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  • nikad
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    #51
    Originally posted by bu((aneer
    what is forte apache?
    it is the given name to a neighbourhood in Ciudadela - way out of the city -.... very dangerous....if you are ever close to Fuerte Apache go there with aluminium undies the least LOL
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    • (Gk)
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      #52
      Question, what is the going dollar rate there today? Here in Brazil is sucking big time latelly.
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      • bigdog
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        #53
        Originally posted by nikad
        http://www.apartmentsrental.com.ar/
        http://www.tucasargentina.com/
        http://www.buenosairesrentals.com.ar/apartments.html

        with a bit more time I can find out who has broadband, etc, yet I am sure most of them do if ya need anything hit me up on icq 124 68 229

        prices are not bad

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        • nikad
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          #54
          Originally posted by (Gk)
          Question, what is the going dollar rate there today? Here in Brazil is sucking big time latelly.
          you mean the dollar is high or that it is getting low? here the central bank is operating everyday to keep it at about 1 dollar=3 pesos, but generally is is at 2.94 or so.
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          • bu((aneer
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            #55
            Originally posted by bigdog
            prices are not bad


            Its a 3rd world country! Seems to me they shouldnt be charging in dollars!

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            • nikad
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              #56
              Originally posted by bigdog
              prices are not bad
              For anybody living in the US or Europe, you will find it is very cheap. My husband says that we would need 3 times more money to keep our lifestyle in the US.
              for instance, broadband access is 20 us$ monthly, a meal at mcdonalds is 2 us$, a pack of Marlboro is 0.75us$, the rent of a 3 bedroom apartment in on of the best neighbourhoods is 600us monthly.
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              • nikad
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                #57
                Originally posted by bu((aneer
                Its a 3rd world country! Seems to me they shouldnt be charging in dollars!
                they don't charge in dollars, I post it in dollars because most people know how much a dollar is worth :P Actually it is forbidden by law to display prices in dollars!

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                • Gunni
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                  #58
                  what happened to all the black people and the native indians?

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                  • (Gk)
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by nikad
                    you mean the dollar is high or that it is getting low? here the central bank is operating everyday to keep it at about 1 dollar=3 pesos, but generally is is at 2.94 or so.
                    nik

                    It was going down quickly, but I'm hoping economists are correct and it will go up again by the end of this year.

                    We had the lowest rate since 2002 last week. Right now is at U$1 = R$2.41 (generally around R$2.90)

                    Just out of curiosity: R$1 = 1.19 Argentina Pesos
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                    • Gunni
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by nikad
                      it is the given name to a neighbourhood in Ciudadela - way out of the city -.... very dangerous....if you are ever close to Fuerte Apache go there with aluminium undies the least LOL
                      nik
                      Is that the neighbourhood that is over the bridge from the La Boca neighbourhood? When I was there someone told me not to go over there because it was quite dangerous

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                      • nikad
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by Gunni
                        what happened to all the black people and the native indians?
                        As in many american countries, the spanish exterminated and exploted natives during their colonization, regarding black people there were never a big number in Argentina, most black people were and are in Brazil and Uruguay.
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                        • nikad
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by Gunni
                          Is that the neighbourhood that is over the bridge from the La Boca neighbourhood? When I was there someone told me not to go over there because it was quite dangerous
                          nope, the one you mention in La Boca is another one, a lot smaller and not so dangerous.

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                          • nikad
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by (Gk)
                            It was going down quickly, but I'm hoping economists are correct and it will go up again by the end of this year.

                            We had the lowest rate since 2002 last week. Right now is at U$1 = R$2.41 (generally around R$2.90)

                            Just out of curiosity: R$1 = 1.19 Argentina Pesos
                            Basically the dollar goes down when the country exports a lot, I am sure Lula will correct it somehow, since it affects internal commerce. 1 peso= 1,19 real? Does that mean that we are cheap for brazilians?

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                            • Gunni
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by nikad
                              As in many american countries, the spanish exterminated and exploted natives during their colonization, regarding black people there were never a big number in Argentina, most black people were and are in Brazil and Uruguay.
                              nik
                              Alright, I was there about a year and a half ago, and thought it was strange how few black people were there comapared with Uruguay that I had been in previously. Have heard a few different versions of the reason why

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                              • BRISK
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                Its a 3rd world country! Seems to me they shouldnt be charging in dollars!
                                I don't think Argentina is a 3rd world country. It ranks #34 out of 177 countries on the UN Human Development Index
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                                • nikad
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Gunni
                                  Alright, I was there about a year and a half ago, and thought it was strange how few black people were there comapared with Uruguay that I had been in previously. Have heard a few different versions of the reason why
                                  Probably there are more black people since Brazil was a Portugese colony and Portugal is closer to Africa?

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                                  • Gunni
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by BRISK
                                    I don't think Argentina is a 3rd world country. It ranks #34 out of 177 countries on the UN Human Development Index
                                    Yeah, I agree, I was in Buenos Aires for a month, then went to Brazil for a month, and had to fly out of Buenos Aires, when I came back there I truly appreciated how civilized the city was.
                                    And the people are really great, very polite and hospitable

                                    I also loved Brazil, but it was very different, I couldn't live there, but will deffinately visit a few more times

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                                    • bu((aneer
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                                      #68
                                      Why is there so much violence and corruption in Argentina while at the same time Chile(right next door) is safe and corruption doesnt exist?

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                                      • bu((aneer
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by BRISK
                                        I don't think Argentina is a 3rd world country. It ranks #34 out of 177 countries on the UN Human Development Index

                                        Dude Argentina has children dying of hunger!!

                                        You should really travel a little more. Argentina was just recently compared to Nigeria in standards of living.

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                                        • (Gk)
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by nikad
                                          Basically the dollar goes down when the country exports a lot, I am sure Lula will correct it somehow, since it affects internal commerce. 1 peso= 1,19 real? Does that mean that we are cheap for brazilians?

                                          Yes, Brazilian exporters are going nuts... but all Lula said to them so far is basically GFY. According to him, exporters should get their stuff together and start to work around the problem and stop being cry babies! lol Which I agree in part, but small exporters are the ones getting screwed by this.

                                          About the currencies, I think for us it doesn't really mean anything. Can't say the same about export/import players.
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                                          • nikad
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Gunni
                                            Yeah, I agree, I was in Buenos Aires for a month, then went to Brazil for a month, and had to fly out of Buenos Aires, when I came back there I truly appreciated how civilized the city was.
                                            And the people are really great, very polite and hospitable

                                            I also loved Brazil, but it was very different, I couldn't live there, but will deffinately visit a few more times
                                            Think that Argentina is a relatively small country with a big territory, the population is 35 million ppl, Brazill is a lot bigger in extension and population and the culture is different. Argentina is a rar mix of Europe and America, with its good and bad of course. I have never been to Brazil but I would like to visit sometime. Regarding ppl's income we have rich , middle class and poor people, but the majority of centrall american and south american countries, don't have a middle class, that is why it becomes a bit extreme at times, rich or poor, there is a big gap there.

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                                            • bu((aneer
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Gunni
                                              Yeah, I agree, I was in Buenos Aires for a month, then went to Brazil for a month, and had to fly out of Buenos Aires, when I came back there I truly appreciated how civilized the city was.
                                              And the people are really great, very polite and hospitable

                                              I also loved Brazil, but it was very different, I couldn't live there, but will deffinately visit a few more times


                                              In greater Buenos Aires people dont have running water or electricity!

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                                              • (Gk)
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                Why is there so much violence and corruption in Argentina while at the same time Chile(right next door) is safe and corruption doesnt exist?

                                                Who told you that?
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                                                • nikad
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                  Dude Argentina has children dying of hunger!!

                                                  You should really travel a little more. Argentina was just recently compared to Nigeria in standards of living.
                                                  This is true, especially in the north of the country, some provinces are poor, personally I cannot understand how a country with so many natural resources, especially food, can have this problem? It is very sad.

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                                                  • Gunni
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                    Dude Argentina has children dying of hunger!!

                                                    You should really travel a little more. Argentina was just recently compared to Nigeria in standards of living.
                                                    What? I can compare apples and oranges if you want, doesn't make them any more the same.
                                                    I have been to 3rd world countries and I can tell you that Argentina is not one of them. Sure they have a lot of poverty, but still less than most countires in S-America. It was quite disturbing to see a lot of people digging through the rubbish at night, I admit, but I still wouldn't call it a 3rd world country.

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                                                    • nikad
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                      In greater Buenos Aires people dont have running water or electricity!
                                                      Wrong, in greater Buenos Aires people have electricity and running water. In some norhtern provinces they don't though. The precary neighbourhoods, or " villas " don't have electricity or running water, yet they make clanderstine connections, " villas " are an equivalent to " favelas" in Brazil.

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                                                      • bu((aneer
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by (Gk)
                                                        Who told you that?

                                                        It's true, after Pinochet Chile has become the most developed country in Latin America.

                                                        The police wont accept bribes!

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                                                        • nikad
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Gunni
                                                          What? I can compare apples and oranges if you want, doesn't make them any more the same.
                                                          I have been to 3rd world countries and I can tell you that Argentina is not one of them. Sure they have a lot of poverty, but still less than most countires in S-America. It was quite disturbing to see a lot of people digging through the rubbish at night, I admit, but I still wouldn't call it a 3rd world country.
                                                          The problem is when people have to dig in the rubbish and there is nothing to get, that is the difference, not that I think it is right, but in some countries you can really starve.

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                                                          • (Gk)
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                                                            #79
                                                            Changing subjects a bit, another question..

                                                            I'm not a soccer fan but is it true all the drama they make about Pelé and Maradona, do people hate Brazilians there? Not sure if you heard about the soccer game where a player from Argentina called a Brazilian player "Macaquito" which I believe stands for hahahahahaha or monkey.

                                                            How did Argentina people react to this?
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                                                            • nikad
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                              It's true, after Pinochet Chile has become the most developed country in Latin America.

                                                              The police wont accept bribes!
                                                              Chile had military governments for a longer time, and somehow they purged and scared society to the bones, so they are usually very quiet.

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                                                              • (Gk)
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                                It's true, after Pinochet Chile has become the most developed country in Latin America.

                                                                The police wont accept bribes!

                                                                If you say so, I find it hard to believe.
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                                                                • bu((aneer
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by nikad
                                                                  Wrong, in greater Buenos Aires people have electricity and running water. In some norhtern provinces they don't though. The precary neighbourhoods, or " villas " don't have electricity or running water, yet they make clanderstine connections, " villas " are an equivalent to " favelas" in Brazil.


                                                                  Thats what I meant, the "villas", but some of the people have direct tv!

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                                                                  • nikad
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by (Gk)
                                                                    Who told you that?
                                                                    My 2 cents, there is violence, but you can go out at night anywhere and won't have a problem, at 3 am, 4 am, etc. All countries have diff kinds of violence, maybe in south america it is a bit more rough or explicit in the methods, in other countries, like in the UK or US it is different, but equally worrying - a kid shooting his mates inthe classroom, kids raping kids, etc -

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                                                                    • nikad
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                                      Thats what I meant, the "villas", but some of the people have direct tv!
                                                                      It is also a matter of ignorance, go to any " villa " and people won't have running water but they have a huge TV, the most expensive snickers, etc, I guess sometimes it is a questions of choices, not in all cases though.

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                                                                      • bu((aneer
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by (Gk)
                                                                        If you say so, I find it hard to believe.


                                                                        Why do you find it hard to believe? Do you not agree that Chile has a stronger economy?

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                                                                        • nikad
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by (Gk)
                                                                          Changing subjects a bit, another question..

                                                                          I'm not a soccer fan but is it true all the drama they make about Pelé and Maradona, do people hate Brazilians there? Not sure if you heard about the soccer game where a player from Argentina called a Brazilian player "Macaquito" which I believe stands for hahahahahaha or monkey.

                                                                          How did Argentina people react to this?
                                                                          LOL soccer is so big, and both Pele and Maradona were so big that we have this huge rivality when it is about sports. Yet argentians love to go to Brazil on a vacation, etc. Maybe we could compare this to brothers issues, they fight like crazy but they love each other

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                                                                          • bu((aneer
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by (Gk)
                                                                            If you say so, I find it hard to believe.


                                                                            listen to nikad, she's a smart girl, she agrees with me!

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                                                                            • nikad
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                                              Why do you find it hard to believe? Do you not agree that Chile has a stronger economy?
                                                                              Chile's economy is more stable, but only because they let the US government do whatver they want with military bases and such.

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                                                                              • bu((aneer
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by (Gk)
                                                                                Changing subjects a bit, another question..

                                                                                I'm not a soccer fan but is it true all the drama they make about Pelé and Maradona, do people hate Brazilians there? Not sure if you heard about the soccer game where a player from Argentina called a Brazilian player "Macaquito" which I believe stands for hahahahahaha or monkey.

                                                                                How did Argentina people react to this?


                                                                                What about Tevez? Didnt he go to Brazil? What did the Brazilian people think about him?

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                                                                                • nikad
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                                                  What about Tevez? Didnt he go to Brazil? What did the Brazilian people think about him?
                                                                                  I thought Tevez was playing in Europe?

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                                                                                  • nikad
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                                                    listen to nikad, she's a smart girl, she agrees with me!
                                                                                    In any case, south american economies are never stable so, if you invest do it in the short term, if you need a bank, get a Us bank account, that is the way to go and you won't have problems.

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                                                                                    • (Gk)
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by nikad
                                                                                      My 2 cents, there is violence, but you can go out at night anywhere and won't have a problem, at 3 am, 4 am, etc. All countries have diff kinds of violence, maybe in south america it is a bit more rough or explicit in the methods, in other countries, like in the UK or US it is different, but equally worrying - a kid shooting his mates inthe classroom, kids raping kids, etc -
                                                                                      True, violence is everywhere. In Rio for example you can get robbed at gun point at any time and everywhere, and I mean it.

                                                                                      But on the other hand you don't hear about teenagers killing their families and shooting school mates.

                                                                                      All the times I got robbed in Brazil was basically because of my own stupidness (and in bright daylight). Stuff like walk around with jewelry, etc. Usually I go to nightclubs about three times per week and I don't come home until 5 or 6 am, and I never had any problems at all.
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                                                                                      • BRISK
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                                                        You should really travel a little more
                                                                                        I've visited over 30 countries on 4 continents
                                                                                        I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                        I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                        • bu((aneer
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by nikad
                                                                                          I thought Tevez was playing in Europe?

                                                                                          Could be, now I dont know, but when he left Boca, didnt he go to Brazil?

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                                                                                          • (Gk)
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by nikad
                                                                                            I thought Tevez was playing in Europe?
                                                                                            I believe he was playing in a Brazilian team, but I don't know much about soccer heh.
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                                                              listen to nikad, she's a smart girl, she agrees with me!

                                                                                              I don't know much about Chile, I just find it hard to believe that there is no violence and cops don't accept bribe

                                                                                              As far as the economy, can't really tell.
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                                                                                              • bu((aneer
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                                                I've visited over 30 countries on 4 continents

                                                                                                And I visited over 40 countries on 6 continents... whats your point?

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                                                                                                • nikad
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Well I'm a gal!

                                                                                                  I am not really into soccer, so I cannot confirm, btw that is why you were asking about Fuerte Apache? Tevez lived there
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                                                                                                  • Gunni
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by (Gk)
                                                                                                    I don't know much about Chile, I just find it hard to believe that there is no violence and cops don't accept bribe

                                                                                                    As far as the economy, can't really tell.
                                                                                                    No, when I was there they were actuallu on some list that said they were the 8th least corrupt country in the world, above places like Germany

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                                                                                                    • nikad
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by (Gk)
                                                                                                      I don't know much about Chile, I just find it hard to believe that there is no violence and cops don't accept bribe

                                                                                                      As far as the economy, can't really tell.
                                                                                                      Can anybody name countries with no vilolence? Even Sweden has violence, if you think that suicide is self violence! We have to be realistic, I bet there is vilonce in Chile as well, but I dunno how the media work there, I mean here you will see the good, the bad, everything on TV and newspapers, I don't know about Chile, but they have a long history of censorship.

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