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  • $5 submissions
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    • Nov 2003
    • 32189

    #1

    Google KILLS FINETUNING SEO with latest move?

    Well, you can still do SEO while building your site. Optimizing it using keywords you ACTUALLY RANK for... well, that part got tricky due to this: http://searchenginewatch.com/article...-Secure-Search
  • Adam_M
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    • Mar 2006
    • 3800

    #2
    "Not provided" is already over 90% of our search traffic.
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    • kane
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Aug 2001
      • 20684

      #3
      What about within their own webmaster tools ?

      That still tells me what keywords I am ranking for and how many people are finding my site from those keywords.

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      • looky_lou
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        • Mar 2003
        • 1771

        #4
        I noticed this a few days ago. I don't use Goggle Webmaster Tools. I use a 3rd party stats script. I thought it was a problem with the 3rd party script, but I guess it is a result of this latest Google change.

        The last 2 days 99% of my Google and Google Image stats fall into the "not provided" categories. There are a few stragglers for Google, but that's about it.
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        • Awkward
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          #5
          Originally posted by Adam_M
          "Not provided" is already over 90% of our search traffic.
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          • sandman!
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            • Arnox
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              • Sep 2009
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              #7
              Originally posted by Adam_M
              "Not provided" is already over 90% of our search traffic.
              Tell me about it. I have to use what landing pages I have to see what content is popular these days. So lame.
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              • Tom_PM
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                • Feb 2005
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                #8
                Used to be that if the destination url was also https, they passed the data. The article didn't touch on that, did it? Is that gone too? What about for adwords?
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                • oppoten
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                  • Nov 2007
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                  #9

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                  • Emil
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                    • Feb 2007
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                    #10
                    Yeah, they've been doing this for a while now, fucking cunts.
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                    • seeandsee
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                      #11
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                      • Emil
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                        • Antonio
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 14136

                          #13
                          Fucking super greedy cunts. From now on, they will run updates every 20 days that do nothing more than shuffle sites at random so that NO webmaster could ever rely on their organic traffic long term. Your alternative? Adwords, or so they hope

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                          • 96ukssob
                            So Fucking Banananananas
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 12991

                            #14
                            Originally posted by $5 submissions
                            Well, you can still do SEO while building your site. Optimizing it using keywords you ACTUALLY RANK for... well, that part got tricky due to this: http://searchenginewatch.com/article...-Secure-Search
                            You just now saw this?

                            This has been going on now for MONTHS, which is why they want you to use GWT instead to check ranks and search queries. All due to "user privacy" when searching.
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                            • adultmobile
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 5345

                              #15

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                              • wehateporn
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                                • Apr 2007
                                • 27176

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Antonio
                                Fucking super greedy cunts. From now on, they will run updates every 20 days that do nothing more than shuffle sites at random so that NO webmaster could ever rely on their organic traffic long term. Your alternative? Adwords, or so they hope
                                In which case it's worth having 100's or 1000's of sites with a variety of designs, so as the shuffle will have little impact on overall sales

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                                • rogueteens
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                                  • Jul 2006
                                  • 8005

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                                  In which case it's worth having 100's or 1000's of sites with a variety of designs, so as the shuffle will have little impact on overall sales
                                  except that you'll have 100's or 1000's of sites with no traffic while all the prime spots go to Google's so-called authority sites.
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                                  • wehateporn
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                                    • Apr 2007
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by rogueteens
                                    except that you'll have 100's or 1000's of sites with no traffic while all the prime spots go to Google's so-called authority sites.
                                    Agreed, though if one focuses on high profit long-tail keywords there can still be plenty of sales

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                                    • just a punk
                                      So fuckin' bored
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 32385

                                      #19
                                      It's time to buy SSL certificates for your sites. In this case the SE keywords won't be hidden from you
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                                      • Emil
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                                        • Feb 2007
                                        • 5655

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                        It's time to buy SSL certificates for your sites. In this case the SE keywords won't be hidden from you
                                        What? Why isn't it hidden? Because 2 SSL-layers would fuck things up? I dont get it.
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                                        • just a punk
                                          So fuckin' bored
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 32385

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Emil
                                          What? Why isn't it hidden? Because 2 SSL-layers would fuck things up? I dont get it.
                                          https -> https
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                                          • adultmobile
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                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 5345

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by rogueteens
                                            so-called authority sites.
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                                            • $5 submissions
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                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 32189

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                              It's time to buy SSL certificates for your sites. In this case the SE keywords won't be hidden from you
                                              uhm, Google is going 100% hidden EXCEPT for adwords

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                                              • Zeiss
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                                                • May 2012
                                                • 5189

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Antonio
                                                Fucking super greedy cunts. From now on, they will run updates every 20 days that do nothing more than shuffle sites at random so that NO webmaster could ever rely on their organic traffic long term. Your alternative? Adwords, or so they hope
                                                Pff.. That's what I thought, too.


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                                                • Ramirez
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                                                  • May 2011
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                                                  #25
                                                  Google sucks camel balls.

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                                                  • DWB
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                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 31779

                                                    #26
                                                    For "user privacy" yet they give all user data to the US government. lol

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                                                    • livexxx
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                                                      • May 2005
                                                      • 1201

                                                      #27
                                                      Don't bother with going to SSL thinking it retains keywords, its a kinda myth.
                                                      It's all gone now and turned off apart from CPC adword traffic, which isnt much help for organic traffic

                                                      Bing, Yahoo and others still pass it, but that doesn't really help if you are tuning and tweaking landing pages on inbound references for Google searches or exploring long tail drivers.

                                                      It was all quietly turned off about 3 or 4 days ago. Probably a good time to grab and review all your current keyword data in case they ever decide to wipe that menu option from the dashboard...
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                                                      • $5 submissions
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by livexxx
                                                        Don't bother with going to SSL thinking it retains keywords, its a kinda myth.
                                                        It's all gone now and turned off apart from CPC adword traffic, which isnt much help for organic traffic

                                                        Bing, Yahoo and others still pass it, but that doesn't really help if you are tuning and tweaking landing pages on inbound references for Google searches or exploring long tail drivers.

                                                        It was all quietly turned off about 3 or 4 days ago. Probably a good time to grab and review all your current keyword data in case they ever decide to wipe that menu option from the dashboard...
                                                        Plus, Google's launching a REWRITE of their main algo. Fun times ahead

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                                                        • AdultKing
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                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 15601

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                          Plus, Google's launching a REWRITE of their main algo. Fun times ahead
                                                          They already have.

                                                          Hummingbird went live a month ago.

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                                                          • Sid70
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                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            Back to yahoo and rambler time.
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                                                            • gracesfall
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                                                              • Sep 2013
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                                                              #31
                                                              What are the odds that if Google keeps fucking w/ their algo and results that users will jump ship and go to Bing or Yahoo? It's too early in the game NOT to optimize for Google, but damn I'll be glad when I don't have to jump through hoops to appease that fickle whore.
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                                                              • $5 submissions
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by gracesfall
                                                                What are the odds that if Google keeps fucking w/ their algo and results that users will jump ship and go to Bing or Yahoo? It's too early in the game NOT to optimize for Google, but damn I'll be glad when I don't have to jump through hoops to appease that fickle whore.
                                                                Considering how Google's trying to create a SEAMLESS system between websites and mobile, it is becoming increasingly unlikely people will jump to another SITE. Google's transformed itself into a PLATFORM and fighting a platform with a site isn't going to cut it. Still, this might all blow up in Google's face if it screws people's privacy in a major way in the future.

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