The Dutch Voted ......... No

**polle54** · 06-01-2005, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by nico-t

when so much people take the time to vote, i guess the majority exactly knows why they vote, something like 63% of the ppl voted... id think if ppl dont know where the hell they voting on and why, they dont show up

or they just might be too scared.... well not all of them but a lot...

**Niki** · 06-01-2005, 02:35 PM

thanks to all Dutch and French voters!

**evanmorgan** · 06-01-2005, 03:25 PM

the whole point is.....

If a government, which people dont like, want people to vote yes to an issue, people will vote against it......The same would happen in Britain

**Nathan** · 06-01-2005, 03:42 PM

You all know that all voting No does is delay the constitution for a few years and might actually get your country kicked out of the EU, right?

Only one thing good about this. The USD will rise!

**Rich** · 06-01-2005, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by polle54

you may be insulting some people but I think your right that the majority was under great influence of the tendency and the fact that a lot of people were afraid of the consequenses following when Tyrkey joins EU

I actually heard on the news that the man in front of the "no sayers" was using the the fear of the fact that muslims would have a lot of influence...
The fear has grown along with the killings of Van Gogh and all that crap... I can understand this fear but it is not all good to say no to a new constitution because of some extreme killings made by extremists....
I hope this is not the actual case and just something going around the media

There are a lot of reasons people voted against this, and you're not going to find many of them openly debated in the corporate media. France was trying to protect the wages and benefits of their working class along with their social and welfare programs. The French aren't quite yet as controlled by the corporate created world view as we in North America are, the majority of the people still believe in protecting every citizen instead of just buying into the lies that we're taught in school that greed is good and all you should care about is your own personal wealth, and that if someone is not rich it's their own fault because they're stupid or lazy.

**Nathan** · 06-01-2005, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by sperbonzo

...AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT. I was just doing some reading, and the German Finance Ministry is discussing the possible failure of the EMU (European Monitary Union). Like I said, this is good for the US, but bad for the EU.

The reason they are discussing this is because they are trying to find an excuse why they lost a few billion euros this term.

Also, never forget, the current ruling government is trying to cause early elections, one year earlier than normal because they fear they will lose more percentage points than they have ALREADY lost in the next 300 days so they need elections fast if they want any chance to still win.
The only way to cause an early election in germany is to cause problems inside the ruling parties to make them nolonger agree together. So stuff you hear recently from germany is to be taken with much caution.

**nico-t** · 06-01-2005, 06:28 PM

yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy!

The Dutch Voted ......... No

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