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  • p1mpdogg
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Nov 2002
    • 16714
    #1

    Epic Cash moves to its own merch acct!!!!!!!!!!!

    I will personally guarantee that we will double our sales and make our webmasters double. details will be disclosed shortly on the new3 changes made in the best intrest of Epic Cash and our webmasters so we all make more... look for our newsletter very soon. possibly late today
    A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!
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    • justsexxx
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Aug 2001
      • 13723
      #2
      SO you are getting 50% denials now from your cascade billing structure? Strange...That is pretty high.
      Questions?

      ICQ: 125184542

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        • xclusive
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Apr 2004
          • 35218
          #3
          Thats awesome p1mpdogg I hope to see a lot more money from you guys now

          I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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            • TheDoc
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              • Jul 2001
              • 13827
              #4
              I had heard through the grapevine that 15% more sales is normal on your own merchant account. The biggest difference was things became steady, rather than bouncing all over the place. But, if your CB's are low, you could adjust your personal scrub to increase sales slowly.
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                • brand0n
                  been very busy
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 26983
                  #5
                  congrads, just carefull with those chargebacks
                  want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                    • Ice
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 26053
                      #6
                      nice on Trey.... good job
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                        • Fetish
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 823
                          #7
                          Having your own merchant account through Netbilling is the only way to go IMO. Are you using them too? We have for a long time now and have excellent conversions.
                          Last edited by Fetish; 06-01-2005, 08:18 AM.

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                            • Manowar
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                              • Dec 2003
                              • 71528
                              #8
                              sweet!. everyone go sign up

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                                • BVF
                                  Black Vagina Finder
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 13975
                                  #9
                                  Hey what corporate name does epiccash use on their checks? I don't remember ever seeing a check from epiccash and I've had some banners up for a couple of months now. HOwever, I get checks from unknown corporate names and one of them could be you.

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                                    • Fetish
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                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 823
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                      I had heard through the grapevine that 15% more sales is normal on your own merchant account. The biggest difference was things became steady, rather than bouncing all over the place. But, if your CB's are low, you could adjust your personal scrub to increase sales slowly.
                                      You are absolutely correct

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                                        • Nicky
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                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 30071
                                          #11
                                          sounds good Trey

                                          gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                            • chadglni
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                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 6924
                                              #12
                                              Personal merchant accounts rock for this business and definatly pad the bottom line.


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                                                • p1mpdogg
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                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 16714
                                                  #13
                                                  we use netbilling


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                                                    • Lace
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                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 16116
                                                      #14
                                                      Good shit Trey. Hope it works out for the better.
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                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                          • 16015
                                                          #15
                                                          I'm certainly all for merchant accounts, after all, I do write them -- doubling your sales without doubling your traffic by changing to a merchant account isn't realistic though.

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                                                            • chadglni
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                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 6924
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                              I'm certainly all for merchant accounts, after all, I do write them -- doubling your sales without doubling your traffic by changing to a merchant account isn't realistic though.

                                                              Perhaps if he quits redirecting his foreign traffic to a dialer and sends them through the new system instead? I know when I push cams a huge number of signups come from countries that can't use a credit card through the IPSPs.


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                                                                • stev0
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                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                  • 6801
                                                                  #17
                                                                  that's awsome news man!

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                                                                    • SplitInfinity
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 3047
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Good Move Trey! Thats gonna be a breadwinning move.
                                                                      :-)

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                                                                        • Furious_Male
                                                                          Doing the grind since 99
                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                          • 16884
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Sounds real good. I will bring my dormant account out of hiding for this and send you guys some traffic.
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                                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 34515
                                                                              #20
                                                                              How do you find the transactions are compared to going through Epoch or another IPSP?
                                                                              WG
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                                                                                • Kimmykim
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                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by chadglni
                                                                                  Perhaps if he quits redirecting his foreign traffic to a dialer and sends them through the new system instead? I know when I push cams a huge number of signups come from countries that can't use a credit card through the IPSPs.
                                                                                  Actually the last time I checked, the number of banned countries with Paycom and CCBill were a little over 30 each, with most of them being the same. And for very good reason... some countries are chargeback nightmares -- and doubling your sales while doubling (or worse) your chargebacks isn't necessarily a gain overall when you take into account chargeback limits and the fine potentials.

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                                                                                    • Donny
                                                                                      As you wish...
                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                      • 13754
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      As one person already asked, will you be using netbilling?

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                                                                                        • Donny
                                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                          • 13754
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                          we use netbilling


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                                                                                          I should have hit "refresh" before asking. LOL

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                                                                                            • BradShaw
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                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 7840
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              IMHO there is a reason so few big programs use their own merchant accounts. Few can do it sucessfully, I know I have always steered away from it. If you guys can pull it off, hats off to you.
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                                                                                                • chadglni
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                  • 6924
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                  Actually the last time I checked, the number of banned countries with Paycom and CCBill were a little over 30 each, with most of them being the same. And for very good reason... some countries are chargeback nightmares -- and doubling your sales while doubling (or worse) your chargebacks isn't necessarily a gain overall when you take into account chargeback limits and the fine potentials.
                                                                                                  Hmmm, ok. I don't have a ton of experience with 3rd party billers but my ratios were always much worse. I always heard it was "scrub". :/


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                                                                                                    • Kimmykim
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                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                      • 16015
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by chadglni
                                                                                                      Hmmm, ok. I don't have a ton of experience with 3rd party billers but my ratios were always much worse. I always heard it was "scrub". :/
                                                                                                      I realize everyone always wants to blame it on the scrub, but that doesn't really make sense if you look at it.

                                                                                                      When does a processor (be it third party or gateway) make money? On the % they take when you process a transaction. If you aren't processing transactions, then they aren't making money on you.

                                                                                                      NO processor that I know of (and I do know the IPSPs rather well) wants to turn down good transactions. They don't profit from that at all.

                                                                                                      What they do want, which isn't rocket science, is the largest number of transactions that fall into certain risk parameters that they can get their hands on in a given time period.

                                                                                                      There's also a reason that certain countries are banned from certain processors. It's called risk management. If you have a history of certain countries or BINs being nothing but trouble, why on earth would you risk those countries -- which make such a minor portion of the sales, causing you to incur fines of $50 to $100 PER CHARGEBACK on ALL chargebacks?

                                                                                                      You don't let a few bad apples spoil the lot, you cull them out and make a pie from the good apples.

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                                                                                                        • NETbilling
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                          • 8598
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                                          IMHO there is a reason so few big programs use their own merchant accounts. Few can do it sucessfully, I know I have always steered away from it. If you guys can pull it off, hats off to you.
                                                                                                          Brad,

                                                                                                          Actually, there are more and more "large programs" using their own merchant accounts more now, than in the past several years. We are here to help them manage them successfully. And once you finally do, you will see the difference too. I'm not knocking 3rd party at all but their comes a time where many business owners want to "take control" of their money. With the tools and services that we offer, you can easily achieve that control and increase your bottom line. Merchants are smart enough these days to be responsible with their merchant accounts, keep the scrub levels where they should be and provide quality content, while providing good customer service or having us (or another gateway/call center) do it for them.

                                                                                                          Mitch


                                                                                                          Mitch Farber
                                                                                                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                            • Donny
                                                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                                              • 13754
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                              I realize everyone always wants to blame it on the scrub, but that doesn't really make sense if you look at it.

                                                                                                              When does a processor (be it third party or gateway) make money? On the % they take when you process a transaction. If you aren't processing transactions, then they aren't making money on you.

                                                                                                              NO processor that I know of (and I do know the IPSPs rather well) wants to turn down good transactions. They don't profit from that at all.

                                                                                                              What they do want, which isn't rocket science, is the largest number of transactions that fall into certain risk parameters that they can get their hands on in a given time period.

                                                                                                              There's also a reason that certain countries are banned from certain processors. It's called risk management. If you have a history of certain countries or BINs being nothing but trouble, why on earth would you risk those countries -- which make such a minor portion of the sales, causing you to incur fines of $50 to $100 PER CHARGEBACK on ALL chargebacks?

                                                                                                              You don't let a few bad apples spoil the lot, you cull them out and make a pie from the good apples.

                                                                                                              Oh for God's sake stop making sense! This is GFY!

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                                                                                                                • chadglni
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                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                  • 6924
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                                  Oh for God's sake stop making sense! This is GFY!
                                                                                                                  Well let me make a little sense. For WHATEVER the reason may be, I make more money sending to companies with their own merchant accounts. It really doesn't matter the reason but I can't go from good conversions to shitty conversions on the same type of site and be expected to keep sending traffic.


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                                                                                                                    • BradShaw
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                      • 7840
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      We have considering trying it out. First time we were turned down, next time they wanted too much paperwork including a full personal financial statement.
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                                                                                                                        • Terry
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                          • 1604
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          That is GREAT news! Congrats!
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                                                                                                                            • ArkansasDave
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                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                              • 2148
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Nice work guys!
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                                                                                                                                • chowda
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                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 9527
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                                                  Brad,

                                                                                                                                  Actually, there are more and more "large programs" using their own merchant accounts more now, than in the past several years. We are here to help them manage them successfully. And once you finally do, you will see the difference too. I'm not knocking 3rd party at all but their comes a time where many business owners want to "take control" of their money. With the tools and services that we offer, you can easily achieve that control and increase your bottom line. Merchants are smart enough these days to be responsible with their merchant accounts, keep the scrub levels where they should be and provide quality content, while providing good customer service or having us (or another gateway/call center) do it for them.

                                                                                                                                  Mitch
                                                                                                                                  do u guys process in euros and can handle switch solo uk debit cards?
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                                                                                                                                    • D-Money
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 9716
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                                                      Brad,

                                                                                                                                      Actually, there are more and more "large programs" using their own merchant accounts more now, than in the past several years. We are here to help them manage them successfully. And once you finally do, you will see the difference too. I'm not knocking 3rd party at all but their comes a time where many business owners want to "take control" of their money. With the tools and services that we offer, you can easily achieve that control and increase your bottom line. Merchants are smart enough these days to be responsible with their merchant accounts, keep the scrub levels where they should be and provide quality content, while providing good customer service or having us (or another gateway/call center) do it for them.

                                                                                                                                      Mitch
                                                                                                                                      I've only heard great things about Netbilling.
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                                                                                                                                        • NETbilling
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 8598
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                                                                          We have considering trying it out. First time we were turned down, next time they wanted too much paperwork including a full personal financial statement.
                                                                                                                                          Since it is your merchant account, the bank is taking risk on you. When you have a high volume account, you must back it up with financials. It is what it is.


                                                                                                                                          Mitch


                                                                                                                                          Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                                          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                                                            • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 16015
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                                                              Brad,

                                                                                                                                              Actually, there are more and more "large programs" using their own merchant accounts more now, than in the past several years. We are here to help them manage them successfully. And once you finally do, you will see the difference too. I'm not knocking 3rd party at all but their comes a time where many business owners want to "take control" of their money. With the tools and services that we offer, you can easily achieve that control and increase your bottom line. Merchants are smart enough these days to be responsible with their merchant accounts, keep the scrub levels where they should be and provide quality content, while providing good customer service or having us (or another gateway/call center) do it for them.

                                                                                                                                              Mitch
                                                                                                                                              This isn't rocket science, and Mitch is quite right. It's up to the merchant account holder to manage their own scrub, at least to a degree. With the new Mastercard agreement that we use, the bank and the gateway is on the hook just like the merchant (to a degree) so it's in everyone's best interests to manage the throughput wisely.

                                                                                                                                              Banks aren't stupid these days either, there are reasons they want to see what kind of risk a merchant might become.

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                                                                                                                                                • bigdog
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 6964
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  p1mpdogg will you guys have your own cross sells with your own merchant account?

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                                                                                                                                                    • NETbilling
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 8598
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                      This isn't rocket science, and Mitch is quite right. It's up to the merchant account holder to manage their own scrub, at least to a degree. With the new Mastercard agreement that we use, the bank and the gateway is on the hook just like the merchant (to a degree) so it's in everyone's best interests to manage the throughput wisely.

                                                                                                                                                      Banks aren't stupid these days either, there are reasons they want to see what kind of risk a merchant might become.
                                                                                                                                                      You and I should start a company together :-)

                                                                                                                                                      Mitch


                                                                                                                                                      Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                                                      CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                                                      Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                                                      Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                                                                        • NETbilling
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                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 8598
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                                                                                          we use netbilling


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                                                                                                                                                          It is great to have you live with us. Let me know if you need anything at all!

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                                                                                                                                                          Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                                                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                                                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                                                          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                                                                            • Fetish
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                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                              • 823
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              So how have sales been since switching?

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                                                                                                                                                                • p1mpdogg
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 16714
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                                                                                                                  p1mpdogg will you guys have your own cross sells with your own merchant account?

                                                                                                                                                                  in the near future we will
                                                                                                                                                                  A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

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                                                                                                                                                                    • p1mpdogg
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 16714
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Fetish
                                                                                                                                                                      So how have sales been since switching?

                                                                                                                                                                      I would have to say alot better. its only been a 2 days, and we have some tweaking todo.. but overall, i am very happy
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Snake Doctor
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 13449
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                                                                                                          We have considering trying it out. First time we were turned down, next time they wanted too much paperwork including a full personal financial statement.
                                                                                                                                                                          You were afraid they'd turn it over to the IRS?
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                                                                                                                                                                            • venus
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              welcome to the club

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                                                                                                              I will personally guarantee that we will double our sales and make our webmasters double. details will be disclosed shortly on the new3 changes made in the best intrest of Epic Cash and our webmasters so we all make more... look for our newsletter very soon. possibly late today
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                                                                                                                                                                                • smack
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 10652
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  sounds good p1mpdogg.

                                                                                                                                                                                  can't wait to see my ratios.


                                                                                                                                                                                  Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Matt_WildCash
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1699
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      We are setting up with Netbilling right now (delayed a bit in EU but hopefully soon) can't wait it will easily kick butt over 3rd party processing with all the scrubbing going on. Can't even join any of our sites from New Zealand or Australia. Talk about wasted money.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • venus
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          There used to be a time when "big programs" only wanted to use 3rd party because they were not responsible for the chargebacks and they did not want to mess with customer service.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Now that visa put the clamps down on 3rd party processors they have to be more responsible and cancel people when they want canceled, watch cross selling and other tricks that used to be used so commonly.
                                                                                                                                                                                          as for cust. support, netbilling makes it a no brainer. they have a call center that will handle it for you. There is nothing to pull off, its just about being responsible.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                                                                                                                          IMHO there is a reason so few big programs use their own merchant accounts. Few can do it sucessfully, I know I have always steered away from it. If you guys can pull it off, hats off to you.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • adonthenet
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 16753
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              its bout time =)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Fetish
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 823
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by venus
                                                                                                                                                                                                  There used to be a time when "big programs" only wanted to use 3rd party because they were not responsible for the chargebacks and they did not want to mess with customer service.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Now that visa put the clamps down on 3rd party processors they have to be more responsible and cancel people when they want canceled, watch cross selling and other tricks that used to be used so commonly.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  as for cust. support, netbilling makes it a no brainer. they have a call center that will handle it for you. There is nothing to pull off, its just about being responsible.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  You are so right Venus. Chargeback ratios are the same whether you run third party or have your own merchant account. So why not have it in your own hands and save some money?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • RudeBrett
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sammy and I have processed with our own merchant accounts since 99'. We are happy to have Netbilling as our Number 1 gateway in our cascade.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Mitch has a top notch service with a great support team.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Congrats on the move Epic I'm sure you will be happy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Former owner of Sammy4u, SammyTyler and RUDE

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