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  • Karupted Charles
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 1662

    #1

    Karups, Boy Fun, EENT 2257 Announcment

    EENT Inc., a.k.a. XXXRewards, Karup's Private Collection, Karup's Hometown Amateurs, and BFCollection would like to advise all of our loyal affiliates of some changes that will be taking place with our affiliate program in light of the new 2257 requirements that will become active June 23, 2005.

    As a company that has always been concerned about its affiliates and whom has consistently take steps to protect them through the years we want to make you aware of several factors. The new 2257 legislation is something that will affect many people besides those now considered secondary producers. In an effort to comply with new legislation and protect the identities of our performers this is what we have decided to do for our company and those involved with us.

    Effective June 23, 2005 we will no longer be providing content that can be deemed ?sexually explicit?
    to our affiliates for the purpose of creating galleries, web pages and other promotional materials.

    By definition. 2257 is a record keeping/creating and maintaining law and can only affect those that are required to keep records. Softcore content in our attorney's opinion is not covered under any 2257 legislation to date. Affiliates publishing sponsor materials that do not depict actual sexual explicit sex do not need to keep records under the 2257 legislation.

    Our webmasters TOS pages will be updated to explain in detail what this means to you and where you can get new content and promotional materials that will comply with new legislation. There are no exceptions to this no matter what country you live in. As of June 23, 2005 anyone caught promoting our sites after that date using hardcore content and not complying with the new 2257 legislation will have their account closed.

    We are committed to making our webmasters as much money as possible while remaining responsible. We will be going though our affiliate area and providing an abundance of non sexually explicit images for our webmasters use in building galleries , web pages and other promotional materials. We will also be adding many, many more hosted galleries that display hardcore content since linking to these pages does not require you to hold records. More details on this to follow. We are also actively working on alternative compliant solutions to provide our webmasters with what they want in regards to promotional materials. It is our intention to provide you with as many tools as possible.

    These changes are based on current legislation, if our attorneys or the FSC are able to fight the point that are unjust and get the laws changed or blocked we will then keep you up to date with future changes. We encourage all of you to donate to the FSC to help fight this and to contact a lawyer that specializes in 2257 or adult content law.

    We are here to help you during this transition, please feel free to contact us with any question you may have about how this affect you as our affiliate. We will now concentrate on answering our Affiliates questions and will not be available to comment on this in a public forum. Any questions EENT affiliates have, should be handled by emailing [email protected] with your question and your affiliate ID.
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  • Donny
    As you wish...
    • May 2002
    • 13754

    #2
    Two thumbs up, guys!!

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    • SetTheWorldonFire
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2002
      • 7444

      #3
      Here they come
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      • Trent Edison
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jun 2003
        • 6132

        #4
        Good job.

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        • Raven
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 6874

          #5
          Excellent.
          Raven

          ~RETIRED~

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          • studio
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2004
            • 1095

            #6
            Way to go Guys... Being one of your photographers... I'm glad you are thinking of the models saftey first...

            Thanks Again... Your a Class Act!

            Denny

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            • Donny
              As you wish...
              • May 2002
              • 13754

              #7
              I love companies who protect models instead of worrying only about the bottom line. Perfect example of LONG TERM THINKING.

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              • jawanda
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2003
                • 6040

                #8
                EENT = Rock Fuckin' Solid.

                Good move guys.



                -P

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                • Kimmykim
                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 16015

                  #9
                  Nice solution, I'm glad to see more programs taking this approach.

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                  • Rui
                    web
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 9533

                    #10
                    Another one, nice going ;)

                    now if only the other top dogs followed you

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                    • KRL
                      Entrepreneur
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 31429

                      #11
                      If all the programs, tgp's, etc. had kept the teaser images softcore from the get go we wouldn't be dealing with this 2257 crap.

                      As an industry we have no one to blame but ourselves.
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                      • Rui
                        web
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 9533

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KRL
                        If all the programs, tgp's, etc. had kept the teaser images softcore from the get go we wouldn't be dealing with this 2257 crap.

                        As an industry we have no one to blame but ourselves.
                        Here more than in any other industry everything is made for a quick-buck, most people simply don't give a fuck...

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                        • Sarah_Jayne
                          Now with more Jayne
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 40077

                          #13
                          cream is rising to the top

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                          • wjxxx
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 4448

                            #14
                            not giving ID`s = good move

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                            • tranza
                              ICQ: 197-556-237
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 57559

                              #15
                              It seems that all programs are going that way....

                              I'm just a newbie.

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                              • NaughtyRob
                                Two fresh affiliate progs
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 29602

                                #16
                                Good job guys.
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                                • crazies
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 1491

                                  #17
                                  Way to go Jeff, Lou, Charles and the whole class act bunch a ya!

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                                  • xxxice
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 5042

                                    #18
                                    And another one and another one

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                                    • RogerV
                                      Banned!
                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 12591

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                      If all the programs, tgp's, etc. had kept the teaser images softcore from the get go we wouldn't be dealing with this 2257 crap.

                                      As an industry we have no one to blame but ourselves.

                                      I've been saying this for years... I totally agree


                                      Good job karups. Keeping things clean will only benefit us in the future

                                      posted this 3 years ago http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=73735

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                                      • TTiger
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2002
                                        • 3030

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Rui
                                        Here more than in any other industry everything is made for a quick-buck, most people simply don't give a fuck...

                                        some sites have push the button too far on the nasty hardcore/humiliation/modeles looking too young etc..

                                        look at gagging ...girls puking while sucking a dick..
                                        those sites and act are the main reason of the 2257

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                                        • rockbear
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 806

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SPW Guru
                                          EENT Inc., a.k.a. XXXRewards, Karup's Private Collection, Karup's Hometown Amateurs, and BFCollection would like to advise all of our loyal affiliates of some changes that will be taking place with our affiliate program in light of the new 2257 requirements that will become active June 23, 2005.

                                          As a company that has always been concerned about its affiliates and whom has consistently take steps to protect them through the years we want to make you aware of several factors. The new 2257 legislation is something that will affect many people besides those now considered secondary producers. In an effort to comply with new legislation and protect the identities of our performers this is what we have decided to do for our company and those involved with us.

                                          Effective June 23, 2005 we will no longer be providing content that can be deemed ?sexually explicit?
                                          to our affiliates for the purpose of creating galleries, web pages and other promotional materials.

                                          By definition. 2257 is a record keeping/creating and maintaining law and can only affect those that are required to keep records. Softcore content in our attorney's opinion is not covered under any 2257 legislation to date. Affiliates publishing sponsor materials that do not depict actual sexual explicit sex do not need to keep records under the 2257 legislation.

                                          Our webmasters TOS pages will be updated to explain in detail what this means to you and where you can get new content and promotional materials that will comply with new legislation. There are no exceptions to this no matter what country you live in. As of June 23, 2005 anyone caught promoting our sites after that date using hardcore content and not complying with the new 2257 legislation will have their account closed.

                                          We are committed to making our webmasters as much money as possible while remaining responsible. We will be going though our affiliate area and providing an abundance of non sexually explicit images for our webmasters use in building galleries , web pages and other promotional materials. We will also be adding many, many more hosted galleries that display hardcore content since linking to these pages does not require you to hold records. More details on this to follow. We are also actively working on alternative compliant solutions to provide our webmasters with what they want in regards to promotional materials. It is our intention to provide you with as many tools as possible.

                                          These changes are based on current legislation, if our attorneys or the FSC are able to fight the point that are unjust and get the laws changed or blocked we will then keep you up to date with future changes. We encourage all of you to donate to the FSC to help fight this and to contact a lawyer that specializes in 2257 or adult content law.

                                          We are here to help you during this transition, please feel free to contact us with any question you may have about how this affect you as our affiliate. We will now concentrate on answering our Affiliates questions and will not be available to comment on this in a public forum. Any questions EENT affiliates have, should be handled by emailing [email protected] with your question and your affiliate ID.

                                          So I must removed all the pics with sexual explicit that I promoted on my galleries. Damn this is about 95% of your content SPW Guru. Dosen't look good at all for us affiliates

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                                          • Donny
                                            As you wish...
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 13754

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by rockbear
                                            So I must removed all the pics with sexual explicit that I promoted on my galleries. Damn this is about 95% of your content SPW Guru. Dosen't look good at all for us affiliates
                                            It's the only long term solution to this problem. Putting models in jeopardy by handing out IDs is wrong. Period. That leaves this as the only solution.

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                                            • RogerV
                                              Banned!
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 12591

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by rockbear
                                              So I must removed all the pics with sexual explicit that I promoted on my galleries. Damn this is about 95% of your content SPW Guru. Dosen't look good at all for us affiliates
                                              Look in the future. Surfers will have to pay and they will retain longer. which means Programs can afford to bump up payouts ect. or you will make more in rev-share

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                                              • chadglni
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 6924

                                                #24
                                                I predict a lot of 404 redirects coming soon.

                                                Awesome post btw. Where are all the non US webmasters that were yelling about how this wouldn't effect them at all?

                                                "There are no exceptions to this no matter what country you live in. As of June 23, 2005 anyone caught promoting our sites after that date using hardcore content and not complying with the new 2257 legislation will have their account closed."


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                                                • Donny
                                                  As you wish...
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 13754

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by chadglni
                                                  I predict a lot of 404 redirects coming soon.

                                                  Awesome post btw. Where are all the non US webmasters that were yelling about how this wouldn't effect them at all?

                                                  "There are no exceptions to this no matter what country you live in. As of June 23, 2005 anyone caught promoting our sites after that date using hardcore content and not complying with the new 2257 legislation will have their account closed."
                                                  Shouldn't be too hard to redirect to a compliant gallery. I know I have a lot of work to do on my sites that promote others, but you don't see me bitching about it. It needs to be done.

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                                                  • webair
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                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 8531

                                                    #26
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                                                    • Rui
                                                      web
                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 9533

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by chadglni
                                                      I predict a lot of 404 redirects coming soon.

                                                      Awesome post btw. Where are all the non US webmasters that were yelling about how this wouldn't effect them at all?

                                                      "There are no exceptions to this no matter what country you live in. As of June 23, 2005 anyone caught promoting our sites after that date using hardcore content and not complying with the new 2257 legislation will have their account closed."
                                                      Sorry to burst your bubble but non-us webmasters will still have a clear edge over us ones

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                                                      • TaDoW
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                        • 3875

                                                        #28
                                                        definitely a good move guys.

                                                        A model's safety is vastly more important than a few bucks. Many people don't understand this point ... that as paysite owners, we have to deal with some of the most twisted fucks in the world who would do ANYTHING to get at a model's personal info to stalk him/her. ... not to mention the bible thumping extremists who wouldn't think twice about placing a bomb on their doorstep.

                                                        It is unfortunate that G dub and Gonzoles and their groupies can't see past their own noses.

                                                        Once again guys, good move, and you have our full support and cooperation in your decision. We wouldn't bat a single eyelash if we have to change any content b/c of this. Happy to oblige.
                                                        -TaDoW

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                                                        • RogerV
                                                          Banned!
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 12591

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by chadglni
                                                          I predict a lot of 404 redirects coming soon.

                                                          Awesome post btw. Where are all the non US webmasters that were yelling about how this wouldn't effect them at all?

                                                          "There are no exceptions to this no matter what country you live in. As of June 23, 2005 anyone caught promoting our sites after that date using hardcore content and not complying with the new 2257 legislation will have their account closed."

                                                          Which is the only honest and right thing to do..

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                                                          • Donny
                                                            As you wish...
                                                            • May 2002
                                                            • 13754

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Rui
                                                            Sorry to burst your bubble but non-us webmasters will still have a clear edge over us ones

                                                            When companies like this tell non-us affiliates to comply or have their accounts terminated... please explain to me what advantage non-us companies have again...

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                                                            • FilthyRob
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 6741

                                                              #31
                                                              model safety should be number one. The government should have thought about this when coming up with the term secondary producers
                                                              AKA - Clubsexy

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                                                              • Rui
                                                                web
                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                • 9533

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                When companies like this tell non-us affiliates to comply or have their accounts terminated... please explain to me what advantage non-us companies have again...
                                                                Somehow I get the idea you think that the Adult business is only the US or limited to the companies enforcing 2257 for everybody...

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                                                                • VeriSexy
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                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                  • 25463

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by tranza
                                                                  It seems that all programs are going that way....


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                                                                  • FleshJoe2005
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                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                    • 287

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Where is Dopeman to tell us this won't work? He disappears just when he's most needed..
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                                                                    • Rui
                                                                      web
                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                      • 9533

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                                                      The less hardcore there is the better
                                                                      much much better

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                                                                      • TDF
                                                                        Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                        • 27296

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by TaDoW
                                                                        definitely a good move guys.

                                                                        A model's safety is vastly more important than a few bucks. Many people don't understand this point ... that as paysite owners, we have to deal with some of the most twisted fucks in the world who would do ANYTHING to get at a model's personal info to stalk him/her. ... not to mention the bible thumping extremists who wouldn't think twice about placing a bomb on their doorstep.

                                                                        It is unfortunate that G dub and Gonzoles and their groupies can't see past their own noses.

                                                                        Once again guys, good move, and you have our full support and cooperation in your decision. We wouldn't bat a single eyelash if we have to change any content b/c of this. Happy to oblige.


                                                                        good point..i also see conversions going up because of less hardcore images
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                                                                        • Rui
                                                                          web
                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 9533

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by TDF
                                                                          good point..i also see conversions going up because of less hardcore images
                                                                          We need to see alot more sponsors following the same route AND enforce their TOS, plus so busts from US people breaking the rules of course

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                                                                          • OY
                                                                            Industry Pioneer
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 5401

                                                                            #38
                                                                            2257 and moves like this will only strengthen our industry as a whole. Conversions will eventually get better from it (get rid of free porn) and the serious companies will prevail. Good move by KARUPS, I hope more companies follow suit really fast.

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                                                                            • punker barbie
                                                                              Meow Meow!!!
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 10232

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Awesome team at XXXRewards and good solution!
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                                                                              • Xenophage
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                • 12122

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Karups is rock solid in my book!

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                                                                                • Shooting_Manic
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                                  • 1740

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Another one of the biggest and most respected taking the right stance on this issue. Protecting their model as well as supporing their affiliates.

                                                                                  Nice job!
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                                                                                  • ravo
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 5464

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I assume this means that you can still use your *own* purchased content if you are a non-US webmaster? Just looking for clarification.
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                                                                                    • Shap
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 8313

                                                                                      #43


                                                                                      I agree 100% with this!

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                                                                                      • easy01
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                                                        • 321

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by ravo
                                                                                        I assume this means that you can still use your *own* purchased content if you are a non-US webmaster? Just looking for clarification.

                                                                                        I also want to know this
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                                                                                        • 3piece chicken Dinner
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                          • 1065

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by easy01
                                                                                          I also want to know this
                                                                                          Seems like it would be easy enough to find out.

                                                                                          Originally posted by Spw Guru
                                                                                          We will now concentrate on answering our Affiliates questions and will not be available to comment on this in a public forum. Any questions EENT affiliates have, should be handled by emailing [email protected] with your question and your affiliate ID.
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                                                                                          • Vanilla DeVille
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                                            • 8097

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Good Stuff!!!
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                                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                              • 52942

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              This 2257 situation is showing some to be thinking long term and others short term.

                                                                                              Last year the cry was how easily some companies were handing over names to Acacia. This year we see the people who are prepared to hand over models names and IDs to anyone and those who will not.

                                                                                              Which ones do you think will go the extra yard to also protect you and which ones do you think will hand you over for a few dollars?



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                                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                • 52942

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                                It seems that all programs are going that way....

                                                                                                No there are a few who are so desperate they will give out models IDs to affiliates. Probably scared that losing a few affiliates will break them.

                                                                                                Seems all those talking to lawyers are coming up with a similar solution.



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                                                                                                • GatorB
                                                                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                  • 18208

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by chadglni
                                                                                                  Awesome post btw. Where are all the non US webmasters that were yelling about how this wouldn't effect them at all?
                                                                                                  You mean the same ones that were calling me an idiot for saying the same thing?

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                                                                                                  • GatorB
                                                                                                    The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                                    • 18208

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by ravo
                                                                                                    I assume this means that you can still use your *own* purchased content if you are a non-US webmaster? Just looking for clarification.

                                                                                                    Why couldn't a US webmaster use his own purchased hardcore content? If you assumed that 2257 means US webmasters can't use hardcore then you're not reading the regs very well.

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