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  • Thrawn$
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 4596

    #1

    Sponsors should provide keyword lists for affiliates!

    that would be a great tool for people promoting them with PPC


    ??
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  • After Shock Media
    It's coming look busy
    • Mar 2001
    • 35299

    #2
    Just curious is there anything at all an affiliate should do themselves?


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    • swedguy
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2002
      • 7981

      #3
      What's wrong with Overture Suggestion?

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      • chadglni
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2002
        • 6924

        #4
        Originally posted by After Shock Media
        Just curious is there anything at all an affiliate should do themselves?


        Free content.
        Free hosting.
        Free hosted galleries.
        Higher payouts.
        Custom banners and creatives.
        Exportable FHG lists in several formats.
        Picture of the day.
        Movie of the day.
        Rewards points.
        Paid exits.
        Paid cross sells.
        Random prizes.
        Payment by epassporte.
        Same day payments.
        24/7 support if you do not want to get flamed.
        And the list goes on...
        Amen. I've pushed clickcash since I got into this biz and they don't give me a fucking thing besides my check, fat and on time every week.


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        • SureFire
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2003
          • 4398

          #5
          Originally posted by Thrawn$
          that would be a great tool for people promoting them with PPC


          ??

          no....

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          • Thrawn$
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2002
            • 4596

            #6
            i mean big lists like 5000+ per paysite or niche so we can filter them or add more...
            there too many thing you can do today with PPC

            also something to track sales per keyword
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            • chadglni
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2002
              • 6924

              #7
              Originally posted by Thrawn$
              i mean big lists like 5000+ per paysite or niche so we can filter them or add more...
              there too many thing you can do today with PPC

              also something to track sales per keyword
              Yes because they would never use their own keyword lists to make more money. And I'm sure you'd really love 500 webmasters using the same keyword list too.


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              • After Shock Media
                It's coming look busy
                • Mar 2001
                • 35299

                #8
                Ya know if affiliates keep getting more and more stuff done for them, one day the powers that be may wake up evaluate the situation and decide they as well have in house affiliates as well since they are paying for everything else.

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                • wedouglas
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 5921

                  #9
                  nah, then every single affiliate would be targeting the same words and it would be hella competative. I say find your own. Besides, overature keyword tool takes 10 seconds to use

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                  • FilthyRob
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6741

                    #10
                    Originally posted by After Shock Media
                    Just curious is there anything at all an affiliate should do themselves?


                    Free content.
                    Free hosting.
                    Free hosted galleries.
                    Higher payouts.
                    Custom banners and creatives.
                    Exportable FHG lists in several formats.
                    Picture of the day.
                    Movie of the day.
                    Rewards points.
                    Paid exits.
                    Paid cross sells.
                    Random prizes.
                    Payment by epassporte.
                    Same day payments.
                    24/7 support if you do not want to get flamed.
                    And the list goes on...

                    That just about covers it
                    AKA - Clubsexy

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                    • teksonline
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 2904

                      #11
                      keywords

                      HERE'S the almighty keyword LIST

                      KEYWORDS

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                      • GatorB
                        The Demon & 12clicks
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 18208

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Thrawn$
                        that would be a great tool for people promoting them with PPC


                        ??
                        Are you retarded? What makes you think their list would be any better than your own?

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                        • WiredGuy
                          Pounding Googlebot
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34515

                          #13
                          What makes you think a sponsor program can get better keywords for PPC advertisers than an affiliate? If this were the case, TCG would have put me out of business long ago, no offense to TCG's PPC manager

                          WG
                          I play with Google.

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                          • taibo
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2005
                            • 3720

                            #14
                            yea damn they provide enough

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                            • Thrawn$
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 4596

                              #15
                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                              What makes you think a sponsor program can get better keywords for PPC advertisers than an affiliate?

                              WG
                              let say you're using a sponsor for the first time, they know their sites better, they already tried the keywords before, i dont want to loose money trying their paysite, if they told me these keywords perform better with this paysite, i loose less money trying and they make more money faster

                              you can have 4 affiliate promoting the same paysite on PPC with the same keywords, the paysite get 3-4 listing on the same keyword in the same result page (affiliates are using different domains and landing pages) but the traffic goes to the same paysite. The sponsor get more of the GOOD traffic from the good performing keywords


                              EX: the sponsor gets 5% of the whole PPC traffic from the keyword xxxxxx , they can increase the 5%
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                              • WiredGuy
                                Pounding Googlebot
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 34515

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Thrawn$
                                let say you're using a sponsor for the first time, they know their sites better, they already tried the keywords before, i dont want to loose money trying their paysite, if they told me these keywords perform better with this paysite, i loose less money trying and they make more money faster

                                That strategy is great if you're the only webmaster promoting their sites on that search engine. What's to stop you from taking those keywords and going to another sponsor? Why would a sponsor bother giving them to affiliates and just do it inhouse and keep the profits for themselves (almost every sponsor does have an inhouse PPC manager these days).

                                WG
                                I play with Google.

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                                • GatorB
                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 18208

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Thrawn$
                                  let say you're using a sponsor for the first time, they know their sites better, they already tried the keywords before, i dont want to loose money trying their paysite, if they told me these keywords perform better with this paysite, i loose less money trying and they make more money faster
                                  It's called BEING IN BUSINESS. If your are afraid to take risks may I suggest working for MCDonald's

                                  you can have 4 affiliate promoting the same paysite on PPC with the same keywords, the paysite get 3-4 listing on the same keyword in the same result page (affiliates are using different domains and landing pages) but the traffic goes to the same paysite. The sponsor get more of the GOOD traffic from the good performing keywords
                                  Not on google you can't. ONE paysite per listing.

                                  EX: the sponsor gets 5% of the whole PPC traffic from the keyword xxxxxx , they can increase the 5%
                                  You're retarded. Try a keyword, if it sucks, drop it. I suppose you want them to write the ad for you too?

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                                  • Thrawn$
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2002
                                    • 4596

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                    That strategy is great if you're the only webmaster promoting their sites on that search engine. What's to stop you from taking those keywords and going to another sponsor? Why would a sponsor bother giving them to affiliates and just do it inhouse and keep the profits for themselves (almost every sponsor does have an inhouse PPC manager these days).

                                    WG
                                    Every paysite is different, of course you'll have general performing keywords, but you can have a keyword working with paysite A and not with paysite B in the same niche.


                                    of course, we will never have the same keyword list, but a 10 000 lesbian keyword list in the webmaster area could be helpfull..
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                                    • fris
                                      I have to go potty
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 55785

                                      #19
                                      what you gona ask next for the cash programs to make you the sales for you?
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                                      • WiredGuy
                                        Pounding Googlebot
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 34515

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Thrawn$
                                        Every paysite is different, of course you'll have general performing keywords, but you can have a keyword working with paysite A and not with paysite B in the same niche.


                                        of course, we will never have the same keyword list, but a 10 000 lesbian keyword list in the webmaster area could be helpfull..

                                        Find me a single sponsor who's willing to do such a thing, I could use some initial seeding in my future keyword research.

                                        WG
                                        I play with Google.

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                                        • GatorB
                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 18208

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Thrawn$
                                          of course, we will never have the same keyword list, but a 10 000 lesbian keyword list in the webmaster area could be helpfull..
                                          Well in case you are too stupid to think of your own keywords( on obviusly that's the case ) BOTH Overture and Google have keyword suggestion tools.

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                                          • Thrawn$
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2002
                                            • 4596

                                            #22
                                            mensniche did it couple days ago

                                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=mensniche

                                            they sent me a keyword list, something like 30-80 keyword per site

                                            the sponsor have nothing to loose
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                                            • Thrawn$
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 4596

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                              Well in case you are too stupid to think of your own keywords( on obviusly that's the case ) BOTH Overture and Google have keyword suggestion tools.

                                              please leave my thread

                                              you are too much intelligent for this
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                                              • Thrawn$
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2002
                                                • 4596

                                                #24
                                                btw, there is services online who provides usefull information on your competition like their traffic sources, wich keywords, wich countries etc..

                                                so it's not a secret anymore
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                                                • GatorB
                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 18208

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Thrawn$
                                                  mensniche did it couple days ago

                                                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=mensniche

                                                  they sent me a keyword list, something like 30-80 keyword per site

                                                  the sponsor have nothing to loose
                                                  So why aren't you promoting them then?

                                                  Anyways, while sponsors are at it, I'd like them to just send me a $2000 check each week without me having me to do any actual work or be out any expense of my own.

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                                                  • adonthenet
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 16753

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                    Just curious is there anything at all an affiliate should do themselves?


                                                    Free content.
                                                    Free hosting.
                                                    Free hosted galleries.
                                                    Higher payouts.
                                                    Custom banners and creatives.
                                                    Exportable FHG lists in several formats.
                                                    Picture of the day.
                                                    Movie of the day.
                                                    Rewards points.
                                                    Paid exits.
                                                    Paid cross sells.
                                                    Random prizes.
                                                    Payment by epassporte.
                                                    Same day payments.
                                                    24/7 support if you do not want to get flamed.
                                                    And the list goes on...
                                                    exactly!!

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                                                    • GatorB
                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 18208

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Thrawn$
                                                      please leave my thread

                                                      you are too much intelligent for this

                                                      Please suck my cock.

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                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 30307

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Thrawn$
                                                        that would be a great tool for people promoting them with PPC


                                                        ??

                                                        Awe hell...
                                                        Lets have sponsors send us checks just for sitting on our asses.

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                                                        • andrej_NDC
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • May 2004
                                                          • 7760

                                                          #29
                                                          I have them, always had...

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                                                          • Va2k
                                                            I’m still alive barley.
                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                            • 10060

                                                            #30
                                                            At first when my partners suggest we go invite only I was so against that shit, but once we went this route it has been great, the webmasters we have are awesome and the ones we pick we know damn well they will bust their ass.. The time of being a lazy webmasters is coming to a end..
                                                            Tom

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                                                            • emthree
                                                              Dialer Kingpin
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 10816

                                                              #31
                                                              Be a dumb lazy fuck much?

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                                                              • Diligent
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                • 1594

                                                                #32
                                                                Hmm..

                                                                I can see some sense in doing that, but mostly from sponsors' POV - and only initially.
                                                                It would let them make more use of affiliates; having them saturate the SE's etc.

                                                                But I don't like the idea.
                                                                I like being able to profit, as an affiliate, without HAVING to pump out more than say..
                                                                10 grands a month for 500 bucks back.
                                                                In time, exactly that would become the case - at least close to that bad.

                                                                Those already doing PPC don't need a service like that from sponsors...
                                                                PPC-newbs however... Yeah, would be great for them, they would LOVE it! INITIALLY...
                                                                Then they'd drop out when it begins needing more of both money & work,
                                                                leaving it up to only the biggest sharks in the game.
                                                                And what would many of those rather do at that time, with all the money it would take?
                                                                Leave as well since daytrading/currency/whatever etc. would be more profitable.

                                                                Think ahead a little... would we really want this to happen..?
                                                                "Independent marketers" would totally leave PPC and sponsors would have to
                                                                compensate by having to do it all by themselves.
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                                                                • MrAwesome
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                  • 898

                                                                  #33
                                                                  http://tools.guerillatraffic.com/keywords/
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                                                                  • DamageX
                                                                    Marketing & Strategy
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 14293

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                    Ya know if affiliates keep getting more and more stuff done for them, one day the powers that be may wake up evaluate the situation and decide they as well have in house affiliates as well since they are paying for everything else.
                                                                    Well, at least they could use them tools at hand to drive some traffic of their own.
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                                                                    • BradM
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                      • 3397

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Dumbass. Try doing your own work.

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                                                                      • $5 submissions
                                                                        I help you SUCCEED
                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                        • 32189

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Nice list!


                                                                        Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                        Just curious is there anything at all an affiliate should do themselves?


                                                                        Free content.
                                                                        Free hosting.
                                                                        Free hosted galleries.
                                                                        Higher payouts.
                                                                        Custom banners and creatives.
                                                                        Exportable FHG lists in several formats.
                                                                        Picture of the day.
                                                                        Movie of the day.
                                                                        Rewards points.
                                                                        Paid exits.
                                                                        Paid cross sells.
                                                                        Random prizes.
                                                                        Payment by epassporte.
                                                                        Same day payments.
                                                                        24/7 support if you do not want to get flamed.
                                                                        And the list goes on...

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