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  • eroswebmaster
    March 1st, 2003
    • Jul 2001
    • 20295

    #51
    Originally posted by Lenny2
    I thought you weren't available for freelance design anyways?

    And you know I always pay promptly once my project has been delivered
    LOL man it was just a joke.
    Yeah you and I never had issues you always paid promptly and were good for return biz
    For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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    • Snake Doctor
      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
      • Mar 2001
      • 13449

      #52
      Originally posted by eroswebmaster
      LOL man it was just a joke.
      Yeah you and I never had issues you always paid promptly and were good for return biz
      I know, I just didn't have a snappy comeback right then.

      So if you charge me 150% upfront do I get a little extra on the "back end"?
      sig too big

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      • machinegunkelly
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2003
        • 3304

        #53
        Originally posted by Nysus
        Just curious what your policy is on clients that aren't happy with the results? Do you just base things on time you've spent on things?



        Matt
        If a client isn't happy I will do my best to make them happy .
        I offer changes free of charge but I can only do so much .

        There are times where some people just arent happy .

        Lets take a recent example :
        Guy emails for a toon character of himself ,
        I quote $259 for the toon and header etc .

        I get details after this payment and there is another character in the description , but I'm a nice guy so I figuire fuck it I'll do it for him anyway .

        Show client and he doesnt like it totally , does but sorta needs some changes , So I change it a few times and the client still doesnt like it ,
        At this point I turn around and pay my guest toonist Scott to do the toon ,
        I pay him $180 and he does Not one , but two versions of the toon and the client still wasnt happy and wants a refund

        Now this is where I have done my own 5-6 hours work originally , plus revisions THEN I paid $180 to get a toon done by Scott and the guy isnt happy .

        So I've clearly earned my money . Even lost some in that case all in an attempt to please the unpleasable.
        dead.

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        • eroswebmaster
          March 1st, 2003
          • Jul 2001
          • 20295

          #54
          Originally posted by Lenny2
          I know, I just didn't have a snappy comeback right then.

          So if you charge me 150% upfront do I get a little extra on the "back end"?
          Always a happy ending guaranteed. but not necessarily by me...I'm gonna hire a tranny gallery maker out of the Philippines.
          For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
          Click here for more details

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          • Jimmie
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2003
            • 872

            #55
            good policy, but like someone else pointed out. There have been a few occasions where Ive paid and never heard from the designer after that....

            its a 2 way street, youve got a great reputation in the biz, I wouldnt mind 1 bit paying upfront, Ive always offered to do so.
            Livin' Fat Cause I Aint On Speed....

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            • hova
              Traffillionaire
              • Jan 2002
              • 22430

              #56
              smart move
              http://traffillions.com/

              Sign up and get lifetime revshare on your traffic

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              • ModelPerfect
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2003
                • 2862

                #57
                totally agree...
                Logan
                modelperfect [at] gmail.com
                http://www.modelperfect.com

                (Proudly hosted at www.webair.com )

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                • iwantchixx
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 12860

                  #58
                  I ausually have a pay now, then I work policy. I don;t care who it is. however, I have seen myself do some work for people and get paid once finished. The only people I let that happen with are people that I know would be easy to ruin their biz overnight. Of course, if it's just some joe blow newbie, ruining him is easy, but would he care? He can start over with a new name easily enough. He would be made ot pay in full upront.

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                  • Spunky
                    I need a beer
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 133978

                    #59
                    I can understand your frustration..fucking lamers

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                    • BlueWire
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 4628

                      #60
                      Does this have anything to do with not being able to get a hold of Lens being the straw that broke the camel's back?

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                      • geeksta
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2005
                        • 157

                        #61
                        I do programming on a contract basis, and let me tell you, the mainstream customers are slow pay too. I have a few good ones that understand I'm no big corporation who can float them for 90 days.

                        Otherwise, if I'm not paid, I'll have my wife call as my "office manager" and "encourage" them to pay when she's got her PMS. Works every fuckin' time like a dream. Never lost a customer either, 'cause I do good work and it's not me calling them up like Tony Soprano the way the wife on PMS does. Good cop - Bad cop. My customers love me.
                        MY SIG SPACE FOR RENT

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                        • sniperwolf
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 17743

                          #62
                          nice.. hope everything goes well for you
                          ~Accepting design works~

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                          • machinegunkelly
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 3304

                            #63
                            Originally posted by BlueWire
                            Does this have anything to do with not being able to get a hold of Lens being the straw that broke the camel's back?
                            No ,
                            Thats unrelated but is sorta bugging me too
                            Guess lensman doesn't wanna chat
                            dead.

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                            • Snake Doctor
                              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 13449

                              #64
                              Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                              Always a happy ending guaranteed. but not necessarily by me...I'm gonna hire a tranny gallery maker out of the Philippines.
                              Well shit if I have to choose between your grungy ass and a passable tranny I'll take the tranny
                              sig too big

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                              • BlueWire
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 4628

                                #65
                                Originally posted by machinegunkelly
                                No ,
                                Thats unrelated but is sorta bugging me too
                                Guess lensman doesn't wanna chat
                                Hard man to get a hold of...I'm sure he'll get it taken care of eventually

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                                • Arousal Design
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2002
                                  • 1358

                                  #66
                                  Hey man, you're on point with this. I've done work with MachineGunKelly, he's professional, does great work.

                                  All the best to you...

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                                  • wimpy
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 607

                                    #67
                                    I would NEVER do any work for an adult webmaster without payment up front. That's just the way it is in this industry.
                                    Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

                                    icq 8243657

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                                    • Screaming
                                      I can change this!!!!!
                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 18972

                                      #68
                                      sounds like a plan, good luck

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                                      • candyflip
                                        Carpe Visio
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 43073

                                        #69
                                        The client I am referring to is mainstream, small privately owned local manufacturing company.

                                        They make a great product and stand to make a lot once online, but they can't seem to get their shit together...so the site sits on my dev server.

                                        Spend you some brain.
                                        Email Me

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                                        • machinegunkelly
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 3304

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by BlueWire
                                          Hard man to get a hold of...I'm sure he'll get it taken care of eventually
                                          For some reason , I'm not counting on it
                                          dead.

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                                          • Wiggles
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • May 2004
                                            • 14423

                                            #71
                                            smart move man, fucking deadbeats everywhere.
                                            no sig

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                                            • DWB
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 31779

                                              #72
                                              Do what you gotta do man. It's a shame that so many of these so called "ballers" skip out on payments.

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                                              • Paraskass
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2002
                                                • 5829

                                                #73
                                                i need a design done.

                                                start working on it now and I will mail you a check some time this week.


                                                thanks!

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                                                • Shoehorn!
                                                  Die With Your Boots On
                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 22872

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                  the same thing has happened with me in my dj career. the closer people get to you, the longer it takes to get money from them. i now require 1/2 upfront and the other 1/2 before i get on the turntables.

                                                  my advice is keep friends friends and biz biz.

                                                  good luck man, the pros will keep coming back to you and the ones who have to scrounge for loot will go fuck other people.

                                                  my 2 cents.
                                                  This is great advice.

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                                                  • James White
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                    • 1405

                                                    #75
                                                    As a previous designer years ago, I fully support you. I did this my 2nd year into design, continued for 4 years after. If you have the portfolio to back it up, people don't mind. Escrow is also the best way to do that, usually.
                                                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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