Exactly who the fuck are you making those heavy loading galleries for?

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  • CumSensei
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 3986
    #1

    Exactly who the fuck are you making those heavy loading galleries for?

    Ok I just have to ask you people this...

    When you make a "Cool looking" heavy loading graphical gallery who do you make it for?

    I found out a simple text link without ANY "cool" looking graphics are way better converting then a one that contains all those "coolT effects.

    So who do you build it for?

    The webmaster who think his site need that shit or for the surfer?
    CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.
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    • nastyking
      • Nov 2002
      • 2174
      #2
      They make it for the people that get an erection from a fancy design.

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        • bigdog
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 6964
          #3
          hey you need to impress the webmaster first

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            • hjnet
              Confirmed User
              • May 2002
              • 3815
              #4
              I'm using next to no graphics on my galleries, only pure sales text and text links, and it works rather well for me, and the SE traffic is a nice side effect

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                • Roald
                  SecretFriends.com
                  • May 2001
                  • 27910
                  #5
                  Originally posted by bigdog
                  hey you need to impress the webmaster first
                  Exactely, get in the webmaster, tell him the galleries are oversaturated and advice him to build his own for maximum profits (and yours ofcourse) ;)))

                  Simple as that.


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                    • Nicky
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 30071
                      #6
                      Originally posted by hjnet
                      I'm using next to no graphics on my galleries, only pure sales text and text links, and it works rather well for me, and the SE traffic is a nice side effect
                      same here, I do use maybe 1 banner too, but I doubt that can be rated as fancy graphics

                      gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                        • LionDollars
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                          • Nov 2004
                          • 407
                          #7
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                            • Va2k
                              I’m still alive barley.
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 10060
                              #8
                              Originally posted by CumSensei
                              Ok I just have to ask you people this...

                              When you make a "Cool looking" heavy loading graphical gallery who do you make it for?

                              I found out a simple text link without ANY "cool" looking graphics are way better converting then a one that contains all those "coolT effects.

                              So who do you build it for?

                              The webmaster who think his site need that shit or for the surfer?
                              I totaly agree and you hit the nail in the head with

                              The webmaster who think his site need that shit or for the surfer
                              Tom

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                                • Ross
                                  Ik ben een aap
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 18874
                                  #9
                                  My galleries look good, load good, and convert good. You guys do it your way, I'll do it my way! We'll both make money!

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                                    • DamageX
                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 14293
                                      #10
                                      FACT: Unless you're paying for the submission, the TGP/MGP owner is gonna list the best looking galleries, since those keep bookmarkers returning.

                                      It's all a traffic game. If you can get fresh traffic sources and know how to keep that traffic, then you can make your own rules. Otherwise, you need to find a way from keeping your traffic from bookmarking your trades instead of you.
                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                        • CumSensei
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 3986
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by DamageX
                                          FACT: Unless you're paying for the submission, the TGP/MGP owner is gonna list the best looking galleries, since those keep bookmarkers returning.
                                          So its the style of the galleries...so grapichal galleries always keep more surfers coming back?

                                          So a clean text link gallery would not? Lots of fancy flashing banners and buttons and shit brings back more bookmarks?

                                          Is that what you saying?
                                          CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                            • nastyking
                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 2174
                                              #12
                                              How do you guys determine what type of galleries (clean or graphic) generates more? Do you just have a feeling or do you use accurate tracking and compare your galleries eCPMs?

                                              I did the latter and clean galleries without graphics have MUCH higher eCPMs (...)
                                              Last edited by nastyking; 06-07-2005, 02:56 AM.

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                                                • Ross
                                                  Ik ben een aap
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 18874
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by nastyking
                                                  How do you guys determine what type of galleries (clean or graphic) generates more? Do you just have a feeling or do you use accurate tracking and compare your galleries eCPMs?

                                                  I did the latter and clean galleries without graphics have MUCH higher eCPMs (...)
                                                  Interesting question...lets see some of the idiots answer it.

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                                                    • DamageX
                                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 14293
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by CumSensei
                                                      So its the style of the galleries...so grapichal galleries always keep more surfers coming back?

                                                      So a clean text link gallery would not? Lots of fancy flashing banners and buttons and shit brings back more bookmarks?

                                                      Is that what you saying?
                                                      When it comes to free submissions or free partner account listings, the site owner will list the fanciest galleries. It's simple, if it looks good, people will remember it, and they'll also remember where they found it, thus having a reason to return there.

                                                      This is a debate I had starting four years ago and on. You're fighting windmills. If you want to cash in on better advertising methods, you'd first have to start building your own traffic and make your own rules. No one's gonna start bending theirs just to make it easier for you to sell.
                                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                        • CumSensei
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 3986
                                                          #15
                                                          Well mostly when I did both styles. (in a year back or so)
                                                          I used the "campaign" option some sponsors have.

                                                          And I must say the cleaner text link galleries got much more clicks then the graphical ones.

                                                          I think this is mainly because a normal text link still trigger the "click finger" with surfers. In oposit of a image text that dont look like a clickable link most times.

                                                          Thats how I did it anyway.
                                                          CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                            • DamageX
                                                              Marketing & Strategy
                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 14293
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Ross
                                                              Interesting question...lets see some of the idiots answer it.
                                                              LOL, what happened to your sig? One minute it's there, the next is gone, WTF?
                                                              Whitehat is for chumps

                                                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                • CumSensei
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 3986
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Ross
                                                                  Interesting question...lets see some of the idiots answer it.
                                                                  Im sorry and you are?
                                                                  CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                    • CumSensei
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 3986
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                      When it comes to free submissions or free partner account listings, the site owner will list the fanciest galleries. It's simple, if it looks good, people will remember it, and they'll also remember where they found it, thus having a reason to return there.

                                                                      This is a debate I had starting four years ago and on. You're fighting windmills. If you want to cash in on better advertising methods, you'd first have to start building your own traffic and make your own rules. No one's gonna start bending theirs just to make it easier for you to sell.
                                                                      And as far as you know this is how all site owners think?

                                                                      I pity you all!
                                                                      CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                        • DamageX
                                                                          Marketing & Strategy
                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 14293
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by CumSensei
                                                                          Im sorry and you are?
                                                                          I'm pretty sure he's not.
                                                                          Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                          If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                            • DamageX
                                                                              Marketing & Strategy
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 14293
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by CumSensei
                                                                              And as far as you know this is how all site owners think?

                                                                              I pity you all!
                                                                              You know, you can pity site owners all you want, but they've got the traffic and if you're nice and don't make comments like that towards them, they might just list your galleries. If they don't, then all you're left with is pity and all they're left with is traffic, how does that work out for your bank account?
                                                                              Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                • Bake
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 5919
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by CumSensei
                                                                                  Ok I just have to ask you people this...

                                                                                  When you make a "Cool looking" heavy loading graphical gallery who do you make it for?

                                                                                  I found out a simple text link without ANY "cool" looking graphics are way better converting then a one that contains all those "coolT effects.

                                                                                  So who do you build it for?

                                                                                  The webmaster who think his site need that shit or for the surfer?
                                                                                  Hey CumSensei I make them sometimes just for fun and also just to test and also just to impress the stupid and sometimes just to check Im still on top of the game. But hey you know Im still here and making gallerires before half these guys left high school. Why do you think those that know ask me how to make galleries.
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                                                                                    • CumSensei
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 3986
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                      You know, you can pity site owners all you want, but they've got the traffic and if you're nice and don't make comments like that towards them, they might just list your galleries. If they don't, then all you're left with is pity and all they're left with is traffic, how does that work out for your bank account?
                                                                                      Hehe the tpg sites wont list the galleries I build now anyway so I really dont care much

                                                                                      And ofcourse I have my own network of traffic...not many people make a living of just submit galleries.
                                                                                      CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                        • CDSmith
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                          • 51460
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I just like to make my galleries artistically different, pleasing to the eye, yet still fairly clean, organized and fast-loading.

                                                                                          But definitely artistically different is key :D
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                                                                                            • CumSensei
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                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 3986
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Bake
                                                                                              Hey CumSensei I make them sometimes just for fun and also just to test and also just to impress the stupid and sometimes just to check Im still on top of the game. But hey you know Im still here and making gallerires before half these guys left high school. Why do you think those that know ask me how to make galleries.
                                                                                              Bake
                                                                                              Hehe yeah I know ya been here forever man!

                                                                                              I just wanted to know why all people today make those heavy galleries....to suck up to the webmasters or to acctually make better sales then by making clean text galleries.

                                                                                              I sure as fuck always did better with less cluttered galleries. Less for the surfer to think about.....content, link out to sponsor.

                                                                                              Thats all thats visible.
                                                                                              CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                • ffmihai
                                                                                                  keep walking...
                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                                  • 7177
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                  FACT: Unless you're paying for the submission, the TGP/MGP owner is gonna list the best looking galleries, since those keep bookmarkers returning...
                                                                                                  who told you that? . not in my books anyways... webmasters list based on content's quality. thats the first thing that matters...

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                                                                                                    • VeriSexy
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Simple text gallerys will always convert best but not many tgp owners will list them..........
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                                                                                                        • CumSensei
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 3986
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                                                                                          Simple text gallerys will always convert best but not many tgp owners will list them..........
                                                                                                          Thats why you need to start your own network of sites!
                                                                                                          To get your best converting galleries out there.
                                                                                                          CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                            • tradermcduck
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                              • 2362
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by nastyking
                                                                                                              They make it for the people that get an erection from a fancy design.
                                                                                                              MarkB

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                                                                                                                • MassiveDollars - DonPaul
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Hehe lets just put it this way, Im sure Ross has more traffic than most submitters have... ;)

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                                                                                                                    • Pornopat
                                                                                                                      AdultTubeSubmits.com
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                      • 10598
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CumSensei
                                                                                                                      Im sorry and you are?
                                                                                                                      If you dont know Ross you have been away to many times....
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                                                                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                                          FACT: Unless you're paying for the submission, the TGP/MGP owner is gonna list the best looking galleries, since those keep bookmarkers returning.

                                                                                                                          FACT: surfers couldn't give a rats ass about how a gallery looks. They care about the content. I have friends that are surfers. Trust me, they really really don't give a fuck about the "look" of a gallery. If I ask them how a gallery "looks" they think I'm talking about the pics. The only people that notice design are A) webmasters B) homos.

                                                                                                                          Now I'm sure some smartass will say "But better looking galleries get more hits to the sponsors." Well maybe, maybe not. That's not the question here today. The question is when it comes to a surfer being able to jack-off to a gallery does design matter? The answer is no. In fact if your gallery takes to long to load he leave and go to another.

                                                                                                                          A good % of porn surfers still are on dial-up. I'm on 3Mbps cable which typically runs at 2.7 Mbps and some of these galleries take a few seconds to load for me. I can imagine how long that would take using dial-up.

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                                                                                                                            • CumSensei
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                              • 3986
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                              FACT: surfers couldn't give a rats ass about how a gallery looks. They care about the content. I have friends that are surfers. Trust me, they really really don't give a fuck about the "look" of a gallery. If I ask them how a gallery "looks" they think I'm talking about the pics. The only people that notice design are A) webmasters B) homos.

                                                                                                                              Now I'm sure some smartass will say "But better looking galleries get more hits to the sponsors." Well maybe, maybe not. That's not the question here today. The question is when it comes to a surfer being able to jack-off to a gallery does design matter? The answer is no. In fact if your gallery takes to long to load he leave and go to another.

                                                                                                                              A good % of porn surfers still are on dial-up. I'm on 3Mbps cable which typically runs at 2.7 Mbps and some of these galleries take a few seconds to load for me. I can imagine how long that would take using dial-up.

                                                                                                                              Ok its official!! I LOVE YOU MAN!!!
                                                                                                                              CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                                                • GatorB
                                                                                                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 18208
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CumSensei
                                                                                                                                  Ok its official!! I LOVE YOU MAN!!!
                                                                                                                                  . Um..... I don't swing that way, but thank you.

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                                                                                                                                    • CumSensei
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 3986
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Maby we can just hug then?
                                                                                                                                      CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by CumSensei
                                                                                                                                          Maby we can just hug then?
                                                                                                                                          Sure...

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                                                                                                                                            • sexgayfree
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2005
                                                                                                                                              • 191
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                              The only people that notice design are A) webmasters B) homos.
                                                                                                                                              Homos just want to jerk off like others porn surfers, not really interessed in gallery design but in content...

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