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Originally posted by baddog
They NEVER gave him the content to finish the job. Supposedly he has psds waiting on it.Comment
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Exactly .Originally posted by Headless
What am I supposed to do .. hand in a bunch of these ?
I mean come on people .
You can't have a house built with no bricks ..
I did my best ,
I got sites ready before they even had the content sorted out ..
What could I do ?
NOTHING .Comment
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>> What could I do ?
I dunno why don't you give the money back ?Comment
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Cause I did my end of the bargain .Originally posted by spanno
You fucked up .
Ohhhhhhhh another PSD with ZERO content ?
whats that all about ?Comment
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Originally posted by spanno
Ohh wait .. got another one ...
So All this should be free ? My time is null and void cause " lee" Couldn't get your content sorted ?
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This could have been so easily resolved if the content had just been handed over. If the guy paid you $7k upfront I guess he wants the sites done.
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You're right ..Originally posted by Relish XXX
It could have .
The terms of this job were that payment be submitted in FULL at time of booking .
and that all content was ready to go .
I told Mark I was booking the entire month of September for his shit .
He agreed and DELAYED me well into October before canceling the last half of his order.
Now basically what I can do is rerate his job on the amount of work that was ordered .. cause you can't get a good price on a pound and then expect an ounce at the same rate can ya ?
I told Mark that I was willing to work with him after the new years .
He accepted this and said " probally in feb " which I accepted ... well here we are in June and all this is happening .Comment
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Lee doesn't work for usOriginally posted by machinegunkelly
if we get the content from him can you finish it ?Comment
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Who's [email protected] then ?Originally posted by spanno
Thats the guy Mark had me chase to get the content .. Like thats my job .Comment
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True that. I'm on your side, man.Originally posted by machinegunkelly
Fuck that idiot.
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[email protected] is lee @ maxim productions who shouldha sent us the content they do DVD's they wanted us to make them sites outta their stuff
thats what all this dsigns shit was sposed to be forComment
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A new page - more drama...MarkBComment
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I did finish it .Originally posted by spanno
With 2 toons .
Its over and done with .
Funny part is had you guys contacted me and said , " do two sites and we'll let it go " I would've done it ..
You guys choose toons and now that they're done you won't accept it .Comment
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Originally posted by spanno
OKay .. SO LEE SHOULD've sent the content ?
and yet the heats on me ....Comment
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can u send me a copy of everything you have done?Comment
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I just ordered something I like so please check your e-mail pleaseComment
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MGK i wouldnt send these idiots anything, not after the shit said in this thread.
btw I love how Relish and Baddog read the first post and stick their noise into it, Read the last 6 pages, theres alot more to it. and the dumbass Digibucks guy even admitted to being in the wrong.Comment
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Just repliedOriginally posted by ThumbLord
Look forward to working with you .. confirm you got the mail for me when you can .. I've got a few messages that my mail isn't working properly todayComment
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e-mail in and I will try to explane in detail what I wanna do with the logo, thanks for quick response.Comment
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all drama aside... MGK, you really need to proofread your designs.Comment
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I know .Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
these are over a year old at this point ,
I have been working on my spelling ,grammer etc .
Its long been a fault of my designs , but the newer ones are much better .Comment
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you have mail !Comment
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will send the photograph asap, thanks again !Comment
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Both myself and digibucks have nothing more to say on the matter, its in the hands of our lawer now all other discussions with MGK will be in court.www.trafficoverdose.com. ICQ me 171848378Comment
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thread aint going the way you wanted ?Originally posted by Digibucks
You asked me to bring it here .. not me broComment
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it seems to me that there is a lot of misunderstanding between 2 parties that were trying to business in an unformal way. My advise : always draw up a contract with terms and conditions, even amongst friends. Maybe it doesn't feel like it upfront, but a contract wil protect and save friendships.
I consider myself a friend of Mark and have been following his efforts to bring his affiliate program to live, very closely. He doesn't strike me as an unreasonable guy so my quess is that he will have a very good reason to act in this matter in the way he is.Last edited by Sneezy; 06-02-2005, 03:20 PM.
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Originally posted by Sneezy
You are 100% right ,
From now on all clients will be signing a contract and sending it to me before I start work.
I have terms and conditions that clearly state my case in this , but I am wrong to assume that people read these terms before ordering .Comment
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fucking amateurs say shit like thisOriginally posted by The Truth Hurts.
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you got 7k upfront for a job from digi.
digi tells you to stop production on job.
you completed 1/2 the job due to not having all the content.
you and digi come to the agreement that digi can come in sometime in the next year and you will give him a deal at reqular prices to complete the bulk order
digi asks you for 2 cartoons and states that for doing the cartoons, the unfinished bulk job will be forgotten.
you agree.
he asks for one more cartoon
you both agree on $250 bucks.
digi says fuck you hes not going to pay the $250 for the last cartoon.
you got paid 7k for 3 cartoons and a half finished job.
and you brought this bullshit here?.
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oh i forgot you do some nice cartoons man
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I very rarely get involved in drama threads but just for the record here I`ve known Mark for some time now and we have done lots of business together over ICQ and over the phone so seeing this thread title about him with the thief remarks surprised me because I`ve had absolutely no problems with him and we do several grand ($) of biz monthly together.
That`s my honest input.
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Originally posted by jonesy
Exactly, considering he didn't have to finish the work(which yes I know was not his fault that the content wasn't delivered), I think he should have just said fine on the $250 loss(but is it?) and atleast gone for the customer satisfaction approach and moved on. Seriously, all this drama for that? Guess i'm just a simple guy.icq: 199-245-330Comment
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Originally posted by GweedZilla
Guys , I've been here on GFY for years.
Had many clients not pay ....... I have only once came here and it was cause this moring I was told " Fuck you , take it to GFY "
So I did .
Mark ORDERED this toon .. and AGREED to pay for it , AFTER AGREEING THAT my work for the $7k was COMPLETE .
And then he up and told me to " fuck off " this morning ,
guess he got irritated with my repeated messages that went unanswered .Comment
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Mark is a good guy, i say you guys work it out between yourselves like businessmen instead of bringing this to the boards..
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You maybe you are right. But, 7k for some design work and wanting ex-amount for a toon, why bring it up on the boards? As a designer, I would welcome the agreement and just throw in the extra toon. JMO, it seems that cropping and color correction the photos would take more time for the sites than creating or modifying clipart to a toonOriginally posted by machinegunkelly
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It sounds like this is a big misunderstanding. MGK, learn to get your bulk deals in writing so this won't happen again. ALWAYS, I mean ALWAYS wait for content BEFORE starting on a site design. Don't think you are helping your client by doing the layout firsty. The designs should be built around the content anyway, you will get a better product!
Mark, You are a good guy! In the future make sure you have your content lined up before paying a designer! I have been held up by stuff like this before and it's a pain. You learned a $7k lesson the hard way. Many designers live project to project. Just because you pay upfront doesn't mean that he's holding the $$ in a trust or escrow. Many solo designers in this business lack basic business and budgeting skills. They do work to pay a bill or go partying on the weekend. After the money's gone, so is their loyalty to you.SharkyComment
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Originally posted by Best-In-BC
dude, like who are you , you barely have enough posts to cash in to buy a can of soda, kelly is a stand up guy , has done lots of work for me, and for many people on this board. i am very happy with his work. he is an out standing guy to work with and i am sure everyone of his clients would say the same. if someone msged me on christmas to do some work. no offense i would tell them to suck my fucking fat 8" cock.
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Normally i don't get involved in drama threads, but this one has
gone too far....
For the ppl who know who i am and what i do , they know i choose
clients i work with very carefully.
I decline 9/10 of offers i get when i check their background,
contacts or if i think ill not get paid.
I have known mark for some time now, and he is really a straight
up guy. If you think he cant afford 250$ for your shitty logo, you
are totally wrong.
He never missed a payment , has always been honest, and act like a
real business man with me. I know for a fact, he will do miracles
if their is a problem between you and him.
I really think the prob is you MGK on this one , you own him some
work for the 7k you received and you know it! It seem Mark feel
like he got ripped off by you for the 7k.
Now,you start to show work you said you made before , but who
knows when you made them? you can simply make them in a rush now
because their is a prob ...
A thief, or scammer doesn't pay upfront for jobs. They DON'T pay
at all! He trusted you and paid you upfront 7k$ for a job and you
never delivered it even if you got the content for it later.
On a final note, if mark said he will sue you, be assured you will
get sued to, this guy always keep his words, when he say something
he will do.
Act like a business man, and settle your things with him. You know
you owe him.
PS: Before calling me a troll , or low life gfy post count , another custumer of mine got refered by me to you , and he order stuff on a monthly basis , things can change fast.Comment
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Take your referal and shove it .Originally posted by Crypt
Read the thread , not Marks ICQ messages .. and you'll see Nobody owes anybody anything at all anymore
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Great, will do , It's always a pleasure to get a fuck you when you send a referal that has orderd a ton of design from you.Originally posted by machinegunkelly
Really aprciated.
Now, AlienQ look a nice guy and not mentally challenged at all.Comment
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You threatened to call off your referal ?Originally posted by Crypt
I don't want referals from someone that plays that way bro .
Mark may have paid you lots of cash ,
In fact he paid me lots of cash before too .. However it wasn't HIM paying it was his boss at his last job who I still work for periodically today .
and then he decided to tell me to fuck off and take it to GFY this morning .
So I did .
What should I do now , pack up shop and admit that Mark is in the right so you don't pull your referal ?
No thanks ..
Yeah , this is all over a measly $250 .
BUT I am also owed thousands from other webmasters and you don't see me here bitching do you ? The difference is none of them just went and said " fuck you , go to GFY " when asked for a late payment to be submitted .
This thread Shows that mark sealed the $7K deal .
Could he have got more work out of me ? probally ..BUT He asked for 2 toons and I did it the same fucking day to get this done with .. Then he stiffed me on a " order "Comment
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Originally posted by machinegunkelly
didnt you just post this?
Originally posted by machinegunkelly
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People like that should be reported on every Webmaster board. There should be some kind of Adult Webmaster Police web site where you can look up all the frauds, thiefs and cheaters.
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What don't you get ?Originally posted by jonesydidnt you just post this?
I said I don't want referals from someone who's gonna threaten me cause he hasn't read the whole thread or know all the facts .
So I told him to shove his referal ..
It makes perfect sense to me .Comment
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Originally posted by Walrus
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Think there is two sides to the story! it all stems from the client not give the content on time
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