http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4915
DRM = Good
I want a world where all the content and media is DRM protected.
DRM = Good
I want a world where all the content and media is DRM protected.
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AMD will be adding it too soon as they are part of the TCPA (Trusted Computing Platform Alliance) -
*Waits for the clueless fucks to come here and tell me hardware DRM is crackable like glass*
Look the computer nerds are going ape shit because they know hardware DRM means no more torrents or p2p:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardwar...id=155&tid=137
Last edited by fireorange; 05-28-2005, 02:44 PM.Comment
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smart move. all content will be distributed digitally to PCs and mobile devices probably sooner rather than later.
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People seem to be forgetting something about this DRM in the chips...
As new OS' come out it will be fully integrated. no more unpaid for mp3s and movies is a sure thing.
Ok, so big deal, means people will actually have to PAY for their music and movies now.
I do have a huge problem with it though. It's leading to something more sinister than just protecting media.
You may say that it's just drm to protect the industries from thieves but it's sooo much more than that.
This is the first step towards palladium. Right now it's no big deal, but wait until they go full palladium.
Goodbye being able to run unsigned code fellas. Hello to paying out the ass on a monthly basis just to be able to use applications to read and create your own intellectual property. You will be forced to upgrade each time software vendors upgrade. You will be forced to purchase newer versions when your software becomes obsolete because access to those files you created with it will be unreadable and locked out. Mom&Pop software developers will be put out of business completely. No more free software either. Every piece of code would have to be inspected and signed by Microsoft at a hefty price. Defeating palladium would be illegal in many areas. They're already working on this.. they have full government support. SO if you managed to get lets say 'Linux' to run on a palladium machine you would be breaking the law unless it was digitally signed by Microsoft, which will never happen. If you managed to code something to record your own self singing in a mic and was able to get past palladium so it could run, you would be breaking the law. Your internet connection goes down. You can't boot your system!
Read up on palladium folks... DRM is the first step to it.
mark my words.Comment
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Trying to defeat Palladium or any hardware DRM will get you fucked because of the DMCA.Comment
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The companies:
The TCPA was founded 1999 by Compaq, HP, IBM, Intel and Microsoft. But in the meantime around 200 companies joined them. You will find Adobe, AMD, Fujitsu-Siemens, Gateway, Motorola, Samsung, Toshiba and many other well known companies. IBM already sells first desktops and notebooks with integrated TPM.
No escaping it.Comment
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I wouldnt buy a computer with a chip like that.Comment
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You'll have no choice.Originally posted by SomeCreep
So you'd run like a Pentium 3Ghz and never upgrade to the newer CPUs because all of them will have it and everyone will be running on Pentium 9Ghz.
It'll be built into your GPU, hard-drive, RAM, everything. By 2010, it'll be in all electronic equipment.Comment
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Well it could also mean no more password traders for paysites, which could be a good thing..In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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If the two big companies AMD and Intel start this there will always be some korea, japanese, chinese company to make a new chip with no protection, Its all bullshit scaretactic shit, I've seen this TCPA shit for as long as ive been surfing the internet bunch of bullshitComment
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So DRM is going to stop me from ripping a DVD to an MPEG file and sharing it on a p2p network? As long as I don't encode it DRM, what the fuck is stopping me?Originally posted by fireorange*Waits for the clueless fucks to come here and tell me hardware DRM is crackable like glass*
Look the computer nerds are going ape shit because they know hardware DRM means no more torrents or p2p:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardwar...id=155&tid=137
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other than maybe VIA, who else out there can produce quality CPUs?Originally posted by MrCComment
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That's what i was thinking...Originally posted by WarChildComment
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There might be few in the CPU Market because the market share is owned by amd and intel but if intel and amd go with this bullshit and new company might to produce these chips with out drm because they know they would have a good market share for the demand..Originally posted by stereolabComment
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it's not easy to start a company making chips. added to that, you need the support of your channels. HP or Dell isn't going to just start bundling an upstart's chips. shit look at Transmeta these days. are they even still in business?Originally posted by MrCComment
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I bet the Apple world is eating this up with a huge smile. Surely this will push a lot of new customers Apple's way?Comment
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Perhaps. I believe consumers will always have a choice though, unless you expect all vendors to abandon a multi-million dollar market selling hardware which does not incorporate DRM type technology into it's hardware.Originally posted by fireorangeComment
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check out my site http://www.smutlounge.com we drm content sorry for spamming in your threadOriginally posted by fireorangeComment
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about time better then nothingComment
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there will always be a way around it. there will be too many poeple out there working on cracking it. nothing will ever be unbreakableComment
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i'm suprised they didn't do this first considering how important DRM is to their hardware sales (itunes/ipod).Originally posted by .?.Comment
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The problem with hardware DRM, is that I believe most would have some sort of trigger. If something doesn't boot up/is bypassed your pc wont boot. So you'd need a hardware based solution to by-pass the DRM. And even if you do get passed that, if you needed to login to your ISP via DRM, and your PC reports something is up. No more internet... OH SHITS WE'RE ALL DOOM-EDED.Originally posted by wedouglasComment
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To say a technology can be implemented that another technology can't break is pretty foolish.
DRM as it is right now is easily gotten around as long as you've got an initial license. How do you think DRM protected content makes it's way onto P2P in a non-DRM form? There are screen capture programs that capture DRM video frame by frame and then rebuild it.
Point is, experts thought nobody would get around the initial DRM and they did.Comment
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Apple makes the most money from the lack of DRM.Originally posted by stereolab
Honestly, if DRM were 95% effective and prevalent, then who would ever need more than a 20GB iPod?
We're up to 80GB now.............Comment
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once this is released, I will buy the fastest CPU without that DRM crap and one for backup if the first catches fire and keep it for like 10 years... there is no way I will ever support that crap.
kernelpanic: right on spot. suddenly people will realize that they dont need that 250gb HD they bought...- Brian
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"640K ought to be enough for anybody." and "No one will need more than 637 kb of memory for a personal computer." - Bill GatesOriginally posted by Brian911
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There might be a crack with an early version of Palladium BUT it WILL be hardware and WILL be extremely difficult to distribute and sell because every single tech company will be after you with the DMCA.
The average surfer using BitTorrent/KaZaA will not be going through all that effort to open his PC up to crack EVERY SINGLE chip: CPU, graphiccard, harddisk, soundcard, bios.
And by 2010, it'll be in your TV, car radio, etc.Last edited by fireorange; 05-29-2005, 04:14 AM.Comment
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RISC based processes are much better and i think it would be their time to shine.Comment
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