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You could give it a try, she doesn´t look to bad at all
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She may as well be Calista Flockhart...Originally posted by chaseIt doesn't matter if YOU think she's fat, with a steady stream of super-slim porn girl images running through your head. The BBW market will sneer at this girl and tell her to go eat a cheeseburger because they like FAT women.
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Originally posted by bhutocracy
Seriously, that's true.
Marketing an average sized woman with big tits as a BBW is like marketing a BBW to gay men.
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Would prolly do well on a MILF site, rather than a single girl site IMHO. Hate those shitty tatoos but otther than that shes a hottie
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Turn her into a hardcore trailor trash tramp.. Uh. Yeah. Just build the site.
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She is a mother, she had a baby 8 month ago so that wouldnt be a bad ideaOriginally posted by bjjbWould prolly do well on a MILF site, rather than a single girl site IMHO. Hate those shitty tatoos but otther than that shes a hottieComment
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Originally posted by chaseOnce again-she is NOT a bbw....
BBW does NOT MEAN big busted woman!
Maybe I should just shut up and let you guys go on mismarketing so I get the sales for myself, lol.
Putting this girl up as a BBW makes about as much sense as putting Tiffany Teen up as a housewife. Seriously.
It doesn't matter if YOU think she's fat, with a steady stream of super-slim porn girl images running through your head. The BBW market will sneer at this girl and tell her to go eat a cheeseburger because they like FAT women.
That's it for today's lesson.
Do you guys actual make a living in this industry or is mom and dads basement still pretty cozy for ya? The girl is big... shes not fat, shes big, hense the term ""BBW". Big, Beautiful, Women. Not FBW, BBW. She is NOT and I repeat NOT NOT NOT, your typical single girl model that we see here every day. Am I right or wrong? As for what I can afford you moron... I make more shooting single girl sites in a month then you make all year or maybe even two years. So, unless you are billing over 50k a month shooting the very thing you say I know nothing about then shut the fuck up.
Petes girl, cute or not could not compete in the single girl market that is considered the industry standard here. Show me a single girl site as defind her on gfy where the girl is over 125lbs. You can't. She would be much better served by putting her into the BBW market or big tit market, but to open a signle girl site, without proper niche placement would be very unwise for this girl.
These is a single girl model by definition
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IF she's not willing to do any hardcore at all you might find it a hard sellComment
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She doesn't seem comfortable.AVPS
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Look, asshole, if you want me to be a rude bitch, I'll be happy to. Otherwise, we can have a debate without being nasty, or at least I can.Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
I know this niche, I live it and breathe it, and I'm telling you if you market that girl as a bbw-which is FAT girls, you will fall smack on your face. Do you have ANY experience in BBW sites? It doesn't matter what YOU think, or what I think, it matters what the surfer thinks. I hang out on a board of FAs (fat admirers-the people who like bbws), and with Pete's permission, I'd be happy to ask them what they think of her. I'll bet you $1000 that they all say, very cute, but too thin. Put your money where your mouth is, high roller?Need Hosting? Reality Check Network services me purrrfectly!Comment
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i don't think so...she's married and she'll only do g/g? just wait and see what happens with that...from the looks of her bedroom and the "value" pack stuffed animals, she's not strong enough in character to make money for you.
i think if you take the girl out of the trailer park...well, hmmm, i'm torn. i like her boobies, but the rest just screams trash to me. maybe a site like trailertammy.com?
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You'd better stick to shooting teen, you don't know shit about anything else and are just making yourself look like an ass.Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
Yes she's bigger than normal teen single girl sites. Thank you fucking capt. obvious.. does that make her BBW? jesus christ hell no. Not anymore than it makes her a fucking gay midget.Comment
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It's always about the model's attitude and personality throughout the site that matters. Any lady can sell.Make Levees, Not WarComment
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No one's saying she's a typical single girl, or that she's going to compete aginst tawneestone.com or a myriad of other girls in their early 20's.. just that she's not a BBW as emphatically as you so wrongly suggest, in fact I mainly protest because you appear as though you should fucking know better as someone at least vaguely associated with content production and not some beer money kid.
How about a juxtaposition thats actually fucking relevant:
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just wait.. i'll try to be even clearer.
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Thank you very much Tassy thats on of the best answer so farOriginally posted by tASSyi don't think so...she's married and she'll only do g/g? just wait and see what happens with that...from the looks of her bedroom and the "value" pack stuffed animals, she's not strong enough in character to make money for you.
i think if you take the girl out of the trailer park...well, hmmm, i'm torn. i like her boobies, but the rest just screams trash to me. maybe a site like trailertammy.com?
Thank you very much Tassy thats on of the best answer so farLast edited by Pete-KT; 06-28-2005, 11:07 AM.Comment
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yep.. as a fairly average amateur (yes, yes, on the thick side) she at least needs some kind of hook.Originally posted by tASSyi don't think so...she's married and she'll only do g/g? just wait and see what happens with that...from the looks of her bedroom and the "value" pack stuffed animals, she's not strong enough in character to make money for you.
i think if you take the girl out of the trailer park...well, hmmm, i'm torn. i like her boobies, but the rest just screams trash to me. maybe a site like trailertammy.com?Comment
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Originally posted by bhutocracyjust wait.. i'll try to be even clearer.
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To you maybe, not to everybodyOriginally posted by Shooting_ManicDo you guys actual make a living in this industry or is mom and dads basement still pretty cozy for ya? The girl is big... shes not fat, shes big, hense the term ""BBW". Big, Beautiful, Women. Not FBW, BBW. She is NOT and I repeat NOT NOT NOT, your typical single girl model that we see here every day. Am I right or wrong? As for what I can afford you moron... I make more shooting single girl sites in a month then you make all year or maybe even two years. So, unless you are billing over 50k a month shooting the very thing you say I know nothing about then shut the fuck up.
Petes girl, cute or not could not compete in the single girl market that is considered the industry standard here. Show me a single girl site as defind her on gfy where the girl is over 125lbs. You can't. She would be much better served by putting her into the BBW market or big tit market, but to open a signle girl site, without proper niche placement would be very unwise for this girl.
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To be honest - no. When I think "single girl site" I am thinking extra hot and body toned, and she is neither. As stated, everything can sell but as a single girl site doing solo or g/g only I just can't see it.I have no signatureComment
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Nope...She's not a leading lady...more like an extra. Not bad looking thoICQ: 150-803-430
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not that i'm an expert in those things...
no, no and, ehhhh, no.
never - either to fat to be hot or too thin to be bbw - her breasts are big but saggy. her face is not cute - it's just white trailer trash. maybe if she does quadruple penetration - send her over to www.depraveddollars.com - they take care of her.
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BBW its fat..she is not fat, but she is defenetly a plumper.
So this is a right nishe for her "plumbers".
I stil dont think she will do very well as a single girl site.
But who knows...maybe on plumpers trafficeverything will be just fine.Comment
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Originally posted by chase
Make it 10,000 or shut the fuck up.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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can a girl have a solo site if Anabolic would reject her for a 20 man interracial gangbang?Comment
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All I can say it this thread made me truly understand why 85% of the guys that post on this board don't have two dimes to rub together.
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I don't have ten thousand, but I'd still make the bet because I am THAT positive.Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
Already got a few responses from some people I'm chatting with and the consensus is: "I consider that Average Amature. Definately wouldn't consider that BBW..." and that's a direct quote.
Keep on trying to fit a square peg in a circle hole if you want buddy-you're the one who looks like an idiot here, not me.
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In my unprofessional opinion, in order for a girl to make it in a single girl amateur site, she has to have something about her that appeals to the average male, whether it be great tits, mesmerising eyes, a tight little body, willingness to do exteme sex acts, or simply (maybe especially) the fantasy that the surfer could run into her on the street and she would actually give him the time of day. Girls trying to be the star of their own site have to possess a certain quality that will make enough men fantasize about her (even if it's just attitude), and in my opinion, this girl does not have a single quality that will make more than possibly a small handful of men pull out their credit cards, let alone be willing to pay month after month.See what's new at
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Almost ironic given you don't know the difference between a BBW and some average amateur backyard bitch slightly-overweight-for-normal-porn girl and the cornerstone of internet marketing is knowing your niche.Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
It's also hilarious your only defense is you have money. Grow up. I have it too. It doesn't make me any more right. Learn a bit about a niche before you go balls out and "definately" say something. And learn to admit you're wrong when you've been caught saying something flippant for whatever reason (sig spots, showing off your own content etc). It's not that hard.. baseless attacks on those that have shown you up only make them fight harder.
Anyways seeing as you like fighting your way into a corner i'll give you a compliment as an out:
If you took those pics earlier in the thread they are quite good. I'm assuming you came from a magazine background.Comment
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Single girl? This is actually my first no.Comment
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Dont tell me what an adult is..... I was shooting content before you had your first wet dream my friendOriginally posted by chase
She is not a single girl by industry definition. Plan and simple. We are argue what is and what isnt BBW all day long. Thats subjective, however, shes has at least 80lbs on 99% of every single girl site out there. That makes her BBW in comparison, exempting her from the standard single girl niche.
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I concur, those were some wicked hot shots.
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i dont think she has a chance at a single girl site. of course she can sell if you market her right, but theres a ton of girls out that that can sell twice or three times as good with the same amount of traffic, like the cute blonde girl that shooting manic posted.I host with VacaresComment
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Im not bashing here and we can have a difference in opinion without either of us being wrong. All I am saying is that by definition, shes not a single girl and her weight is the main difference. To me, shes bbw, but I only shoot 110lb teen girls. Hense, shes huge to me. Not ugly, just BIG. Thats my opinion.
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Those are two completely different issues-I have NEVER said she would do well in the typical teenie hardbody niche you are calling "single girl". All I said is she is not a BBW, and I seriously doubt she has 80 pounds on your girls-there is no way that girl weighs close to 200 pounds. This is me at 210 pounds:Originally posted by Shooting_ManicDont tell me what an adult is..... I was shooting content before you had your first wet dream my friend
She is not a single girl by industry definition. Plan and simple. We are argue what is and what isnt BBW all day long. Thats subjective, however, shes has at least 80lbs on 99% of every single girl site out there. That makes her BBW in comparison, exempting her from the standard single girl niche.
But whatever, go ahead, put a site up for her.
Maybe YOUR idea of a BBW is an averaged sized girl, but that will NOT sell to your average surfer looking for BBW porn, and isn't that the bottom line?
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shes definitely now bbw. some can argue and say shes a little big, but you cant put her on a bbw site and expect her to fit in. shes a toothpick compared to most of those girls.I host with VacaresComment
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