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Old 10-22-2006, 10:30 AM  
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Originally Posted by TeaseumGirls View Post
So i guess we should leave iran alone and n.korea... fuck it let the world deal with it. Leave saddam in power and etc... I aint gonna say oil wasnt a huge part, of course it is... All wars are based on economics and the game of resources... Either you got it, or you don't! If it wasn't us, it would be china, india, who's economys are now needing oil just as badly to keep up with the growth....

why would we spend BILLIONS / Trillions to help better a country for free. Me as a taxpayer fuck that, when i say wee, I say we = TAXPAYERS! If i am paying ($$$/Lives) I want something in return. Shaving a dollar off every gallon of gas works... World War II paid for itself and then some in business dealings and etc... now is oil & helping the people worth lives well thats another arquement in itself...

In the end, I would have still liked bush over kerry or gore in a time of war.
I know we were getting a war type president rather have him fighting for me than kerry or gore. Gore is busy improving the internet he invented lol

When Bush is out of office there will be relief on all sides in hope of something better but sadly the way our election system is rigged we never really get the BEST people to choose from. Tweedle Dee (Bush) or Tweedle Dumb (Kerry / Gore) Your fucked either way!

I still think Colin Powell would have been a good president. Financially conservative, Socially in the middle!

Your conclusion may be correct - "let the world deal with it". The US never was elected to act on behalf of any other nation. It's prob more than fair to say the current admin had an invasion of Iraq on the table before even reaching office and subsequently lying to the UN and pressing for a resolution.

The current status of Iraq is a mess and reaching the introduction of the "final realization" where the US govt will, whether it likes it or not, sit down with "insurgents" and attempt to negotiate a peace. (Noticed this is now part of options being considered to stem the attacks - we are slowly getting there, but a long way to go)

In total, the US has done extensive damage by raising the "anti" against other nations - which started with the "Axis of Evil" and the nations quoted in that statement have taken defensive steps already.

The US has no "foreign policy" other than wars, threats, sanctions, warnings - diplomatic skills are non-existant. That, together with elements of greed, arrogance and generally playing smartass, have placed the US in the bed it has chosen to sleep in now. Agree - it's not a comfortable bed - and probably going to get far less comfortable before any change.

The obvious division over politics within the US is very unhealthy and damaging - it offers no benefit to the country. A qualified leader may have a chance of shifting/removing that division - the current admin have demonstrated no such ability.

Overall... the problem is not with the world. It's a problem with the US where the world is watching and waiting. Depending on the elected path, we will see an increase in aggressive action towards to US or a cooling of the current overall scenario to a point of irrelevance. It is up to the US to take the action it considers appropriate and be willing to accept the consequences/benefits of that decision. It's not a game of hardball and the next few years will be crucial.
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