Where are all the non US webmasters that said 2257 wouldn't affect them?

**ThumbLord** · 06-07-2005, 01:31 PM

Nydahl I do agree it is NOT simple, but heh it can be done, compiling a list of sponsors that have ICQ'ed me ( for myself that is sorry ) it will take some time but again it can be done

**taibo** · 06-07-2005, 01:35 PM

interesting

**rednet** · 06-07-2005, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

comparing apples to oranges...I don't have time to search out the text but there is text involving this matter directly..that if you want to sell adult related materials to a US market you have to comply.

in that case an US citizen will buy porn on the European market

don't mix up the concepts

**Damian_Maxcash** · 06-07-2005, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

comparing apples to oranges...I don't have time to search out the text but there is text involving this matter directly..that if you want to sell adult related materials to a US market you have to comply.

The internet obviously makes that impossible to enforce. Sitting here in my living room in the UK I cant break US laws, even if I tried.

If I commit an offence against a US citizen from here and we had the same legislation then I could be extradited I think. However, the UK dosnt have any corresponding 2257 legislation. In fact I may even be breaking a few UK privacy laws by complying with 2257!

I am worried about how this will affect the industry as a whole.... but whatever I do I wont be worried about a knock on the door from the FBI.

**rednet** · 06-07-2005, 01:45 PM

eroswebmaster,

don't you think you do illegal things when you sell porn to chinese surfers
because porn is illegal in their country? you do not call it chinese market, don't you? i'm sure you call it US market... so, the same is for Europe too

**FleshJoe2005** · 06-07-2005, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by damian2001

The internet obviously makes that impossible to enforce. Sitting here in my living room in the UK I cant break US laws, even if I tried.

If I commit an offence against a US citizen from here and we had the same legislation then I could be extradited I think. However, the UK dosnt have any corresponding 2257 legislation. In fact I may even be breaking a few UK privacy laws by complying with 2257!

I am worried about how this will affect the industry as a whole.... but whatever I do I wont be worried about a knock on the door from the FBI.

London is so much nicer than lets say Dallas, anyways

**directfiesta** · 06-07-2005, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by chadglni

Have fun. Meanwhile US based webmasters and those that won't give up US sponsors will be using non explicit promo and will be raking in the cash.

Read it a few times, and still doesn't make sense...

Care to explain ?

If that was the case. why did you guys switch to explicit in the first place ?

**tranza** · 06-07-2005, 02:14 PM

This chadglni dude is such an idiot...

**chadglni** · 06-07-2005, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by directfiesta

Read it a few times, and still doesn't make sense...

Care to explain ?

If that was the case. why did you guys switch to explicit in the first place ?

They does not = me. As soon as they see conversions from non explicit they will be converted. My opinion only. ;)

**Quotealex** · 06-07-2005, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Good luck on trying to build the next TCG, NastyDollars, Karups...etc...etc...etc

I wouldn't suprised if a few of those big US firm decide to relocate in a more porn friendly country

**broke** · 06-07-2005, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by damian2001

The internet obviously makes that impossible to enforce. Sitting here in my living room in the UK I cant break US laws, even if I tried.

You can and would be if you sell products to US customers within US borders while not complying with US/UK trade laws and sanctions or if your product did not comply with US law.

I guess it all boils down to the following:

Where exactly is the point of sale in an international ecommerce transaction involving no tangible products -- purchase locale, isp locale, hosting provider locale, payment processor locale, or locale of the media company?

According to the 2257 revision -- the governments contention is the point of sale (as it pertains to US customers purchasing within the US borders) is the US and therefore you are operating as an importer of goods and therefore bound by US law.

Originally posted by damian2001

I am worried about how this will affect the industry as a whole.... but whatever I do I wont be worried about a knock on the door from the FBI.

Obviously you shouldn't be.

Something tells me that that wouldn't fly internationally and that sellers outside the US that sell to US citizens and never set foot in the US would have very little to worry about.

**Nydahl** · 06-07-2005, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Alex from Montreal

I wouldn't suprised if a few of those big US firm decide to relocate in a more porn friendly country

would be my very first step if my surname is Lightspeed

**rednet** · 06-07-2005, 02:52 PM

by the way, what do you all think about amateur picture posts where all images are submitted by surfers? is it time to die for them?

Where are all the non US webmasters that said 2257 wouldn't affect them?

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