Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

this was my point. science does require faith. it requires faith that string theory or some version of it is correct - no matter how many times the math works out. science demands that it be tested. until its tested, its not proven. until its proven, its faith. its just a belief based on whats known at the time. that is one example that highlights the connection between science and philosophy and illustrates how the lines between the two can begin to fade or breakdown completely.

i wasn't defending religion or science, god or NASA. i was just making the point that science isn't always "fact". science is often faith and often what is thought to be "fact" is disproven and proven wrong... so it never was "fact" to begin with even though it was firmly believed to be.

i am not commenting on religion or defending it. i was simply trying to point out that its not as simple as "fact" vs. "fiction" - both sides, their reasoning and their arguments are often quite flawed.