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11-20-2002, 08:57 AM

As an affiliate how does having CC Bill and Ibill on a site alter standard joins from an affiliate?

Say I choose CC Bill, but the surfer joins using Ibill - do I get paid?

I notice many people adding processors etc and I am beginning to wonder.

Some sites are even adding Paypal and this is obviously not going to give me any credit, right?

I am looking for some new sponsors and since this VISA shit im finding new things to ponder.

So this sponsor has CC Bill and ibill.

Which to choose?

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11-20-2002, 09:01 AM

There are alot of ways to track paypal payments, if your sponsers really wanna pay you what you deserve so they shouldn't have any problem to track also the paypal payments.
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11-20-2002, 09:18 AM

We currently have CCBill primary and IBill back up solution. We successfully resolved Visa trouble and we're working under CCBill/Ibill processor cascade now. So you will be paid from both.

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11-20-2002, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Master_Yoba
We currently have CCBill primary and IBill buck up solution. We successfully resolved Visa trouble and we're working under CCBill/Ibill processor cascade now. So you will be paid from both.

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11-20-2002, 09:27 AM

I assume that it is impossible to pay affiliates on backup processor sales if they sent traffic using a primary processor referral code. (This is, when your referral program is processor-based, not home-grown.) If there is a way to pay affiliates wither way, without custom scripting for the referral program, I'd love to know about it.

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11-20-2002, 09:32 AM

Yep, A few of my webmasters asked the same question. I use CCbill as the primary & websitebilling.com for only the declines.

I don't think the billing companies will join hands on something like that

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11-20-2002, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
As an affiliate how does having CC Bill and Ibill on a site alter standard joins from an affiliate?

Say I choose CC Bill, but the surfer joins using Ibill - do I get paid?

I notice many people adding processors etc and I am beginning to wonder.

Some sites are even adding Paypal and this is obviously not going to give me any credit, right?

I am looking for some new sponsors and since this VISA shit im finding new things to ponder.

So this sponsor has CC Bill and ibill.

Which to choose?

I agree with this Fletch XXX here, allot of webmaster referral pay sites now offer three different payment methods but we only get credit from one of them. This is BS if you ask me. They want to run a webmaster referral program, well make it so when a surfer decides to join via a referral code that the referrer gets the sale threw the CC processor he signed up for under your site ex: ccbill.... Putting up another processor like ibill for cheques & another processor for 1-900 numbers is just a scam to rip us off from our hard earned traffic that we send you. I understand its your pay site but you decided to make it a webmaster referral program so that makes it a part of ours also & we are entitled to 100% of sign ups that are sent from our referral codes. Here is my 2 cents on this.
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11-20-2002, 09:44 AM

Fletch,

Your complaint about pop up is accepted.

Gothweb,

You need to combine billing and your own programs. Resellers should register on your side with your ref code, of course.

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11-20-2002, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by gothweb
I assume that it is impossible to pay affiliates on backup processor sales if they sent traffic using a primary processor referral code. (This is, when your referral program is processor-based, not home-grown.) If there is a way to pay affiliates wither way, without custom scripting for the referral program, I'd love to know about it.

There IS a way to pay for primary and secondary. At this point, any sponsors not doing that are being lazy and ripping affiliates off.

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11-20-2002, 10:43 AM

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I agree with this Fletch XXX here, allot of webmaster referral pay sites now offer three different payment methods but we only get credit from one of them. This is BS if you ask me. They want to run a webmaster referral program, well make it so when a surfer decides to join via a referral code that the referrer gets the sale threw the CC processor he signed up for under your site ex: ccbill.... Putting up another processor like ibill for cheques & another processor for 1-900 numbers is just a scam to rip us off from our hard earned traffic that we send you. I understand its your pay site but you decided to make it a webmaster referral program so that makes it a part of ours also & we are entitled to 100% of sign ups that are sent from our referral codes. Here is my 2 cents on this.

This is probably the most common method of shaving. By only crediting some of the sales, sites are able to offer a larger amount per sale. When we were designing our affiliate program, we had to make a conscious choice: did we want to pay people the real value of their real traffic or did we want to pay people an inflated amount for a limited number of signups. Affilitates get credit for signups to any of our sites, through any processor, and we don't exit their traffic to other sites. While some people appreciate this, the vast majority seem to be oblivious to anything other than the fact that we appear to pay less.

It seems like most webmasters want to be told their getting $50/trial even if only half their trials are counted.

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11-20-2002, 10:46 AM

IM not only talking about sites that use both processors, but also affiliate sites that allow you to sign up under ibill or CCbill, whatever your preference.

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11-20-2002, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by NetRodent

This is probably the most common method of shaving. By only crediting some of the sales, sites are able to offer a larger amount per sale. When we were designing our affiliate program, we had to make a conscious choice: did we want to pay people the real value of their real traffic or did we want to pay people an inflated amount for a limited number of signups. Affilitates get credit for signups to any of our sites, through any processor, and we don't exit their traffic to other sites. While some people appreciate this, the vast majority seem to be oblivious to anything other than the fact that we appear to pay less.

It seems like most webmasters want to be told their getting $50/trial even if only half their trials are counted.

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11-20-2002, 11:47 AM

No, most pay small paysites only pay you on their main processor sign-ups. So if you send them a surfer via a ccbill reffer url, you will get credit for ccbill sign-ups only. If they take Ibill 1-900 orders or Paypal...you won't get paid on this sign-ups.

The only way to track this is if they have some custom software and you send hits to their custom url that track sign-ups no matter what processor is used.
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11-21-2002, 07:34 AM

The webmaster should have two free areas. one for the regular traffic, and one for the affilate traffic. That way you have two seperate signup pages - providng affliates will the signups that they generated for you by only putting your affiate program option as the only signup option on that join page.

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11-21-2002, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by pornjudge

I agree with this Fletch XXX here, allot of webmaster referral pay sites now offer three different payment methods but we only get credit from one of them. This is BS if you ask me. They want to run a webmaster referral program, well make it so when a surfer decides to join via a referral code that the referrer gets the sale threw the CC processor he signed up for under your site ex: ccbill.... Putting up another processor like ibill for cheques & another processor for 1-900 numbers is just a scam to rip us off from our hard earned traffic that we send you. I understand its your pay site but you decided to make it a webmaster referral program so that makes it a part of ours also & we are entitled to 100% of sign ups that are sent from our referral codes. Here is my 2 cents on this.

this is why i would rather sell banner space prepaid instead of fucking around with all this shit.
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