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  • bigdog
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 6964

    #51
    Originally posted by Mutt
    DRM does not work - it pisses members off in a big way.
    If the surfer really enjoys the content, does it really matter if it is drm or not? I think drm videos should all play after the membership is canceled, just use it as a tool to keep your content from being whored out from surfers trading your movies

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    • xxxjay
      Tube groupie.
      • Aug 2002
      • 13482

      #52
      Here is the only scenerio I would use DRM:

      1. Right now you can watch our videos in the explorer window.
      2. Or you can download them to your local disc.

      Only the downloaded videos would be DRMed and that is not even done yet. That would defiently put a dent in the people that join for a trial, download everything, and the cancel.

      It's a s simple as that.
      http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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      • xxxjay
        Tube groupie.
        • Aug 2002
        • 13482

        #53
        Originally posted by bigdog
        intresting point about the limited trials, but it's not like the webmaster who sends you the trial in the first place is going to get credit if the surfer decides to join up later
        Yeah, it's just my opinion but if you are getting a good 40% - 50% trial to full (which I would love to have) then there are more people that are actually unsatisfied and will never come back. I know I would be pissed.

        On the other hand, Chris has shown me wher the same surfer has joined 18 times under the same affiliate for trials. What's even funnier is the guy forgot his password! hahaha

        Its not like you can send the mafia over their house and make them stay, although I wish you could.
        http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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        • HollywoodChris
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2003
          • 1282

          #54
          Originally posted by xxxjay
          Yeah, it's just my opinion but if you are getting a good 40% - 50% trial to full (which I would love to have) then there are more people that are actually unsatisfied and will never come back. I know I would be pissed.

          On the other hand, Chris has shown me wher the same surfer has joined 18 times under the same affiliate for trials. What's even funnier is the guy forgot his password! hahaha

          Its not like you can send the mafia over their house and make them stay, although I wish you could.

          haha, for sure.. its not unlikely to have a member join 10 times because they want to see the updates....But only for 1 day... Or join again to stay on the trial status. Cheap way out...

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          • american pervert
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2002
            • 6840

            #55
            I hope others out there are taking notes....
            I can resist everything except temptation

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            • bigdog
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 6964

              #56
              Originally posted by xxxjay
              Here is the only scenerio I would use DRM:

              1. Right now you can watch our videos in the explorer window.
              2. Or you can download them to your local disc.

              Only the downloaded videos would be DRMed and that is not even done yet. That would defiently put a dent in the people that join for a trial, download everything, and the cancel.

              It's a s simple as that.
              so in your setup once the surfer would cancel their membership the videos would stop working?

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              • Adam X
                Now Giving 1 Fuck Daily
                • Apr 2002
                • 2493

                #57
                yeah..

                yeah how do you effectively put a time limit on content? because if a guy joins for 30 days, you don't want downloadables to go nill after 3 days..

                it'd have to be a script that can tell how long his membership is for, then give him dynamic drm files..

                anyone already selling a script like this? doubt it..

                Playerbucks... less than a week away.


                -A
                Cronfund - Buy CRON now and earn 4% plus coin value. The best of DEFI!

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                • bigdog
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 6964

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Porndude
                  yeah how do you effectively put a time limit on content? because if a guy joins for 30 days, you don't want downloadables to go nill after 3 days..

                  it'd have to be a script that can tell how long his membership is for, then give him dynamic drm files..

                  anyone already selling a script like this? doubt it..

                  Playerbucks... less than a week away.


                  -A
                  it's built into the drm, you can specify how long the person can play the video for. I think having the videos stop working after the membership expires is kind of fucked up but if it makes you more money who cares
                  Last edited by bigdog; 06-28-2005, 03:57 PM.

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                  • HollywoodChris
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1282

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Porndude
                    yeah how do you effectively put a time limit on content? because if a guy joins for 30 days, you don't want downloadables to go nill after 3 days..

                    it'd have to be a script that can tell how long his membership is for, then give him dynamic drm files..

                    anyone already selling a script like this? doubt it..

                    Playerbucks... less than a week away.


                    -A
                    Porndude,
                    I believe there was one like that written by a hosting company but only for their cliants.

                    Hey, Youre in Hollywood? Ca or FL?

                    -Chris

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                    • xxxjay
                      Tube groupie.
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 13482

                      #60
                      Originally posted by bigdog
                      so in your setup once the surfer would cancel their membership the videos would stop working?
                      Yep, it's like a movie. You go to the theatre, you see the movie, but you can't take it with you. Also, as you pointed out, it will keep you content off file swapping networks and newgroups.
                      http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                      • bigdog
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 6964

                        #61
                        Originally posted by xxxjay
                        Yep, it's like a movie. You go to the theatre, you see the movie, but you can't take it with you. Also, as you pointed out, it will keep you content off file swapping networks and newgroups.
                        Very good point will only work though i think if you really have some unique content that the surfer just loves. Some companies have dropped drm and none have really explained why. When you look at drm it is no different then the sites that only allow you to stream their videos like topbucks sites.
                        Last edited by bigdog; 06-28-2005, 06:59 PM.

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                        • Pornwolf
                          Drunk and Unruly
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 22712

                          #62
                          With the limited trial option catching steam over the last couple of years the wow factor of DRM has dissapated. A lot of big companies are streaming their vids more than offering downloads anyway.
                          I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                          Webair, bitches.

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                          • xxxjay
                            Tube groupie.
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13482

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Pornwolf
                            With the limited trial option catching steam over the last couple of years the wow factor of DRM has dissapated. A lot of big companies are streaming their vids more than offering downloads anyway.
                            Some guys just love to have the videos downloaded already, so I like to leave that option open. I would say that I would have 2 copies for each - I to play in the stream without DRM and a DRM'ed one for download.

                            I noticed when I was reviewing the Reality Cash sites for Jays that even when you were watching the stream -- you still had to keep tying in your password. I can't imagine how frustrating that would get to a guy who is trying to krank one out.

                            Only making the downloadable stuff DRM'ed would give me a HUGE laugh at the asshole surfer that just joined your site, sat there downloading till they got carpal tunnel syndrome, quits, and goes to watch the videos and none will play...now that would be an awesome sight.
                            http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                            • bigdog
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 6964

                              #64
                              Originally posted by xxxjay
                              Some guys just love to have the videos downloaded already, so I like to leave that option open. I would say that I would have 2 copies for each - I to play in the stream without DRM and a DRM'ed one for download.

                              I noticed when I was reviewing the Reality Cash sites for Jays that even when you were watching the stream -- you still had to keep tying in your password. I can't imagine how frustrating that would get to a guy who is trying to krank one out.

                              Only making the downloadable stuff DRM'ed would give me a HUGE laugh at the asshole surfer that just joined your site, sat there downloading till they got carpal tunnel syndrome, quits, and goes to watch the videos and none will play...now that would be an awesome sight.
                              also good for mac users since drm doesn't work for them, the stream will

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                              • xxxjay
                                Tube groupie.
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13482

                                #65
                                Originally posted by bigdog
                                also good for mac users since drm doesn't work for them, the stream will
                                Good point.
                                http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                • testa
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 30

                                  #66
                                  bumping!!!
                                  I'd rather be buttfucking your wife

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