fast seduction - guide to seducing women

ive seen this before, there is a whole culture out there about picking up on women, they call themselves PUA (pick-up artists)

JTF should check into this..........

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Somehow I've learned few tips from that post. Thanks.

I know how to seduce women. Teach me how to get rid of them.

Anyone interested in this should start by picking up the book by Neil Strauss, The game.

lol

haha thats nice man

tell them where you live

The debate of "nice guys vs. jerks" has been raging for quite a long time. The nature of being a "nice guy", however, is commonly misunderstood. It is believed that being polite, considerate, friendly, tender, romantic, etc. is what being a "nice guy" is all about and thus those qualities should be avoided, as it is the "jerk", the rude, the inconsiderate, the impolite, the rough guy who always gets the girl while the "nice guy" is waiting outside in the pouring rain with flowers in his hand.

It doesn't mean that women prefer rude over polite, inconsiderate over considerate, etc. It all becomes clear when we look at a very important issue often overlooked when trying to define what makes the "jerks" beat the "nice guys" when it comes to getting the girls. It is sexuality - the "jerks" are not afraid to show that they are sexual beings, while the "nice guys" hide their sexuality as a part of their agenda of being friendly, polite, and courteous towards women.

NightLight9, ASF: "The Alpha male - I use this phrase a lot... Here is quick run down of what it means to me. If you watch animal shows on PBS or Discovery Channel, many species have a dominant male who has sex with all the females in the group, while the other males get none while waiting for him to die or until they are tough enough to kick his ass and become the alpha male themselves. Many males never get to be an alpha male (never get laid).

Often it seems like you know guys who are always getting laid and other guys never get laid. You'll even see women talking to/hanging out/being friends with the average guy, but then sleep with some other guy (even if he is a jerk, sleeps around and doesn't respect them). The guy who gets laid is playing the role of the alpha male, while the other guys are submissive males.

I'm saying be the guy who gets laid. That guy is confident that he's going to get laid, because he knows he's an alpha male. He knows that women and people in general want to be with him so he doesn't shy away from conversation and meeting new people. He doesn't worry what others think about him when he's doing his thing. He takes control of a situation with authority. He knows he's fun to be with because he is always having a good time and therefore he _is_ fun to be with. He knows that if he is in a group of guys and a group of girls, he will be the one the girls choose to be with, and by having this to be the expected outcome, it is a self fufilling profecy.

Ok here's, how I did the Alpha/Dominant Male thing.... First I created a model of what I thought a Dominant Male should be. Much the same as the one stated before. Then I used it to change my frame of reference about myself, ie I stepped into my model of the Dominant Male. I claimed what I knew to be my genetic right. nd I didn't care who knew it. I didn't make excuses for it either. I just excepted it as the natural order of things. This is not an outward thing that you do but rather an inward change that radiates outward in everything you do.

Being the alpha male is all about attitude and projecting the image that you are fun to be with and the woman should want to be with you. Being the alpha male is self perpetuating. The more you believe you are the alpha male, the more you become the alpha male."

Good traits to have/develop to be a successful player

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According to some PUAs, women obviously want a man with these most important traits:

confidence
humour
smile
well groomed / good looks
ability to create an emotional connection / a feeling of romance
In addition to that, being a successful player includes:

being patient
being persistent
being comfortable just going up and talking to a new woman
finding opportunities in situations where you before did not believe there would be
being sensitive to how she feels/responds and modifying your approach accordingly
knowing how to talk to a woman to build more rapport with her
knowing how to talk to a woman to make her start thinking in romantic directions
Having mastered all of the above, these will add the final touch:

mirror her physically
notice her trance words, remember and use them
rephrase everything she says and feed it back to her
anchor all good feelings
don't argue with her, be very understanding, deeply understanding - this can help create an immense rapport
use presuppositions to direct her actions
have and keep good eye contact - also helps to create an immense rapport
touch her
and always start with the cutest girl around
ASF: "Remember, chit chatting about clubs and work school is something she can do with anyone, but someone who can lead her into a state of arousal or at least romantic interest is hard to come by. You have to set yourself apart from the other

i wish i would there was a class on this stuff in school. i had to take the crash course, but it would have been nice to understand the theory behind it

haha neat stuff

If you still insist on doing the classic date, here's a bit of advice (DD):

"End the date before she does. You've gone to a movie and are now having a bite to eat at a restaurant [make sure she pays for her movie and for her meal; you don't want to be wasting your money until she has expressed her interest in you in a most convincing fashion - has had sex with you]. Instead of letting the date drag on to that awkward time when she finally says she has to go home, maintain control of the evening [you should be running patterns here, getting kino, making her feel connected to you, getting her horny and wet etc, but this whole dating advice is obviously intended for those lacking the appropriate skills]. While the conversation is still good, while the date is still going well, announce that it's getting late and it's time to go. Tell her that you enjoyed the evening [what a lie, your goal wasn't to stuff your stomach and see a movie, your goal was to tongue her down, make her horny like she'd never been and give her the orgasm of her life] and that you are looking forward to getting together again. This is going to surprise her, since every other guy thinks, that by some miracle, if he hangs on long enough that maybe he'll convince her to have sex with him [exactly, because "hanging on long enough" will accomplish nothing, but you should know better]. If a girl wants to have sex with you, she will let you know [and if you've done her right and can read her signs, then she has already given them to you]. So if you haven't gotten these vibes, end the date while it's still going well [but in fact if you haven't gotten those vibes in spite of all your advanced seduction attempts, you should have ejected her a long time ago]. You'll set yourself apart from the other guys she's used to [no you won't - they didn't get any and neither did you]. You demonstrate that you are not easy to get [or you'll demonstrate you're a chump and a wimp like "all the other guys"]."

Just say "Hi"

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This is a really simple strategy. If you're consistent and persistent with this strategy, this could yield you a lot of beautiful women. It'll take a long time though, but then again, it requires almost no effort on your part

Here's what you do. You see a girl you like, but for some reason can't do an approach (you don't have the time, or maybe the guts, or the situation disallows it etc), at least do this - say "Hi". Keep enough eye-contact to get a confused "Hi" in return, then continue with what you were doing (walking, working etc). Maybe you'll never see the girl again. But if you do (oh joy and behold! - say "Hi" again. Then continue with what you were doing (basically, ignoring her. And so on, and so on. After the first three "Hi's" the girl is still wondering, if or how she is supposed to know you. After the fifth "Hi" she is already wondering, how come you never actually talk to her. After the tenth "Hi" she can't understand, how come you never even approach her. After the twentieth "Hi" she is so confused and intrigued about you that she just can't stand it anymore and will approach YOU instead. She'll try to find out how the two of you know, and why you never talk to her, or why you never even approach her, but you still keep saying "Hi", is there something wrong with her etc - be very vague and mysterious about it in your answers (after all, you don't have much to tell anyway. Now however, you're talking to an absolutely gorgeous girl (remember, you almost didn't even have the guts to say "Hi" to her, who is so intrigued about you the she approached you - make the best of it

So the good part of this tactic is - almost zero effort on your part, just remember saying "Hi" to her The downsides however are numerous - you might never see her again, which is especially bad if she became interested in you when you said your first "Hi" already. Or you might see her a few more times but not on a consistent enough basis to build up enough intrigue in her. Also, this takes a monstrous amount of time to ripen - months, possibly even years. Neither is it much of a confidence- and experience-builder - you'll develop a confidence of saying "Hi" to beauties (not much is it? and acquire no experience whatsoever. But it serves it purpose as a last-ditch resort when you see a 10 approaching down the street, hurrying somewhere - say "Hi", get one in return, make her think that the two of you know each other somehow (obviously she can't remember you and hope for another chance meeting (when she hopefully still vaguely remembers you.

A modification of this tactic (which seems to make some more sense) - just say "Hi" to any girl you like. Yes, any girl and anywhere - the commuter, the street, the airport, the corridor, the cafeteria. Some won't answer (maybe you greeted her too late for her to notice you), some answer, some smile and answer (see also Eye contact experiment), some answer, smile and stop (!) to initiate conversation with you (most probably about how come you know her when she doesn't seem to be able to remember you from anywhere.

The ones that you have exchanged "Hi"-s with (without ever being introduced to each other or having actually approached her) are the best to use the "We already know each other" tactic with. The next time you meet, just start in the middle, like with an old friend, comment on something/anything etc, she responds and BOOM - you're acquintances!

Ok, so that's still a long way from having her naked body between your sheets - but you've made a start and you're already well on your way

pete, i have nothing to do with that site, have you read what i have posted? this stuff is gold

while some people may think its bullshit this stuff does work, sure it wont work if you are a creep but if your a normal guy then using these techniques will improve your game...

you did not even read what i had written and your calling me a spammer, there was no need to go to that url, im sharing, no agenda

you shot that spamming comment off a bit prematurely

will it always be about the pussy or should love count for anything?

men have an inborn need to conquer vagina, this is a trait that has evolved over millions of years, its difficult to fight against

Find an expert, they knew how to do it..

imo this is right on

true sexuality has a lot to do with it. if you can exude sexual prowess it is very stimulating for a woman. a woman likes it when a man takes charge and to be dominated.
but imo, most women are so easy to get to bed. all you have to do is buy her some drinks and dinner and provide a bit of exciting converstaion and its vagina everywhere.
lots of lonely people out there. sex is a quick fix. its a great fix but not enough.

to be able to seduce one woman and keep her happy for a lifetime is the greatest of all feats.

mass pussy isn't quality. give me a woman of substance and intensity to conquer and tame. that is the true challenge for a man.

I will check that out. I'M a total loser

I like you already!

Listen to this man instead of those cheap tricks

Here's a much better tip: get loads of $$$


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ive always been curious, how do you meet the girls when you have lots of money. you still have to have a way in, what do you use DJ?

You don't meet girls. They meet you

if you have lots of money they will come to you or you can pay for them. for most individuals what greater lube/allure is there other than money?
wtf? its not hard to meet girls. it just depends on what type of girls you are looking for.

Im not talking about paying for a girl. Im talking about approach. Imo, either way, there has to be a way to connect, whether she drops something, you pick it up and then you start talking, or you smile and then you start talking, etc…

Although I liked DJs point, in reality, even with the best of the players, I have rarely seen girls initiate the contact.

Not that you really want those types of girls just a general question

it sounds like you answered your own question on the approach. let it be organic. and truthfully what does work better than a look and a smile to initiate conversation? its honest. it shows interest and its a start. its easy to start a connection, much harder to maintain it.

interesting approach

I shall try it.....heh

very interesting

okay, nice to know

I have never had to do much except be there...sorry no lol, its true!

What ever happened to just buying the Lady a cocktail? Complimenting her shoes ... hair or sparking eyes?

Geeze you young ppl! Always making everything a huge shmeis.

Pick the right one to start with.

PUA - Pick-Up Artists. Maybe this is going to be my next job.

maybe they make contests on who's the fastest PUA.

Nice read.

But u`ll never suceed if woman didnt pick u up first

The DJ bootcamp is all you need to succeed

http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/djbc.pdf

It must be exhausting to have to pretend all the time. I'd never do it.