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Old 10-09-2006, 12:10 PM  
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Please provide data to back up your statement. There are 70 million guns in the USA, if the owners went looney at some time during their lives, I'd like to see your data on it. There would be alot of dead motherfuckers.
There are approx 11,500 deaths by firearms each year in the US - many times more than all other recorded countries in total. (The data on this is widely recorded.) On child deaths alone, there are approx 3500 for a country that, for example, has a population twice that of Japan. How many child deaths occur in Japan as a result of firearms each year? None.

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Let's see why it's easy to blame the shooters... A GUN DOES NOT FIRE ITSELF. I'm tired of reading about abuse here, seeking revenge there, it's a scapegoat for responsiblity, in this case, this boy's parents.
Sure... keep hearing the arguement that a gun does not fire itself - people fire them. Following that thread, it suggests an element of people, at some time or other don't need to be in possession of firearms - they are out of control.

Agree totally that parents bear a responsibilty - they are often the first in the firing line for condemnation when an incident occurs. However anyone, whether a child or otherwise, can obtain a weapon if they so wish - and for whatever legitimate or otherwise purpose. Bottom line - live with a gun culture and pay the price - tho under these circumstances there can also be more positive results in the fact that a gun is a method of protection. It's almost a vicious circle.

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Stop trying to offset responsiblity. It is not my fault this kid's parents could not control their kid.

A responsible gun owner in the United States, namely Florida does not go off shooting in schools. You have twice as much chance being attacked fatally by an aligator in florida, than being shot by a Concealed Licensed Firearm Owner.
If it is elected to have a gun culture - a society does pay a price for that. It's a very simple issue. No person on this planet can be assured of being "responsible" in the handling of weapons thru the timescale they may possess a weapon. Florida is no different to anywhere else. There is every chance a school shooting can happen in Florida - just wait a few weeks.

Another indicator of assessibility of guns to children - one survey of around 3000 children across the US resulted in findings that 60ish percent could access a weapon in a short time if they so wished. This suggests there is a core underlying problem??

Overall.. if folks have guns, they may use them - for whatever purpose. In a way it's like purveying the concept of "national security" when, in reality, it will not stop any determined attacker.
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