The Design of the New CCBill Affiliate System, your suggestions needed!

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  • The Ghost
    IslandDollars.com
    • Oct 2004
    • 12188

    #51
    Am I the only one thinking this thread should be a permanent sticky for the next month?
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    • cybermike
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2002
      • 4121

      #52
      1. How about remove the option for the paysite owner to turn off rebills.. or have it email the affiliate if that has happened.

      2. Figure out a way to give the affiliate credit when a customer buys a cross sale within the network you are promoting
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      • s9ann0
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2001
        • 4873

        #53
        I think you should get 2 chance to get the password right before it locks you out and please make it load slower too!

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        • justsexxx
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Aug 2001
          • 13723

          #54
          THis is probably not possible but...

          Not we have so many id's...For each paysite another...Wouldn't it be possible to have one mainID....Let's say 123456

          I now wanna promote programA...I join them, and give them my mainID...

          Then they create a link for me(well ccbill does)
          www.ccbill.com/programA/123456

          Advantage is, I won't mix up ID's...(as affiliate) and program owners can easily add upsales/exits where affiliates gets credit for....

          On the accounting side...

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          • CCBill Paul
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2004
            • 1005

            #55
            Originally posted by cybermike
            1. How about remove the option for the paysite owner to turn off rebills.. or have it email the affiliate if that has happened.

            2. Figure out a way to give the affiliate credit when a customer buys a cross sale within the network you are promoting
            1. We'll certainly consider this.

            2. This is a feature already built into the system. Hit me up with an example and Ill explain it.. [email protected]
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            • OneWhoKnows
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2005
              • 873

              #56
              OK, my suggestions:

              1. Delete option for unused programs gets my vote, too.

              2. Counting of Unique Clicks, not only Raw! So, as most of the available scripts do, please distinguish between raw and unique clicks and display a sales per unique ratio.

              3. Show which site the sale has been made for, as already suggested.

              4. Ok, I know this has nothing to do with the design, but PLEASE PLEASE offer ePassporte as an additional payout option for your new affiliate system. This would be so cool, because I'm sick and tired of paying high bank fees for US$ check withdrawals (as most European webmasters using CCBill probably).

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              • LavenderLounge
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2006
                • 110

                #57
                Please make it more Mac-friendly! Last I checked, it doesn't even work with Safari. Some stats won't work with Firefox on a Mac, either.
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                • corvette
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 7880

                  #58
                  some really good suggestions here, i am impressed with some of these, keep them up please
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                  • coolegg2
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2005
                    • 210

                    #59
                    My suggestion:

                    The ability to set a different webmaster referral payout for each affiliate. Right now this cannot be customized for each affiliate - it is one number for each program. I would love to pay my affiliates with good webmaster traffic at a higher rate than the standard.

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                    • Sarah_Jayne
                      Now with more Jayne
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 40077

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Qbert

                      And an unrelated request. Please figure out how to get the checks to fold on the perforation. :D
                      Hey, it took years for the envelopes to be the right side up..things just take time

                      I kind of miss the upside down envelopes though.

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                      • crockett
                        in a van by the river
                        • May 2003
                        • 76818

                        #61
                        For god's sake add in campaigns.. and better tracking stats.

                        The more we know about where the sales come from, the easier it is to make more.. That means more money for everyone.
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                        • corvette
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 7880

                          #62
                          Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                          Hey, it took years for the envelopes to be the right side up..things just take time

                          I kind of miss the upside down envelopes though.
                          Send me your account #, ill get your check in an upside down envelope, for old times sake
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                          • QTbucks_Mark
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 254

                            #63
                            Am I the only one who thinks a graphical representation of some/all stats would be nice?
                            Something like simple graphs for clicks-/uniques-/signups-/...-per-period, so you can recognize trends by a quick glance at the chart instead of grabbing historical data and running the numbers on it.


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                            • micker
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 748

                              #64
                              universal affiliate ID's. Affiliates should have the same ID across the network regardless of the site they are promoting.

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                              • marcjacob
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 1063

                                #65
                                havent read through this thread so sorry if its been posted, all i want is nats style campaign support. i send traffic from tgp freesites and avs, tgp and freesites harm my avs site ratios. id like to be able to break the ratios down by campaigns so i could have an avs campaign, a freesite one etc.
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                                • crockett
                                  in a van by the river
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 76818

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by micker
                                  universal affiliate ID's. Affiliates should have the same ID across the network regardless of the site they are promoting.
                                  Yea that would be awesome.. They probably wouldn't be able to do it though.
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                                  • Jace
                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 35562

                                    #67
                                    I am not a program owner, but I think that giving program owners the ability to add and subtract fields from the standard affiliate sign up page would be nice

                                    like a lot of affiliate sign up forms have a "who would you like to be your account rep" field, or a "where did you find us?".....it would be cool if program owers could add in their own fields

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                                    • HomeFry
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2006
                                      • 1062

                                      #68
                                      I suggest allowing for custom Join Forms... I mean "fully" custom. You provide the vars that need to be passed to your backend, and let the webmasters do the rest.
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                                      • Jace
                                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 35562

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by HomeFry
                                        I suggest allowing for custom Join Forms... I mean "fully" custom. You provide the vars that need to be passed to your backend, and let the webmasters do the rest.
                                        that is even better than my idea...DAMN YOU!!! haha

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                                        • corvette
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 7880

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by HomeFry
                                          I suggest allowing for custom Join Forms... I mean "fully" custom. You provide the vars that need to be passed to your backend, and let the webmasters do the rest.
                                          you mean like have the webmasters collect the credit card data on their end and pass it to us?
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                                          • Sebastian Sands
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2005
                                            • 5223

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by uno
                                            Do you really need to have a new affiliate ID each time you sign up for a new program? Why not JUST your username and password instead of the need for IDs?

                                            instead of PA=Accountnumber, why not just PA=username
                                            So in all reality that would mean if you sign up for your first cc-bill based sponsorprogram you signed up to ALL of them. That's like the biggest merge ever.. but I like that. I lose all kinds of ID #'s all the time..

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                                            • Sebastian Sands
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2005
                                              • 5223

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by corvette
                                              you mean like have the webmasters collect the credit card data on their end and pass it to us?

                                              HAHAHAHA.. I will quit if that happens

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                                              • Wicked 1
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 188

                                                #73
                                                Two things I'd like to see.

                                                Hide/Remove Dead or poor performing sponsors by clickable box etc.

                                                And Epassporte Payment .

                                                Is this possible ?

                                                As paying for $30 USD for wires + $10 AUD recieve fee to avoid lost mail problems due to upside down checks that cannot be read in windowed envelopes is very expensive.

                                                Otherwise CCBILL Rocks, Still outperforming any other PPS sponsor in both better ratios and money earned with rebills for niche sponsors.

                                                Epassporte would make it damn near perfect

                                                Is this possible ?.

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                                                • corvette
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 7880

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by micker
                                                  universal affiliate ID's. Affiliates should have the same ID across the network regardless of the site they are promoting.
                                                  btw, this is in the works, and I think its a big deal, many people have been asking about doing it this way and it makes sense. We just had to wait until we were in a position to be able to rewrite the system from scratch to be able to do this, and we are at that point now

                                                  so this feature is coming
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                                                  • SubAms
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 310

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by coolegg2
                                                    My suggestion:

                                                    The ability to set a different webmaster referral payout for each affiliate. Right now this cannot be customized for each affiliate - it is one number for each program. I would love to pay my affiliates with good webmaster traffic at a higher rate than the standard.
                                                    Good point, definately needed..
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                                                    • mikesouth
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 6334

                                                      #76
                                                      you want to do something innovative?

                                                      TRY DIRECT DEPOSIT

                                                      Jesus you guys can fuck up a soup sandwich we dont need a new affiliate system we need direct deposit..
                                                      Mike South

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                                                      • RedShoe
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                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 14831

                                                        #77
                                                        fuck it. I want to resubmit my suggestion. Change your entire company's design to be red. FUCK YEAH!

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                                                        • Jace
                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 35562

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by corvette
                                                          you mean like have the webmasters collect the credit card data on their end and pass it to us?
                                                          well, it would work out better program owners had the ability to customize what is on your server.....the program owner gets to create his own unique join forms for each site instead of choosing between a few designs that you all have

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                                                          • makefuckingmoney
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 3277

                                                            #79
                                                            this could be the software of the year..ill prep the award

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                                                            • Marcus
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 3472

                                                              #80
                                                              Hi Corvette,
                                                              Off topic, I just sent you an email with a question and am posting this so you know its me who sent it. Thanks a lot.

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                                                              • bogo
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                • 1982

                                                                #81
                                                                Faster loading stats is a must.i havent been able to load stats from previous months for a while now.

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                                                                • corvette
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                  • 7880

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Jace
                                                                  well, it would work out better program owners had the ability to customize what is on your server.....the program owner gets to create his own unique join forms for each site instead of choosing between a few designs that you all have
                                                                  we have the ability to do this now, for example, check out the join form at sexkey.com

                                                                  client support should help you do this, if you are interested, ask them about custom forms
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                                                                  • corvette
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                    • 7880

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Marcus
                                                                    Hi Corvette,
                                                                    Off topic, I just sent you an email with a question and am posting this so you know its me who sent it. Thanks a lot.
                                                                    sorry for the confusion

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                                                                    • BV
                                                                      wtf
                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                      • 10914

                                                                      #84
                                                                      TRACKER ID'S for affiliates would be nice

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                                                                      • OneWhoKnows
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2005
                                                                        • 873

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Bump for this important thread!

                                                                        @corvette or Paul
                                                                        Are you thinking about alternative payout methods for the new system, or will you stick to US$ checks/US$ wires only?

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                                                                        • Varius
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                          • 6890

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by RussianRealitySites
                                                                          2. Counting of Unique Clicks, not only Raw! So, as most of the available scripts do, please distinguish between raw and unique clicks and display a sales per unique ratio.
                                                                          I knew I forgot something (I prob forgot lots hehe). I definately second this suggestion
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                                                                          • jscott
                                                                            jscizzle
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 25413

                                                                            #87
                                                                            give ccbill affiliates credit for their cross sales on the sponsor join pages, i see it tracks our ccbill affiliate id numbers but does not ever give us a split on the trials

                                                                            anyway of tracking upsells?
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                                                                            • jscott
                                                                              jscizzle
                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                              • 25413

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by cybermike
                                                                              1. How about remove the option for the paysite owner to turn off rebills.. or have it email the affiliate if that has happened.

                                                                              2. Figure out a way to give the affiliate credit when a customer buys a cross sale within the network you are promoting
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                                                                              • jollyperv
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                                • 3927

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Would be nice to not have to fill out a form for a simple update of your mailing address. Don't get me wrong, the added security for the most part is definetly a good thing.

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                                                                                • martinsc
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                                  • 27043

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  1. make it faster (less timeouts would be great...)
                                                                                  2. let us affiliates create campains
                                                                                  3. ref link tracking
                                                                                  4. epassporte payouts!!!
                                                                                  5. centralized place to get banners, links, content etc...
                                                                                  6. a nice design would be great

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                                                                                  • scottie0779
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                                    • 287

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    I was excited to see this thread, thanks Trixie for pointing it out! Not to be offensive, but ccbill is the most archaic system still running (although last time I was inside Paycom/Epoch admin/stats, which was a couple years ago, they were actually light years behind) -- which is why I'm so pleased to see changes on the horizon! Yay! Here's my .02 Any of these may already be on the plate, but here they are

                                                                                    -- Ability to do transaction lookups (mostly affiliate-side), like by last 5 digits of transaction id. I keep a running log in excel of all ACTIVE subscriptions so I have an idea when rebills are expected, and can then project anticipated income from rebills. The way I have to do this now is, run a lookup for past 30 days, and go through one by one (trial then recurring then rebills) and remove cancelled subscriptions, and add any new trials or recurrings that I may have neglected to add when the sale was actually made. Perhaps even better would be a "Display all active" tool, which would simply display (without duplicating like past lookups does) all active subscriptions from all programs for the affiliate.

                                                                                    -- MAYBE track ALL referring URLS instead of on SALES ONLY. Beautiful feature of nats, I can derive what sites are sending traffic, how much, AND how effective that traffic is. I'm sure this would likely increase the overhead due to added storage requirements on the database files, but it's pretty helpful information and something we get with the software guys (mpa3, nats)

                                                                                    NOTE: To the guys talking about site breakdown within stats remote, right-click CCBill Affiliate, select SHOW BREAKDOWN. If you were meaning breakdown of your own program account, yeah, I don't see where that's an option yet, but surely JB and the crew over there could at least let it break down by subaccount id? That'd be a stats remote update though, not CCB.

                                                                                    The other things are just simple well known issues that I assume are already being fixed and have already been mentioned, like the AGES it takes to run large historical lookups, stop the timeouts, track uniques not raws, etc.

                                                                                    Originally Posted by micker
                                                                                    universal affiliate ID's. Affiliates should have the same ID across the network regardless of the site they are promoting.
                                                                                    Thank God micker! Excellent, of course that'd royally fuck up the 100+ sponsors I already have links hanging out for in millions of places, but going forward this would be the best thing EVER!!! Glad to see it's in progress corv.

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                                                                                    • Mr. Romance
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                                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                                      • 7821

                                                                                      #92
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                                                                                      • corvette
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                        • 7880

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        lets keep this going...
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                                                                                        • BV
                                                                                          wtf
                                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                                          • 10914

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          tracker id's for affiliates

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                                                                                          • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                            Now with more Jayne
                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 40077

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            This thread is one of the best on GFY in a while because it is people that actually use a system to makes sales talking in positive terms on how to improve it rather than just throwing negatives around.

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                                                                                            • corvette
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 7880

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                              This thread is one of the best on GFY in a while because it is people that actually use a system to makes sales talking in positive terms on how to improve it rather than just throwing negatives around.
                                                                                              Right, thanks for that comment, during this architecture/discovery phase, I just want to make sure that we explore every single suggestion out there. I have a 7 page book with ideas from webmasters (special thanks to Steve Lightspeed for helping with this), but I have seen several additional good ones in this thread, maybe we can squeeze out a few more?
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                                                                                              • he-fox
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jun 2006
                                                                                                • 2884

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Not design-related, but please add Epassporte as a payment method to the system. This is what stops me for promoting CCBill only programs. I'm sure that there are so many like me.

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                                                                                                • FPSAddict
                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                                                                  • 1

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  hardcoded aff id or query_string

                                                                                                  I see this perfect world

                                                                                                  1. ccbill requests all programs to make a clean tour for affilliates
                                                                                                  (no outside links to toplists or anywhere at all).

                                                                                                  2. ccbill has a tech support helping(installing) clueless program owners to implement referal tracking using query_string. (no cookie)
                                                                                                  so I would have two link codes one for cookie tracking another with query_string tracking. If program owner does it himself the ccbill should validate it before showing it for affilliate.
                                                                                                  I would like to get a credit regardless of user's cookie settings or zango.

                                                                                                  I would prefer to have a copy of programs tour pages on my site then
                                                                                                  I could take care of everyting myself but I guess no program would allow that
                                                                                                  because they could not shave then.

                                                                                                  So in programs report I would like to see:
                                                                                                  1. This program uses query_string to track sales: yes/no
                                                                                                  2. this program allow you to host their tours: yes/no
                                                                                                  3. this program has a clean tour located at url: yes/no

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                                                                                                  • fuzebox
                                                                                                    making it rain
                                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                                    • 22353

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by fardoche27
                                                                                                    It would be nice if we could view our ccbill (site by site) stats with statremote.
                                                                                                    They added that recently... Try right-clicking on "ccbill" in your stats and choose "show breakdown" from the menu

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                                                                                                    • HarlotCash Dyker
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                      • 1828

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      There is a need for the affiliate interface to also include fhg's and other marketing tools that programmes offer (other than just banners which many affiliates don't use - )
                                                                                                      And, if new (say) fhg's had been added (say by XYZ cash) during the last time an affiliate had last checked his stats, a notice on the main stats page could then inform him - (Along with any aditional info the programme may want the affiliate to know)
                                                                                                      This would 1) insure the affiliate had this news and 2) Cut out the need to email affiliates -
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