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  • Lensman
    GFY Chaperone
    • Jan 2001
    • 9846
    #1

    .xxx - the best way to stop censorship.

    Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

    I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

    And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.
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    • polish_aristocrat
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2002
      • 40377
      #2
      Lensman has spoken.
      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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        • polish_aristocrat
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2002
          • 40377
          #3
          I still see it as a bad thing though
          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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            • FilthyRob
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2004
              • 6741
              #4
              Domain hawks are going to swoop in and buy millions the first day just to resell.
              AKA - Clubsexy

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                • Juicy D. Links
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 122992
                  #5
                  "The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx"

                  Correct or else it would all hell breaking loose

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                    • Joesho
                      want to get in shape
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 12329
                      #6
                      I think if they change it, then the flod gatess should open up again, just like a new land grab.

                      if it is a whole ne w system, then fair trade practices would deem that as the only way to go.
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                        • Doctor Dre
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 51692
                          #7
                          Exactly my thoughts about it . People are freaking out cauz they think Nazi will block all .xxx .

                          When it's ready, I'l definitly move my paysites on there . I'l keep the .coms too, but I'l use the .xxx to promote it
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                            • taibo
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2005
                              • 3720
                              #8
                              george bush looks at porn too!

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                                • JamesK2
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 6589
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                  "The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx"

                                  Correct or else it would all hell breaking loose
                                  What he said. But that probably won't happen.

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                                    • chadglni
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 6924
                                      #10
                                      If it's voluntary to put sites there I don't see them letting the .com owners get first pick. I mean a trademarked name sure, but freeporn.xxx should be up for grabs.


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                                        • chadglni
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 6924
                                          #11
                                          I understand people wanting their current domain.xxx but do all of you have your domain registered for every tld that is out there? Or do you just want to have first pick when it's a TLD you like?


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                                            • ronaldo
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 5475
                                              #12
                                              I agree with you on that point, but that's only dealing with one issue. Censorship. That's also ASSUMING they still won't censor those domains.

                                              When they start to suggest/enforce new regulations, new fees, new porn taxes and whatever the hell else they can think of to disrupt our industry, it's easy to see why this is worse than 2257.

                                              I'm not worried that many if any isp's will block the domain. I'm worried about the entire community being segregated SOLELY for the purpose of making monitoring and regulating our industry easier.

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                                                • NaughtyRob
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                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                  • 29602
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Lensman
                                                  The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs.
                                                  Very good point.
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                                                    • azguy
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                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                      • 5167
                                                      #14
                                                      I doubt they will give .com owners any priority unless they own the appropriate trademark. It will be too difficult for them to manage such transition.. ain't gonna happen IMHO.

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                                                        • Penthouse Tony
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                          • 5835
                                                          #15
                                                          So if the guy with the .com gets the .xxx what happens to the guy with .net? Is he assed out? That would suck.
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                                                            • PhillipB
                                                              Just a Simple Carpenter
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 1338
                                                              #16
                                                              You might not have ISP's block it, but think about all the colleges, companies, parents, and a thousand other organizations that would block it on the client side. Traffic would be cut in half.

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                                                                • Tango
                                                                  Let's Tango!
                                                                  • Apr 2005
                                                                  • 1570
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                  Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

                                                                  I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

                                                                  And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.
                                                                  I am in 100% agreement - as long as I have first crack at what I worked my ass of to buy, trade, etc.. then I have no problem other than the sky-high price that they want to put on the registration fees
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                                                                    • BVF
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                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 13975
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                      Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

                                                                      I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

                                                                      And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.
                                                                      yeah but you're forgetting about people who will still want to censor pornography because they think it's obscene...

                                                                      xxx will do NOTHING to get the heat off.

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                                                                        • chadglni
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 6924
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                                                          So if the guy with the .com gets the .xxx what happens to the guy with .net? Is he assed out? That would suck.
                                                                          Everyone is speaking as if the tld is going to launch as mandatory. It's not. It should open up like every other damn tld and first come first serve.


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                                                                            • jf2404
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                              • 657
                                                                              #20
                                                                              This is what a guy at ICM Registry said in an e-mail to me.

                                                                              We will be expecting names to go on General Sale to members of the Community in the 4th Quarter of 2005.

                                                                              Prior to that there will be a period whereby potential registrants that have Intellectual Property interests in specific names can come forward to register that interest in those names and such names will be equitably allocated and subject to a recognized dispute resolution policy , where more than one party makes a claim over a particular domain name.

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                                                                                • chadglni
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 6924
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Tango
                                                                                  I am in 100% agreement - as long as I have first crack at what I worked my ass of to buy, trade, etc.. then I have no problem other than the sky-high price that they want to put on the registration fees
                                                                                  I busted my ass branding a targetted .net. So I'm just fucked because someone else gets first dibs since they got .com? Ha, hell no.


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                                                                                    • The Sultan Of Smut
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                      • 4325
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      As long as there is enforcement for all the sites using .net and .org (all the other ones other than porn that aren't using the tld the way it was meant).
                                                                                      Last edited by The Sultan Of Smut; 06-03-2005, 08:26 AM.

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                                                                                        • Shoehorn!
                                                                                          Die With Your Boots On
                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                          • 22872
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                          The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.
                                                                                          Thats the key I think. Has this type of thing been addressed at all?

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                                                                                            • MichaelP
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                              • 7123
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by ronaldo
                                                                                              I agree with you on that point, but that's only dealing with one issue. Censorship. That's also ASSUMING they still won't censor those domains.

                                                                                              When they start to suggest/enforce new regulations, new fees, new porn taxes and whatever the hell else they can think of to disrupt our industry, it's easy to see why this is worse than 2257.

                                                                                              I'm not worried that many if any isp's will block the domain. I'm worried about the entire community being segregated SOLELY for the purpose of making monitoring and regulating our industry easier.
                                                                                              Good point Ron...

                                                                                              Nothing can stop Gov in few years, from asking tons of annual fees to maintain your .xxx domain as a hidden tax...

                                                                                              Big guys will pay it anyway, so why they (the gov) shouldn't do that... Smaller guys will let their domains goes, up to grab from big guys who will be bale to pay the big fees....

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                                                                                                • The Sultan Of Smut
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                                  • 4325
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Actually I'm against it. If people/parents are too ingnorant/cheap/lazy to buy filtering software then they can fuck off.

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                                                                                                    • chadglni
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                      • 6924
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by jf2404
                                                                                                      This is what a guy at ICM Registry said in an e-mail to me.

                                                                                                      We will be expecting names to go on General Sale to members of the Community in the 4th Quarter of 2005.

                                                                                                      Prior to that there will be a period whereby potential registrants that have Intellectual Property interests in specific names can come forward to register that interest in those names and such names will be equitably allocated and subject to a recognized dispute resolution policy , where more than one party makes a claim over a particular domain name.
                                                                                                      How they handle this aspect of it is going to be a big deal. If they give out keyword.xxx just because someone has keyword.com it's going to be a shitstorm.


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                                                                                                        • Dalai lama
                                                                                                          Strength and Honor
                                                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                                                          • 16540
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                                          And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.
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                                                                                                            • BillyHoe
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                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                              • 2214
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by APN Philip
                                                                                                              You might not have ISP's block it, but think about all the colleges, companies, parents, and a thousand other organizations that would block it on the client side. Traffic would be cut in half.
                                                                                                              i agree

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                                                                                                                • webair
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                  • 8531
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I don't think that could ever happen...giving .xxx names to current .com registrants would be so much work for them...good idea though.


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                                                                                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                      • 13449
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I agree with you Lens.....as long as I can own all the .xxx's to match the .com's I currently own I won't have a problem with it.

                                                                                                                      Plus if the gov't forces us to move to .xxx then they're acknowledging that we exist and have a right to publish our content on the web
                                                                                                                      sig too big

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                                                                                                                        • Nismo
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                                                          • 4977
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I'm still trying to understand how it is supposed to protect children.
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                                                                                                                            • LeeNoga
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                              • 3043
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              I agree with all the above, this is gonna open a ton of lawsuits, and who knows maybe legally break the new .XXX owners...next thing you know Acacia will buy out this registrar and the .XXX will sue the .COM owners for trademark issues.

                                                                                                                              The only way this would work is to make it voluntary and make the .XXX a grabfest and not give .com owners entitlements.

                                                                                                                              I don't see any precedence for this with the other TLD's.

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                                                                                                                                • Trax
                                                                                                                                  [----------------------]
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 14486
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  ok
                                                                                                                                  so lets say I own pussy.org making me lots of money each month
                                                                                                                                  and I'm being forced to move away to .xxx
                                                                                                                                  what domain should I use?? pussy.xxx
                                                                                                                                  nah.
                                                                                                                                  based on your comment that domain will be owned by pussy.com
                                                                                                                                  now... am I fucked or not??

                                                                                                                                  what you assume is not going to work
                                                                                                                                  just my two cents

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                                                                                                                                    • pxxx
                                                                                                                                      First African GFY Member
                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 12114
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Sounds like a strategy to me.

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                                                                                                                                        • chadglni
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 6924
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                                                                          ok
                                                                                                                                          so lets say I own pussy.org making me lots of money each month
                                                                                                                                          and I'm being forced to move away to .xxx
                                                                                                                                          what domain should I use?? pussy.xxx
                                                                                                                                          nah.
                                                                                                                                          based on your comment that domain will be owned by pussy.com
                                                                                                                                          now... am I fucked or not??

                                                                                                                                          what you assume is not going to work
                                                                                                                                          just my two cents
                                                                                                                                          Exactly. Pussy is a commonly used word. It can't be trademarked. It should not be given to anyone before the tld is open to the public.


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                                                                                                                                            • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 40377
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                                                                              ok
                                                                                                                                              so lets say I own pussy.org making me lots of money each month
                                                                                                                                              and I'm being forced to move away to .xxx
                                                                                                                                              what domain should I use?? pussy.xxx
                                                                                                                                              nah.
                                                                                                                                              based on your comment that domain will be owned by pussy.com
                                                                                                                                              now... am I fucked or not??

                                                                                                                                              what you assume is not going to work
                                                                                                                                              just my two cents
                                                                                                                                              Gary Kremen, the owner of Sex.com, already trademarked.... pussy.xxx
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                                                                                                                                                • azguy
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                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                  • 5167
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Someone needs to register DotXXXWar.com

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                                                                                                                                                    • TheSwed
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 3483
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I don't think any from out side U.S will like it.We still believe in the peoples freedom here

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                                                                                                                                                        • Cassie
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                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 3139
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          i said this a while ago, catagorizing adult would be a first step in regulating this industry in a positive direction.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Peaches
                                                                                                                                                                  Old broad
                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 13933
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I find it interesting that people think the .com folks should get it first. I daresay there are several adult companies which own the .net and don't have the .com (cashquest is an example).

                                                                                                                                                                  And as others have mentioned, some VERY good .com domains aren't trademarked words, so why should .com OR .net owners get first dibs?

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                                                                                                                                                                    • chadglni
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 6924
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Also, what about the tld's for other countries? They'll all be fighting over the same .xxx urls as the .com and .net owners and everyone else that has a tld for that word or phrase. Completely irresponsible if they did it as some suggest.


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                                                                                                                                                                        • Trax
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 14486
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          thats a problem of mine
                                                                                                                                                                          I'm always right...

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                                                                                                                                                                            • pussyluver
                                                                                                                                                                              Clueless OleMan
                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 11009
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              So now we're all on .xxx TLD. Very easy to pull the plug on all of us then.

                                                                                                                                                                              Then there are sites in the grey area. Art or porn? Educational or porn? Medical or porn? Regards Lee or porn?

                                                                                                                                                                              The ACLU would have a problem with the concept I believe. I think it violates US 1st amendment rights. Could work on as a TLD on a volunteer basis though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • brand0n
                                                                                                                                                                                  been very busy
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 26983
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  well

                                                                                                                                                                                  i own adult.xxx and if you think im just going to hand it over on a silver platter, well... im sure you get where im comming from.

                                                                                                                                                                                  same goes with men.xxx, sex.xxx and juicydlinks.xxx
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • chadglni
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 6924
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                                                                                                                      I find it interesting that people think the .com folks should get it first. I daresay there are several adult companies which own the .net and don't have the .com (cashquest is an example).

                                                                                                                                                                                      And as others have mentioned, some VERY good .com domains aren't trademarked words, so why should .com OR .net owners get first dibs?
                                                                                                                                                                                      I've responded like 10 times cause this really pissed me off. They shouldn't get first dibs plain and simple. How many tlds are there in the world now?


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                                                                                                                                                                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 40377
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Fact is that there are no easy answers on how the domains should be given out.

                                                                                                                                                                                          If the extension stays voluntary, then why should f.e. Lensman get adult.xxx?
                                                                                                                                                                                          Does Lensman own adult.info, adult.net, adult.org etc? Nope.

                                                                                                                                                                                          ( just an example, don't ban me, j/k )

                                                                                                                                                                                          The fact that .com owners want their domains in .xxx is based on the assumption and risk that it could happen that this new extension will be mandatory.

                                                                                                                                                                                          How about when there are two different paysites, as f.e younbporn.com and youngporn.net? The .net in this case is the bigger and more established paysite, so they would lose big time if they wouldnt get youngporn.xxx.

                                                                                                                                                                                          But hey, do they have a trademark for it? If not, then it's possible that any of us will be able to get youngporn.xxx ;)


                                                                                                                                                                                          One more thing, is connected with multiple trademarks for the same name, or trademarks made already especially for the new names, like the pussy.xxx trademark, lol.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Or how about sites that don't own a tradermark? Is f.e sleazydream trademarked? If not, then I could be theoretically be able to get sleazydream.xxx, although I could possibly still lose it in court later.

                                                                                                                                                                                          As Lensman said, we can expect many lawsuits.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Last edited by polish_aristocrat; 06-03-2005, 08:44 AM.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • jf2404
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 657
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                                                                                                                                              well

                                                                                                                                                                                              i own adult.xxx and if you think im just going to hand it over on a silver platter, well... im sure you get where im comming from.

                                                                                                                                                                                              same goes with men.xxx, sex.xxx and juicydlinks.xxx

                                                                                                                                                                                              lol, i hope your joking .

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jman
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Already an AI veteran
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 22834
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  -------------------------

                                                                                                                                                                                                  At 60 bucks a domain it's a great way to enforce every adult company with .com's to have to spend all that money just to change there names to .xxx

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