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  • Donny
    As you wish...
    • May 2002
    • 13754

    #1

    re: .xxx THINK for a second Dumbasses

    1. If the US decides to force all adult websites to use .xxx do you honestly think ALL adult sites will start using that? Anyone outside the USA will simply give the good ol' US the finger and go about business as usual.

    2. Forcing us to use a particular extension is a huge free speech violation. It ain't gonna happen.

    3. Using the excuse that adult sites will be easier to keep out of the eyes of children if they use .xxx extensions is bullshit. There are already plenty of filters out there to take care of the problem. Parents just have to get off their asses and use them.

    Stop freakin' out, idiots.
  • fireorange
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2005
    • 1648

    #2
    Shutttup

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    • fireorange
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2005
      • 1648

      #3
      Click here:
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      • Donny
        As you wish...
        • May 2002
        • 13754

        #4
        Originally posted by fireorange
        Shutttup

        says a complete nobody

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        • tony299
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #5
          one more time slowly porn is not protected speech ,hasnt been for a long time. You are not protected by the first amendment

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          • Donny
            As you wish...
            • May 2002
            • 13754

            #6
            Originally posted by tony404
            one more time slowly porn is not protected speech ,hasnt been for a long time. You are not protected by the first amendment
            Freedome of speech and EXPRESSION are both protected. It's your opinion that porn doesn't apply. Many others disagree. That's the beauty of it... no one agrees. Therefore we're still pretty much protected unless we're doin' somethin' illegal.

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            • Martin
              "Assassins"
              • Dec 2001
              • 17274

              #7
              I agree - not gonna happen.

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              • thaifan99
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 3029

                #8
                And will the search engines block them in safe search mode.....
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                • chadglni
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 6924

                  #9
                  Can I just get a .x domain? My shit isn't near triple x.


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                  • Martin
                    "Assassins"
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 17274

                    #10
                    Every fucking year it's something new that's going to bring us down. I say fuck em all.

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                    • Terry
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 1604

                      #11
                      I also agree. That wont happen. Even if xxx does go live, I dont see anyone being "forced" to use it.
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                      • smack
                        Push Porn Like Weight.
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 10652

                        #12
                        apperently you don't understand republicans much.
                        Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                        • kernelpanic
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 2961

                          #13
                          Well said, I agree with you on all points:

                          1) If US webmasters can't use non .xxx sites to push porn, they'll simply sell all their domains to foreign webmasters. The same domains will be serving porn, just under different ownership.

                          2) Amen to that. If I have a blog on a .com, and then post a pornographic picture, do I now need to buy a .xxx? It is vague rules and classification/restriction of speech that would get this struck down by the courts.

                          3) If .xxx is made an official ghetto for all porn sites, the children without filtering software will know exactly where to look. Kids who want porn will just go straight to the .xxx, they might just have to do it at home not at school.


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                          • MikeHawk
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                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6683

                            #14
                            Originally posted by smack
                            apperently you don't understand republicans much.

                            hahahaha..

                            Well, its like this, we are doing exactly what this group of people who have made this back room deal thought we would do so far "nothing".

                            The problem is there are way to many "high profile" people involved with this behind the scenes not to keep an eye on it and try and do something.

                            Not really looking into this completely would make anyone an "idiot".

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                            • jonesy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 6688

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

                              2. Forcing us to use a particular extension is a huge free speech violation. It ain't gonna happen. .
                              since you profess knowledge on the subject of first ammendment rights in regards to porn, please explain the violations / factors of the failure of .xxx succeeding as being law or regualtion.
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                              • Donny
                                As you wish...
                                • May 2002
                                • 13754

                                #16
                                Originally posted by jonesy
                                since you profess knowledge on the subject of first ammendment rights in regards to porn, please explain the violations / factors of the failure of .xxx succeeding as being law or regualtion.
                                as soon as your question is restated in English I'll be happy to attempt a reply.

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                                • jonesy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 6688

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                  as soon as your question is restated in English I'll be happy to attempt a reply.
                                  got any facts to back up/prove/support your claim?
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                                  • adonthenet
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 16753

                                    #18
                                    your 110% right bud.

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                                    • Major (Tom)
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 32492

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Martin
                                      Every fucking year it's something new that's going to bring us down. I say fuck em all.

                                      for once we agree.
                                      but we still have to fight this cancer. it wont go away.. it only goes into remission.
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                                      • mrthumbs
                                        salad tossing sig guy
                                        • Apr 2002
                                        • 11702

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                        1. If the US decides to force all adult websites to use .xxx do you honestly think ALL adult sites will start using that? Anyone outside the USA will simply give the good ol' US the finger and go about business as usual.

                                        Who regulates .com's ;)

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                                        • seeric
                                          ..........
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 41917

                                          #21
                                          porn is protected under freedom of expression. same goes for comedians that people dont like what they say.

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                                          • Mike Okitch
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2004
                                            • 4126

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                            1. If the US decides to force all adult websites to use .xxx do you honestly think ALL adult sites will start using that? Anyone outside the USA will simply give the good ol' US the finger and go about business as usual.

                                            2. Forcing us to use a particular extension is a huge free speech violation. It ain't gonna happen.

                                            3. Using the excuse that adult sites will be easier to keep out of the eyes of children if they use .xxx extensions is bullshit. There are already plenty of filters out there to take care of the problem. Parents just have to get off their asses and use them.

                                            Stop freakin' out, idiots.
                                            A fucking men to that

                                            That's what I've been thinking all along and I couldn't have said it better myself.
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                                            • Sly
                                              Let's do some business!
                                              • Sep 2004
                                              • 31379

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Martin
                                              Every fucking year it's something new that's going to bring us down. I say fuck em all.
                                              Someone should start selling umbrellas. They'd make a killing.
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                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 32189

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                one more time slowly porn is not protected speech ,hasnt been for a long time. You are not protected by the first amendment
                                                That's not what Miller V. California says. "Porn" is legal as long as it is not OBSCENE. Obscenity is defined as material where "(a)the average person, applying contemporary community standards would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest;
                                                (b) the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law"

                                                What you are probably referring to are "time and manner" restrictions on speech. Under Rhenquist, the US Supreme Court has made this body of law clear--it is ILLEGAL to ban protected speech. It is LEGAL to require permits and restrict places where it can be said as well as time and manner.

                                                Applying that jurisprudence to .XXX extensions, yes, it may be legal to force porn operators to .xxx domains (easy to ban and blacklist by ISPs)

                                                Moving porn sites to .xxx extensions is NO MORE OBTRUSIVE than the time/manner restrictions the Rhenquist Court imposed on strip bars and porno shops. Didn't you think that the sex shops that were forced by ZONING rules to move to industrial or far off areas not HARMED by being forced to move?

                                                As for moving stuff overseas... well, what's preventing the US government from treating non .xxx compliant sites with blocking or local lawsuits? As long as they market to the US market, they may be fair game given how personal jurisdiction issues play out on the Internet.

                                                I do AGREE with your CONCERN though. Given the recent regulatory changes, perhaps the knockout blow to online adult (in its current form) would be .xxx relegation and VISA crackdown on 'high risk' rebills.

                                                But even within such DREAD scenarios... online adult will still survive and... produce a new crop of millionaires.

                                                Sources:

                                                http://courses.cs.vt.edu/~cs3604/lib...rong-test.html (Miller Standard)

                                                http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...lacemanner.htm (time and manner restrictions vs CONTENT restrictions)


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                                                • macker
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 2161

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                  That's not what Miller V. California says. "Porn" is legal as long as it is not OBSCENE. Obscenity is defined as material where "(a)the average person, applying contemporary community standards would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest;
                                                  (b) the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law"

                                                  What you are probably referring to are "time and manner" restrictions on speech. Under Rhenquist, the US Supreme Court has made this body of law clear--it is ILLEGAL to ban protected speech. It is LEGAL to require permits and restrict places where it can be said as well as time and manner.

                                                  Applying that jurisprudence to .XXX extensions, yes, it may be legal to force porn operators to .xxx domains (easy to ban and blacklist by ISPs)

                                                  Moving porn sites to .xxx extensions is NO MORE OBTRUSIVE than the time/manner restrictions the Rhenquist Court imposed on strip bars and porno shops. Didn't you think that the sex shops that were forced by ZONING rules to move to industrial or far off areas not HARMED by being forced to move?

                                                  As for moving stuff overseas... well, what's preventing the US government from treating non .xxx compliant sites with blocking or local lawsuits? As long as they market to the US market, they may be fair game given how personal jurisdiction issues play out on the Internet.

                                                  I do AGREE with your CONCERN though. Given the recent regulatory changes, perhaps the knockout blow to online adult (in its current form) would be .xxx relegation and VISA crackdown on 'high risk' rebills.

                                                  But even within such DREAD scenarios... online adult will still survive and... produce a new crop of millionaires.

                                                  Sources:

                                                  http://courses.cs.vt.edu/~cs3604/lib...rong-test.html (Miller Standard)

                                                  http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...lacemanner.htm (time and manner restrictions vs CONTENT restrictions)


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