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"that's"?Originally posted by Rich
WTF?
God damned booze.
You bastards know what I meant.Comment
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Is your fucking bot like on 24 fucking 7 or fucking what?Originally posted by wojComment
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No, I'm actually going to bed soon, so 50 posting will stop for a while...Originally posted by RichCustom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
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Originally posted by woj
i love you, man!
that is true dedication...Comment
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You mean you will stop the bot for upgrades/updates...Originally posted by woj
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ah shut upOriginally posted by Rich
you don't know me idiot so don't make any smart commentsComment
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Do you honestly think that someone capable of sending that kind of volume hasn't tested out other programs?Originally posted by Traxum... to my mind 20 bucks / sale on a recurring program that you've been sending sales to for years is not what I would call a good revshare program
I'm at $14 / sale which you proabably agree - sucks
I've thrown traffic at TONS of PPS and revshare programs over the years, and Naughty America gives me the biggest return on investment.
The $$ per sale or $$ per click don't matter so much as the $$$ period.
I can't pay my mortgage with a $35 per theoretical sale....I can only pay my mortgage with cash, and that's what I get with NA, lots of cash.sig too bigComment
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As ifOriginally posted by KarupLou
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That's because you had me building your galleries ;)Originally posted by Lenny2Yeah it's that "magic" TGP traffic
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yes... i agree.. but that was not my point... I wasn't pointing anything from my initial post towards you... hell I don't know your business and your sites and I don't care to be quite honest - if it seems to work for you... fine....Originally posted by Lenny2
When the 20 bucks / sale is a good value for you and your traffic that's cool with me... congrats on that... for me however $14 / sale sucks which was my point being
we all know that what might work for one might not work for another one which is why I double checked my stats with other well experienced webmasters capable of sending nice quality traffic in a nice volume and I've always heard the same.
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Uhm
SO you make 21.40 USD per sale. That is really not good at all. I'm averaging around 40USD per sale with revshare...
AndreQuestions?
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Questions?
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Lou Quote: I feel that this was 100% intentional.
The key here is that you feel.
You might feel this or that - but thats not how it always works.
Hope you get it resolved cuz both companies are top notch and unlike you I don't feel he did it intentionally!
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He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He claimed this was one human error and within 5 minutes of looking around I found dozens of one human errors. He fucked us over and knew exactly what he was doing when he did it. You don't make that mistake dozens of times.Originally posted by Yankee ScumLou Quote: I feel that this was 100% intentional.
The key here is that you feel.
You might feel this or that - but thats not how it always works.
Hope you get it resolved cuz both companies are top notch and unlike you I don't feel he did it intentionally!
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I believe Dean Martin in his later years would get in a suit and tie and go to the Hamburger Hamlet on Sunset and sit there and drink coffee and smoke cigarrettes all dayOriginally posted by A1R3K
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Originally posted by jayeff
This is one of the most intelligent posts I have ever read.
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I agree with the Elders here. set your feelings aside handle it like a professional and refund the money to the customer if you have it."We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell anybody it does. Lighthouses don't fire cannons to call attention to their shining- they just shine."Comment
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He probably doesn't have the money. Thats why he has to steal our members.Originally posted by 3piece chicken Dinner
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nicely doneOriginally posted by justsexxxUhm
SO you make 21.40 USD per sale. That is really not good at all. I'm averaging around 40USD per sale with revshare...
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ouch. that sounds painful.Comment
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agreed. I hope Andreas picks up the phone. He seemed like a nice guy when i talked with him, so i hope ha sorts this out with you.Originally posted by KarupLouThis is one of the most intelligent posts I have ever read.
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This has been a good read from people who know a lot in this business and are well known, aside from some people posting useless spam.....Originally posted by leedsfan
I decided not to reply in this thread till i read this reply...
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Don't know either of you, have seen Karups around for years, and since it looks like Karups is a Michigan company I am going for the home team
Just kidding, does sound kinda shitty what happened, hopefully it works out for both parties.
For those saying "Why if your (Karups) sites retain so well why would you need the plugin"
You could also turn that around and say, if NA's content was so great and his retention was so high up there, why would he take the risk of making his content available on other sites, does he need the money?
Just another way to look at it, again good luck getting it worked out guys, it sure looks like you have a lot of people who respect both parties and it's always a shame when good business people have conflicts with each other in this biz.
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Hello All,
A month goes by and this just seems to fall off and its forgotten. Typical that lots of people would back up NA in the begining because they thought their program is big because he has done a good job of bullshitting everyone so he has to be right and this has to be a mistake right....WRONG! This is a perfect example how everyone got fooled into thinking NA is a HUGE program who has all the money and have taken such good care of their affiliates and webmasters. We proved Andreas was wrong and most people stayed out of it because they didnt want to get in the middle. Then we clearly showed we were in the right when people called Andreas about this and we never heard from Andreas or anyone else from NA and this is all but forgotten. So here I am bumping this thread to remind everyone what a peice of shit Andreas and NA are and next time make sure you really know who you are standing behind before you jump to conclusions. ANDREAS GO FUCKYOURSELF!
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i was expecting this to get resolved....Comment
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Another bump for Lou.Comment
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every single content provider who pulls this kind of shit ought to be outed and lashed publicly and thanks for the head's up as i did not see the thread when you originally posted it.
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Andreas would do well to get this cleared up...Comment
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Yo bump For LouOriginally posted by KarupLouComment
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Not that it matters, but was the upsale links placed on ALL pages, or SOME pages?
If it is placed on ALL pages it is most likely added by mistake. If it is on SOME pages it is most likely done on purpose.
No matter what it is still wrong.
Andreas should go through his stats, they got some good tracking options so I'm sure it is not impossible for him to find all members that was reffered by domain a,b,c.com and then pay commisions on sales made + bonus + refund for plugin fees.
Also making a statement in this thread would be a good idea.I buy plugs
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If NA had any respect for their customers they would admit their mistake and do everything in their power to make it right.ICQ: 91139591Comment
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Originally posted by Due
Hi,
it does matter because he says its merely a mistake. They were placed on several pages and places, but not on all of them. No where near all of them. We all know this was 100% intentional. He knows it and we know it and now GFY knows it.
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Originally posted by XPays
Thanks for the support! I am glad more people are aware of this from this bump. That is my intention.
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Hey Lou,
I never saw this thread the first go around. Thanks for the heads up on this.
I would think any plugin feed provider you do business with is given pretty explicit ground rules on what you expect. I agree with Lens here that Andreas should have just sucked it up on the pride dept and paid you guys three months. All this drama would never have happened.
Just my two cents but imo you writing "He probably doesn't have the money. Thats why he has to steal our members." doesnt help your cause much. I know your angry man and I am as guilty as the next man of showing my anger publicly, but Socal surely has the cash to pay off three months of leased feeds.
Take care, I hope this story has a happy ending for all involved.
ps. You and Jeff coming down to Florida in August? It would be great for the posse to get together for dinner one night. I think Pierre and Shap have something in the works already.
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I pay your bills you little ass wipe now get back to fucking work?
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revshare
Revshare does seem to make the most money in the long term. Long term are the operative words here.
Originally posted by justsexxxUhm
SO you make 21.40 USD per sale. That is really not good at all. I'm averaging around 40USD per sale with revshare...
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David,Originally posted by scoreman
how are you my friend? I will down there for sure and Jeff is a maybe. I would love to get with you guys for some dinner. Send me an ICQ or an email with the details and I will be there. Yes I am angry and I agree with you about not saying certain things, but the mere fact that he cannot even reply or offer a simple acceptable solution is pathetic and therefore subject to my thoughts. And quite honestly I don't think he has the money. If he did he would have offered to pay that and have this never go public. Think about it. If he is willing to spend money on sponsoring shows, parties, dinners, etc... (all of which is more expensive then doing right by me) in the hopes of getting webmasters to push his program or use his services don't you think he would just pay me my reasonable offer of 3 months to keep this quiet and avoid the negative pub?
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Maybe this time around you guys can get this resolved.
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Originally posted by KarupLouDavid,
how are you my friend? I will down there for sure and Jeff is a maybe. I would love to get with you guys for some dinner. Send me an ICQ or an email with the details and I will be there. Yes I am angry and I agree with you about not saying certain things, but the mere fact that he cannot even reply or offer a simple acceptable solution is pathetic and therefore subject to my thoughts. And quite honestly I don't think he has the money. If he did he would have offered to pay that and have this never go public. Think about it. If he is willing to spend money on sponsoring shows, parties, dinners, etc... (all of which is more expensive then doing right by me) in the hopes of getting webmasters to push his program or use his services don't you think he would just pay me my reasonable offer of 3 months to keep this quiet and avoid the negative pub?
Louis
Let me know if you get your refund.
We want one too.
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Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
you got it Juicy! And I loved those trippin balls vids! You guys were fucked up
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Rich, come on. Regardless if his sites retain at 100%, do you think anyone values your opinion on any issue? You have no integrity.Originally posted by Rich
Move on.Comment
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Shitty situation... Didn't they stop offering their feeds? We got an e-mail last week saying they would no longer be offering them.Originally posted by KarupLou
As for having to resort to the boards... You have to do what you have to do. If a certain program is reading this, that owes me two fucking Rolexes, I am still waiting for you to complete you part of the bargain!!!!Comment
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their feeds where pretty good, too bad they got pulled so quick.Todd Spaits - Co-founder -YanksCash
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lou - i'm going to say this cause emotion's involved.
i have a LOT of respect for you, and i've done some business with andres for the last few years.
something to consider:
fuck me once -shame on you - fuck me twice - shame on me.
reality is - you should have caught this sooner. I'm guilty of that kind of thing too a lot, i move on and usually destroy the guy who did it to me privatly.
3 months? i'm guessing you're angry and rightfully so cause he got away with it for too long, but you're also mad at yourself for letting it happen. but don't let anger take over. You didn't catch it soon enough. That's reality and I think you're OVERLY mad cause you're mad at yourself for not catching it sooner. He got you. You def got him back in this thread and not even by your words soo much as him not responding in the thread - that strengthens your position a LOT.
andreas - it is NOT taking the high road avoiding this thread. Not addressing a MAJOR playing in the industry like lou is making you look week and guilty and is really hurting your rep. You NEED to make a presence here if at least to solidify your position and not have your employees do it or your rep will SEVERLY suffer.
if this was a troll, let your people handle it - lou is one of the top 20 people on the net in adult today - and def requires a response of some sort on your part.
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Originally posted by SleazyDreamlou - i'm going to say this cause emotion's involved.
i have a LOT of respect for you, and i've done some business with andres for the last few years.
something to consider:
fuck me once -shame on you - fuck me twice - shame on me.
reality is - you should have caught this sooner. I'm guilty of that kind of thing too a lot, i move on and usually destroy the guy who did it to me privatly.
3 months? i'm guessing you're angry and rightfully so cause he got away with it for too long, but you're also mad at yourself for letting it happen. but don't let anger take over. You didn't catch it soon enough. That's reality and I think you're OVERLY mad cause you're mad at yourself for not catching it sooner. He got you. You def got him back in this thread and not even by your words soo much as him not responding in the thread - that strengthens your position a LOT.
andreas - it is NOT taking the high road avoiding this thread. Not addressing a MAJOR playing in the industry like lou is making you look week and guilty and is really hurting your rep. You NEED to make a presence here if at least to solidify your position and not have your employees do it or your rep will SEVERLY suffer.
if this was a troll, let your people handle it - lou is one of the top 20 people on the net in adult today - and def requires a response of some sort on your part.
Sleazy,
I respect where you are coming from 100% and yeah of course I am mad for not catching it sooner, but the truth is I dont know how long this had been going on. Honestly, I could have caught when it was only 2 days old or several months old. Thats besides the point. THE POINT IS ANYONE WHO IS TRYING TO HIJACK MEMBERS FROM US IS FLAT OUT STEALING, CHEATING, ROBBING, ETC... FROM US. Whether for 1 hour or 1 year. You of all people should know that what he did is 100% wrong and regardless if its 1 hour old or 1 year old its fucking wrong and fraudulent. The fact he wont reply is proving my case for me and I am simply just trying to create the awareness for people who were/are not familiar with what happened and to remind the people who are/were familiar with the situation. Yes I am beating a dead dog here, but it sure is worth it for me when that dog bit me first. And in case you are wondering...yes I will conftinue to beat this dog until its fully decayed.
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150 theiving cocksuckers
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