try almost any porn search in google and you will get back a page for the domain http://www.songlyrics4me.com.

                                                                                                              Try it for yourself.
                                                                                                              www.songlyrics4me.com/springbreak_babes.htm
                                                                                                              Number 1 for springbreak babes

                                                                                                              www.songlyrics4me.com/free_mpg_teen.htm
                                                                                                              Number 1 for free mpg teen

                                                                                                              and so on.

                                                                                                              I've tried various spider simulators to see what their real pages look like, but none of them show the real code. So I assume that they are using a server side cloaking script.

                                                                                                              Anyone recognize the exact program they are using?
                                                                                                              ZZZzzZZzzZZZzzZZZ

                                                                                                              Modify your browser user agent for Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)

                                                                                                              You will see the real pages

                                                                                                              Not really hard to figure out and see the real setup.

                                                                                                              You are so elite

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                                                                                                                • AdultNex
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                  • 8985
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sean416
                                                                                                                  you're so elite


                                                                                                                  8chars-im-an-elite-sem

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                                                                                                                    • Chimmy
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                      • 469
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Just an update. I too figured it out shortly after I posted this thread. I changed my user-agent to googlebot in Firefly, and could easily see the real pages. And I found the software that they were using to do both the cloaking and the doorway page -fantomaster. A pricey little piece of software at over $1,000.

                                                                                                                      Interesting development....I have noticed songlyrics4free.com pages coming up for numerous search terms for about 4 months. Today, every single page is gone from google. And so are the pages from another of their domains, tonsoflyrics.com. Doing a site: or link: search brings up zero. Hmmmm...do we have a google spy in our midst?

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                                                                                                                        • VeriSexy
                                                                                                                          Join The Royal Family
                                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                          • 25463
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Crypt
                                                                                                                          ZZZzzZZzzZZZzzZZZ

                                                                                                                          Modify your browser user agent for Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)

                                                                                                                          You will see the real pages

                                                                                                                          Not really hard to figure out and see the real setup.

                                                                                                                          You are so elite

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