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Old 10-15-2006, 01:26 PM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally Posted by John Marco View Post
Any good webcam site should have proper fraud controls (Both automatic and manual) implemented to decrease the chance of refunds and to allow higher spending per person initially so they don't have to limit to something small like $100 per day. This just hurts the affiliates

ok... rather than getting into an argument which is constructed to imply that no one does what they are actually doing.. let me ask you some simple questions

--- your webmaster stats say nothing of refunds and chargebacks

so... what do YOU do?

are you paying commissions on each and every sale that happens and its immediately reported in the stats? are you are even paying commissions on those guys that get through the system and start spending crazy money or start showing a pattern of behavior that indicates fraud?

if some romanian kid starts spending 1000.00 a day to chat with his girlfriend, make money and keep users from chatting with her, do i still get paid on all sales made up to the point that you caught him? do i get commissions on all subsequent times he gets back in with new IP's/Cards/usernames/passwords/e-mails?



the fact is that you don't have a perfect way to catch all fraud BEFORE the transaction(s) happen. there isn't one. thats why you have to manually review everything, read chat logs and employ a wide range of tactics to flag suspicious behavior.

if it was possible to stop fraud before it happened, people wouldn't call someone like epoch and say "hi, i want to start a cam site" and be promptly told to fuck off.

if you can't stop fraud before it happens... then you are telling us that you either pay commissions on fraud or you silently balance it all out on the back end before reporting to affiliates.
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