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  • djroof
    JuicyDevils.gr Owner
    • Jan 2004
    • 25505

    #1

    After the big stop on gambling in USA imagine...

    one day Bush wake up and tell stop porn on net too...

    WTF????
  • squishypimp
    PostMaster General
    • Aug 2006
    • 10781

    #2
    i dont think it will ever happen

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    • djroof
      JuicyDevils.gr Owner
      • Jan 2004
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      #3
      I wish ....

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      • elron
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 1553

        #4
        you noobs dont realise that the online gambling biz had over 80% CB rates , that's the major cause of the wipeout .

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        • sixstringmoneymachine
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2006
          • 199

          #5
          You never know...all it takes is the midnight passing of another port security bill and BOOM! Or maybe they'll piggy back a similar measure banning processing for porn on the passing of the next bill to fund the wars.

          Anything is possible

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          • mariosdead
            Registered User
            • Jun 2006
            • 74

            #6
            Let me actually discourse something intelligent.

            Online gambling. Comparable to porn some say. Porn makes too much money
            for congress to outlaw it and let the money go offshore.

            So if they outlaw internet gambling, 6 billion a year, why isnt porn next?

            Well, this is what I think. Vegas, Indian Casinos, and countless other brick and mortar casinos are losing money because of internet gambling. These people have had lobbyists in washington for 80 years and online gambling takes money from their books, and washingtons books.

            Porn? There isn't a porn city, nevada that is losing money from online porn. The only people losing money from online porn is larry flynt, playboy and penthouse.

            IT is a NEW industry. Gambling is an OLD industry. Maybe online gaming and online porn can be compared. I'm not saying they cant.

            BUT, in an optimistic viewpoint. They are probably banning ONLINE gambling because it takes away from casinos (congressmans donators). ONLINE porn, doesnt take away from any of washington senators or congressmans donators. There isnt a PORN CITY like las vegas.

            The casinos are probably behind online gambling being banned. Who is gonna be behind banning online porn besides larry flynt?

            Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Unlike ONLINE GAMBLING, ONLINE PORN isnt taking away money from any age old establishment, lobbyist, or senators friends.

            We are a new industry, taking money away from nobody. Online gambling is probably being targetted because theyre taking money from VEGAS. Who fucks with vegas?

            Online porn, who are we taking money from besides playboy magazine?

            I dunno. I just dont know if we can compare the two. Online gambling has a direct revenue draw from vegas. Online porn isn't directly taking revenue from any congressman's friends.
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            • Daruma
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              • Nov 2002
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              #7
              Originally posted by elron
              you noobs dont realise that the online gambling biz had over 80% CB rates , that's the major cause of the wipeout .
              your the noob to be honest

              80% chargebacks? hardly - when 50% of the people use things like Neteller (ACH based), Western Union, and other forms of cash payments...

              RIP TD

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              • mariosdead
                Registered User
                • Jun 2006
                • 74

                #8
                The online casinos stepped on a lot of peoples shoes. The 8 billion they make isnt shit to REAL brick and mortar casinos who can, and have on october 4th crushed them essentially.

                But our porn business, who's shoes are we stepping on, financially? Larry Flynt, and playboy.

                I dont know if you can compare the industries. Porn online isn't making anyone OFFLINE lose money. Especially offline people with mob ties except
                maybe all the washed up movie producers from boogie nights.

                Congress is gonna go after us if we fuck up their donators income, but we are just making new income.

                It comes down to money. If online porn is making someone powerful lose money than maybe we will be shutdown.

                Online gambling DID make powerful people lose money, or atleast not get money they expect to retain. The vegas powerheads probably expect themselves to run INTERNET gaming as well as vegas.

                But who is gonna stop us from internet porn? There isnt any big people who we're taking money from.
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                • mariosdead
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 74

                  #9
                  scarily, the entire online porn business could be ended in one day with one bill like this?
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                  • donross
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                    • Aug 2005
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                    #10
                    they can stop gambling but not porn
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                    • KrisKross
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                      • Jan 2006
                      • 5025

                      #11
                      Originally posted by elron
                      you noobs dont realise that the online gambling biz had over 80% CB rates , that's the major cause of the wipeout .
                      Are you on crack? First of all, most gambling transactions aren't done with credit cards. Second, why would the government care about chargeback rates? Third, if the chargebacks rate were even at 10%, merchant accounts would be shut down left and right.

                      If you have no clue what your talking about, just stick to posting "see sig" and "I'd hit it", please.

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                      • diggz
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 302

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mariosdead
                        scarily, the entire online porn business could be ended in one day with one bill like this?
                        Any legal activity can be halted with this type of bill passage. The house allowed that bullshit online gaming verbage onto a bill that was guaranteed to be passed (port security).

                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=662197

                        As for chargebacks at 80%.. that is just ridiculous (source?). Even if it was true, that wouldn't cause the government to put this bill into a homeland security bill.

                        Originally posted by mariosdead
                        The online casinos stepped on a lot of peoples shoes. The 8 billion they make isnt shit to REAL brick and mortar casinos who can, and have on october 4th crushed them essentially.
                        If that is the case, why is this Nevada Congresswoman the only one who stood up to this bill the other day when it passed through?

                        http://youtube.com/watch?v=BX97GSppRT0

                        If online gambling is outlawed then NOBODY (U.S.) stands a chance to profit from it.. and if you don't think that the B&M casino's want a piece of the pie, you are crazy. Not only do they want a piece, but if they were allowed to actually invest their money into online gaming sites, they would be running shit like diahrea.

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                        • TimBlaze
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                          • Oct 2006
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                          • marketsmart
                            HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                            • Dec 2004
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                            #14
                            bush needs to surf the net for porn, he wouldnt ban it

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                            • jerseygto
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 341

                              #15
                              Originally posted by marketsmart
                              bush needs to surf the net for porn, he wouldnt ban it
                              You know i wouldent even doubt it at all he probaly banned online gameing cause he couldent figure out blackjack
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                              • dissipate
                                The Dirty Frenchman
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 8904

                                #16
                                Porn on the net will never be removed. If regulated that far everyone would just offshore.

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                                • diggz
                                  Registered User
                                  • Apr 2005
                                  • 302

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by dissipate
                                  Porn on the net will never be removed. If regulated that far everyone would just offshore.
                                  Sorta like online gaming sites

                                  It's not that being removed is a possibility... it is the possibility of the government restricting access to the point that your freedom to view porn is infringed upon.

                                  And the bill the gov. just pushed through puts restrictions on banks and credit card companies to prevent them from processing for the particular industry (gambling). Imagine what would happen if the same restrictions were put on porn.
                                  Last edited by diggz; 10-04-2006, 06:36 PM.

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                                  • gecko
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                                    • Jun 2002
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                                    #18
                                    can't see it happening
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                                    • E$_manager
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                                      • Apr 2006
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                                      #19
                                      It is difficult to stop it in net.
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                                      • GatorB
                                        The Demon & 12clicks
                                        • Oct 2001
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mariosdead
                                        Well, this is what I think. Vegas, Indian Casinos, and countless other brick and mortar casinos are losing money because of internet gambling.
                                        No they aren't. Only the stupid ones that have no forthought. Movie studios made the same clian 25 years ago when they tried to get the VCR outlawed. Imagine how mnay studios would have gone belly-up by now if they had succeeded? As we all know just the opposite happened. Revenue for studios went WAY up.

                                        Why an US casino wouldn't want to run a website where they could not only make money from peole playing online, they could use that website to get people to come to their casinos and hotels and it would be basically FREE advertising. I don't ever see me going to Vegas personally so hey they could actually make money from me if they had a website. Oh well their loss. Online gambling will in fact become legal here. It's going to take at least 20 years now and in that time the US gaming industry would have lost out on at least $125 BILLION in revenues. Idiots!

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                                        • GatorB
                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 18208

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dissipate
                                          Porn on the net will never be removed. If regulated that far everyone would just offshore.
                                          Most gambling sites arein the UK theya re no longer accepting traffic from America and not American can no longer be affiliates. Same thing would happen to porn on the net under similar regulation. No Americans could be affiliates and non-American affiliates would not be able to make money on US traffic. So going offshore doesn't mean squat.

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                                          • mariosdead
                                            Registered User
                                            • Jun 2006
                                            • 74

                                            #22
                                            [QUOTE=GatorB]No they aren't. Only the stupid ones that have no forthought. Movie studios made the same clian 25 years ago when they tried to get the VCR outlawed. Imagine how mnay studios would have gone belly-up by now if they had succeeded? As we all know just the opposite happened. Revenue for studios went WAY up.


                                            So if it wasn't already existing casinos behind this, why did they ban gambling so quick and swiftly?

                                            If casinos werent behind it wait for a ban on porn probably this year if it's that easy.

                                            This country banned ALCOHOL for god sakes at one point. They will ban porn.
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                                            • mariosdead
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                                              • Jun 2006
                                              • 74

                                              #23
                                              Is there anyway they banned online gambling because people not paying their credit card debt could become so wide spread?

                                              So the banks don't get fucked out of money?
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                                              • andrej_NDC
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                                                • May 2004
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by GatorB
                                                Most gambling sites arein the UK theya re no longer accepting traffic from America and not American can no longer be affiliates. Same thing would happen to porn on the net under similar regulation. No Americans could be affiliates and non-American affiliates would not be able to make money on US traffic. So going offshore doesn't mean squat.
                                                Only if the ISPs ban porn, but that would mean USA = China and I don't think that will happen.

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