you also think it makes sense to post that you got fucked out of $250 by digi when he refused to pay to an agreed price for a cartoon, even though you made 7k for 1/2 a job that got shelved and 2 cartoons.
not a personal attack, you do cool work, just an opinion on business practice.
i wouldnt mind once in awhile getting paid in full, up front, then the client shelving it halfway into the project. easy money.
You threatened to call off your referal ?
I don't want referals from someone that plays that way bro .
Excellent, we have a deal, i dont want to refer my clients to someone
who dont care, dont apreciate the referal, and dont act like a business man.
I never asked any % comission for my clients , i sent them direct to you ,and the best thing you can tell to me its fuck you. Seriously, you need some manners if nothing else ...
If you can afford 44,95$, i strongly suggest you to buy this book , it will help you allot i think. Book
First I think you need to get that book, you say "ive done these two toons to settle the debt" then you sell one of them. Second, when someones pays you money like that, you work your ass off, do what you can and wait for more work or what its gonna take to finsh, no fucking around! I work every fucking holliday weekend and soo on and it pisses me off to see guys making a ton of money doing dick shit. Im not saying its not bad to take a day off but no more that one or two when work is waiting to be done. You finish what needs to be done first!
Excellent, we have a deal, i dont want to refer my clients to someone
who dont care, dont apreciate the referal, and dont act like a business man.
I never asked any % comission for my clients , i sent them direct to you ,and the best thing you can tell to me its fuck you. Seriously, you need some manners if nothing else ...
If you can afford 44,95$, i strongly suggest you to buy this book , it will help you allot i think. Book
I hope you are using your amazon referal code, you will sell a ton of copies tonight
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First I think you need to get that book, you say "ive done these two toons to settle the debt" then you sell one of them. Second, when someones pays you money like that, you work your ass off, do what you can and wait for more work or what its gonna take to finsh, no fucking around! I work every fucking holliday weekend and soo on and it pisses me off to see guys making a ton of money doing dick shit. Im not saying its not bad to take a day off but no more that one or two when work is waiting to be done. You finish what needs to be done first!
Just my
You can't read either .. so your life is probally alot tougher .
I didnt sell any of the toons that were supposed to settle the deal .
I sold the one he ordered AFTER THE TWO THAT SETTLED THE DEAL that he refused to pay for .
As for the rest of your post ..... read the thread bud .
He ordered in September .
Finally got his shit together on DECEMBER 12TH and expected me to just drop everything I had booked for Xmas to do his shit from 4 months earlier ?
Get a clue .
I did however at Xmas do 2 TGP designs with a toon for mark Free of charge as well , that I had forgotten about till I was re-reading logs today .
That hasn't been mentioned yet .
So he got 2 tgps also to ' help finish this up '
What do you guys expect ? Cause he sent me his $$ and couldnt get a goddammed thing together I'm supposed to let him Slowly take anything he wants forever ?
HE said the toons would finish it ..
I did the toons .
He ordered More ..
He said FUCK YOU when I asked for payment ..
Think I look like a dick ?
I really don't give a fuck any more .
BTW guys .. look above ,
He said , do these 2 toons and I'll drop everything , ( SO I FUCKING DID )
Then He ORDERED THIS ONE OFFERING CASH < CAUSE I WAS CLEAR ON MY DEAL AS HE STATED ABOVE >
READ FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE
thats funny it seems you dont even know your own bullshit anymore, acording to your post the toon you sold was one of the toons that was supposed to settle it
thats funny it seems you dont even know your own bullshit anymore, acording to your post the toon you sold was one of the toons that was supposed to settle it
I posted them in the wrong order ..
big deal bro .
on a serious note, those designs are normally $250?
Hit me up bro .
154533328 wanna chat with you for a sec .
the answer is no they are not .
a Single character is usually $175 but currently on special for $125 .
A Toon with 2 characters goes for $250 give or take depending on detail .
Marc offered $250 for the Hypno toon cause he needed it in a rush , I delivered the initial preview within 24 hours of him asking for it .
Hit me up bro .
154533328 wanna chat with you for a sec .
the answer is no they are not .
a Single character is usually $175 but currently on special for $125 .
A Toon with 2 characters goes for $250 give or take depending on detail .
Marc offered $250 for the Hypno toon cause he needed it in a rush , I delivered the initial preview within 24 hours of him asking for it .
Hit me up bro .
154533328 wanna chat with you for a sec .
the answer is no they are not .
a Single character is usually $175 but currently on special for $125 .
A Toon with 2 characters goes for $250 give or take depending on detail .
Marc offered $250 for the Hypno toon cause he needed it in a rush , I delivered the initial preview within 24 hours of him asking for it .
The problem with making a bulk deal and not being able to finsh it within a scheduled time frame (due to the client or not) is that it fucks up your schedule for other clients.
WOW...whatta long thread, this tires my eyes, anyway ive got no beef to any of u...but then i have talked to mark for few times only but i know he's a good & decent guy. if i were the designer, id rather offer the last TOON for free in addition to the other 2 TOONS which have been said to be the last resort to settle the debt. it seems that i get enough money from the 7k upfront for almost half done project...well it think its pretty much fair enough. id rather not bring on board & slam anybody else accusing him to be a thieft wherein in fact the upfront money had given a LOT of help already even the project has not been fully done. well i think, only if u have talked to him the most courteous way possible, u might have settled this problem already out of the board with still the same respect for each other. yah know its just a matter of respect & understanding, who else will help the other peeps in the biz but of course only those who are from the biz too. to both of u guys, this is not a hopeless case to work things out...be brave & talk to each other like a MAN, (just my 2 cents)
if you get payed 7K up front for something and do not have to do all the work for what ever reson, refund some of the money you did not earn. Now if they want to have you finish latter, cool. But true they can't expect you to drop everything and rush over a frigging holiday to do what you should have had plunty of time to do earlyer.
all that said, bitching over some cartoons that don't look that totaly well done, in light of you didn't have to do all the work for the 7k is just childish.
Hit me up bro .
154533328 wanna chat with you for a sec .
the answer is no they are not .
a Single character is usually $175 but currently on special for $125 .
A Toon with 2 characters goes for $250 give or take depending on detail .
Marc offered $250 for the Hypno toon cause he needed it in a rush , I delivered the initial preview within 24 hours of him asking for it .
Damn, then I am getting them cheap. $50 per cartoon from an awsome guy.
if you get payed 7K up front for something and do not have to do all the work for what ever reson, refund some of the money you did not earn. Now if they want to have you finish latter, cool. But true they can't expect you to drop everything and rush over a frigging holiday to do what you should have had plunty of time to do earlyer.
all that said, bitching over some cartoons that don't look that totaly well done, in light of you didn't have to do all the work for the 7k is just childish.
i agree on this one
if i go to the store and buy a 7k tv, pay upfront, but they need to see my passport for ID and i dont have one, and i come back 2 months later when i finally have it and show them, they wont say, hey, cant give you your 7k tv, because it was two months ago. What they WILL say is: are you finally fucking here to pick up your damn tv?!
on another note, if i was to come the night before christmas and the store is closed, so i cant pick up my tv, i simply have to wait till after xmas.
if you both would understand that this is reality, there wouldn't have been a fight...
And if you cant deliver you pay back what you owe them, no matter how long ago it is, no matter how many reason you can come up with to believe for yourself that you have the right to keep that money...... if you take 7k, and not finish the job, then you are the thief. simple as that.
and on the other hand... mark, im sure you are reasonable enough to understand you cant expect somebody to deliver the night before xmas
i know mark for a long time already and he is solid, simple as that
to me its simple, if i order a tv for 7k and am not getting it, the store owner is a thief... whats hard to understand about that?
2 months later I got the content sorted out and asked him to continue. He basically refused with comments like ?I cant afford to? ?its like I am doing it for free now cause I already spent the money? etc etc
Idiot - how the fuck can you expect a bulk rate, and then stop the project in the middle, and then expect it to continue?... its your job to make sure the content is ready.. you fucked it up yourself !
if i go to the store and buy a 7k tv, pay upfront, but they need to see my passport for ID and i dont have one, and i come back 2 months later when i finally have it and show them, they wont say, hey, cant give you your 7k tv, because it was two months ago. What they WILL say is: are you finally fucking here to pick up your damn tv?!
actually, I think you have like 30 days to pick it up or some shit like that.. hahaha
And if you cant deliver you pay back what you owe them, no matter how long ago it is, no matter how many reason you can come up with to believe for yourself that you have the right to keep that money...... if you take 7k, and not finish the job, then you are the thief. simple as that.
Best Thing Said So Far, Fuck if anyone disagrees with that then In my mind your a fucking moron!
Sitting through a scene and watching all the intricacies of the entire process and then discussing it later sneaking as much information as possible with bad intent is another thing entirely. He knows he's wrong, and is still doing it.
I'm not going to even get into how many ideas were copied from me and I never even got credit for them.
Anyway i have learned everyone will fuck you when it comes to money even your so called friends in this biz.
I have helped like 5 big programs out there I'm not going to name them. but lets just say Never again unless I have everything in writing with my shares.
Live and learn it's a doggie dogg business like all others.
It IS such a beautiful day out eh
Hope everyone is enjoying this nice weather!
edit: forgot to log out of mgk's screenname, sorry all this is pink in the middle here
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