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  • nofx
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    • Nov 2002
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    #1

    why were people at the Auschwitz concentration camps such cowards ??

    i mean lets think about it...

    was it malnutrition? fear? cowardliness? clinging on to that hope of "being rescued"?

    fucking come on, you see/hear a group of people leave to go 'get showers or get de-liced' and they never come back? obviously people are dying and being killed all around you and your fate is going to be the same.

    so I must ask, why didnt they all just rise up and start fucking shit up and killing guards/anyone? they were going to die anyways, why not die with pride and honor and take out some bastard germans with you. you know you're going to die some ill fate in the camp, why not try to do what you can while you're still alive.

    yet they just allowed themselves to be controlled like sheep

    Often times I wonder why
    There's love and hate, theres live or die.
    When sickness comes I must decide:
    When feelings go, theres suicide.
  • X37375787

    #2
    Fear. Malnutrition. Weakness. Intimidation.

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    • ssp
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      #3
      It's time to take the pills again nofx!

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      • chupachups
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        #4
        Originally posted by ssp
        It's time to take the pills again nofx!
        It certainly is...

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        • X37375787

          #5
          I don't think there is any point in blaming the poor bastards for what happened to them in the KZs. If they steal your home, kill your family, throw you in a camp, it is doubtful that anyone in their right mind will try a revolt or uprising. Because that would mean certain death. Many survived the camps, due to the hope and strong will.

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          • Dirty Dane
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            • Feb 2004
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            #6
            Originally posted by nofx
            i mean lets think about it...
            Have you actually thought about that someone tried it? Read the books b4 asking.

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            • pr0
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              • May 2001
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              #7
              i've spoke with some survivors...& what went on within the prisoners own social circles & camps was even more disgusting than what the nazi's did

              i'd rather not even think about it....thanks for bringing it up...now i'm ill
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              • fireorange
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                • Furious_Female
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                  #9
                  Fear can paralyze you. Malnutrition can weaken you. Who knows what kind of chemicals/gases they were exposed to. It makes me sick to think about
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                  • nofx
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                    • Nov 2002
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                    Have you actually thought about that someone tried it? Read the books b4 asking.

                    I never said they never tried or attempted. i'm asking why didnt it happen more often then it did.

                    Often times I wonder why
                    There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                    When sickness comes I must decide:
                    When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                    • X37375787

                      #11
                      this thread is dumb

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                      • benc
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                        #12
                        Its hard to say because our view of that whole situation was told through the eyes of jewish hollywood.
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                        • nofx
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Vladimir
                          this thread is dumb
                          thanks for posting in my dumb thread 3 times.

                          Often times I wonder why
                          There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                          When sickness comes I must decide:
                          When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                          • TheGoldenChild
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                            #14
                            you are a retard

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                            • mrthumbs
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                              #15
                              People in groups become sheep and have 0 will.

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                              • candyflip
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                                • NTSS
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                                  #17
                                  That's a cheap shot....maybe if you had been there it would help you to gain a better perspective.
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                                  • 2HousePlague
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by benc
                                    Its hard to say because our view of that whole situation was told through the eyes of jewish hollywood.
                                    Perhaps. But to expect that civilians who've been abducted, raped, starved and miscellaneously terrorized for months should overpower their armed, well-fed, well-rested, organized captors and "Shoot their way outta Auschwitz! " is what sounds like Hollywood fantasy to me --


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                                    • pr0
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                                      • May 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Gas Chamber is horrible for about 15 seconds

                                      Put a biscuit in front of 30 starved people, or between 2 groups in a camp, & see how long that riot ensues

                                      Trust me, far worse things happened within themselves at the camps....make the show OZ look like a joke.
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                                      • Machete_
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by nofx
                                        i mean lets think about it...

                                        was it malnutrition? fear? cowardliness? clinging on to that hope of "being rescued"?

                                        fucking come on, you see/hear a group of people leave to go 'get showers or get de-liced' and they never come back? obviously people are dying and being killed all around you and your fate is going to be the same.

                                        so I must ask, why didnt they all just rise up and start fucking shit up and killing guards/anyone? they were going to die anyways, why not die with pride and honor and take out some bastard germans with you. you know you're going to die some ill fate in the camp, why not try to do what you can while you're still alive.

                                        yet they just allowed themselves to be controlled like sheep
                                        writing shit like that makes me think one of tree is correct about you:

                                        1 - you lack the mental capacity to understand what it is to be held captive in a KZ camp

                                        2 - you get all your history information from movies.

                                        3 - you are just plain stupid

                                        Now answer this

                                        Im guessing you are from the US.
                                        Most of your people complains about your stupid president, yet you dont do anything about it. And YOU cant use "malnutrition, fear, cowardliness, clinging on to that hope of "being rescued" as an reason.. then what is is.. are you just fucking retarded or lazy?

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                                        • GiantGnome
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                                          #21
                                          actually that happened at least once. check out the movie Escape from Sobibor

                                          you are way off though calling them cowards and quitters. I bet most there never gave up hope of being resucued. fighting back was always on their minds but what do you expect them to do when all they have are sticks and stones, and the gaurds have machine guns? for every gaurd killed, 50 jews died in their place. even if you were to fight back you wouldnt be much use after not eating for 9 weeks. making plans of an excape would have been nearly impossible to keep with trustees bunking with you. these trustees were traitor jews who were rewarded for turning in one of his own country men, towns people and even friend.
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                                          • pr0
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                                            #22
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                                            • Mike Okitch
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                                              #23


                                              Shut up and get a clue. People weakened and malnourished can hardly lift their arms, nevermind fight. That's without talking about the fact that the Germans where armed and the prisoners weren't.
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                                              • OG LennyT
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by nofx
                                                I mean lets think about it...

                                                yet they just allowed themselves to be controlled like sheep
                                                The Germans had been putting out anti-Jew propoganda for almost fifty years before the Holocaust. By the time the Nazis were firmly in place and started implementing their 'masterplan' the Euro-Jews, in general, were a very demoralized people.

                                                By the time the Jews started 'going to the showers' they had already been living in ghettos in poverty... an uprising surely had to have been out of the question.
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                                                • Dirty Dane
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by nofx
                                                  I never said they never tried or attempted. i'm asking why didnt it happen more often then it did.
                                                  The ones who survived, did it because they were strong enough to survive by working inside and outside the camps. The sick people (non-workers) got executed, and could not resist at all because of their weakness.

                                                  Did you know that people voluntary gave their own life inside the camps, so there could be enough food and space for their stronger friends and kids to survive? And you call them cowards?

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                                                  • Mr.Fiction
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by benc
                                                    Its hard to say because our view of that whole situation was told through the eyes of jewish hollywood.
                                                    If only the right wing Christians were in charge of Hollywood it would be objective?
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                                                    • GiantGnome
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by benc
                                                      Its hard to say because our view of that whole situation was told through the eyes of jewish hollywood.
                                                      You dont have to watch a movie to learn what happened there. Read a history book. Better yet, find a person who was actually there. It wont be hard to find a surviver. There are many through out the world and they will be more than happy to sit down and tell you many stories.
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                                                      • TheSaint
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                                                        #28
                                                        Actually there are lots of cases of heroic jews, do you not know the story of the uprising in the warsaw ghetto? A hundred or two desperate jews with a few guns took on the entire german army and caused them a lot of grief. All the jews resisting to a last man were killed.

                                                        Its actually quite a stupid question. The truth is, to the end, many in the camps just didn't know, the germans were very careful to give the jews plausable explanations - people were being sent to labor camps, etc.
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                                                        • INever
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                                                          #29
                                                          same reason...

                                                          They were cowards for the same reasons Kerry immediately conceded the 2004 election even when there was evidence of massive vote fraud and voter supression/intimidation. Human nature in the face of evil.......
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                                                          • NoCarrier
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by nofx
                                                            so I must ask, why didnt they all just rise up and start fucking shit up and killing guards/anyone?
                                                            Why? Because it takes time and organization to plot a rebellion. You need weapons and a plan. You just can't start attacking and expecting other people to follow you. And with what? Your hands?! The jews were being exterminated way before they were even being able to do something about it.

                                                            The only ones who actually had time to get weapons and organize a rebellion were the Sonderkomandos (Jews helping the nazis exterminate other jews). They were able to work a couple of months before being exterminated like the other jews.
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                                                            • GatorB
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                                                              #31
                                                              Say some jews were able to take over an entire concentratin camp. So what. Then Hitler sends in more troops and yu can be 100% sure you will die and probally in a more horrific manner. Not everyone that went to a concentration camp died. If you could be used for slave labor odds were you would not be gased.

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                                                              • tony299
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                                                                #32
                                                                man some people like to start shit storms lol

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                                                                • dig420
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by fireorange
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                                                                  yes he's wonderful. Pissing people off by mocking concentration camp victims. Maybe next he could show some vietnamese people whacking on live dogs before they eat them. You know, something original and creative like that. Maybe show that russian guy getting his head chopped off. Something nobody's ever thought of posting before.

                                                                  I suppose if you're simple minded he's pretty entertaining.
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                                                                  • reynold
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Mike Okitch


                                                                    Shut up and get a clue. People weakened and malnourished can hardly lift their arms, nevermind fight. That's without talking about the fact that the Germans where armed and the prisoners weren't.

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                                                                    • Biggy2
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by nofx
                                                                      i mean lets think about it...

                                                                      was it malnutrition? fear? cowardliness? clinging on to that hope of "being rescued"?

                                                                      fucking come on, you see/hear a group of people leave to go 'get showers or get de-liced' and they never come back? obviously people are dying and being killed all around you and your fate is going to be the same.

                                                                      so I must ask, why didnt they all just rise up and start fucking shit up and killing guards/anyone? they were going to die anyways, why not die with pride and honor and take out some bastard germans with you. you know you're going to die some ill fate in the camp, why not try to do what you can while you're still alive.

                                                                      yet they just allowed themselves to be controlled like sheep
                                                                      you disgust me. you must've been dropped on your head as a baby, or your parents did an awful job of raising you.

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                                                                      • KRL
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Cowards??? It had nothing to do with cowardice when you look like this.





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                                                                        • JD
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                                                                          #37

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                                                                          • steffie
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            My Dad was born in 1937, right smack in the middle of the KZ Dachau.. He always told me that he didn't know any different. 3 hours of wait to go to the bathroom, if you peed yourself they cut your weenie off in front of everybody. My dad was released in 1944..

                                                                            We are Gypsies and not Jews.

                                                                            The kids were mainly used for testing.. So he lived.. I guess he was not a weakling like you suggest. At least he made it,, and my Grandmother made it too. (She passed in 1987)

                                                                            But hey what do I know.. I couldn't do it. I read a lot of what my dad wrote in articles and stories over the years for the Gypsy community I grew up in. I can also guess how it had to been.

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                                                                            • smack
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              many of them did rebell, and were quickly killed.
                                                                              Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                                              • good times
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                                                                                • nofx
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                  yes he's wonderful. Pissing people off by mocking concentration camp victims. Maybe next he could show some vietnamese people whacking on live dogs before they eat them. You know, something original and creative like that. Maybe show that russian guy getting his head chopped off. Something nobody's ever thought of posting before.

                                                                                  I suppose if you're simple minded he's pretty entertaining.
                                                                                  thanks for your input, nut gobbler

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                                                                                  There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                                                                                  When sickness comes I must decide:
                                                                                  When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                                                                                  • munki
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Prison guard syndrome... It's how historically large groups of people have always been controlled by a minority force.

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                                                                                    • dig420
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by nofx
                                                                                      thanks for your input, nut gobbler
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                                                                                      • 69pornlinks
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                                                                                        • candyflip
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Coming from anyone else, it could have been a good historical discussion.

                                                                                          This is GFY though...it goes to hell in a hand basket quickly. Which is usually why these threads get started

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                                                                                          • reynold
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by nofx
                                                                                            i mean lets think about it...

                                                                                            was it malnutrition? fear? cowardliness? clinging on to that hope of "being rescued"?

                                                                                            fucking come on, you see/hear a group of people leave to go 'get showers or get de-liced' and they never come back? obviously people are dying and being killed all around you and your fate is going to be the same.

                                                                                            so I must ask, why didnt they all just rise up and start fucking shit up and killing guards/anyone? they were going to die anyways, why not die with pride and honor and take out some bastard germans with you. you know you're going to die some ill fate in the camp, why not try to do what you can while you're still alive.

                                                                                            yet they just allowed themselves to be controlled like sheep
                                                                                            Other tried and did not succeed. I wish all of them were as brave as you.

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                                                                                            • videoxpix
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              To some, maybe dying was resisting & something that they at least had an ounce of certainty in. There were many uprisings & rebellions all thought the camps & ghettos. Read a book or two.
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