ONE TIME ANNOUNCEMENT: International / Alternative Billing - MAKE MORE MONEY

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  • JOKER
    Facit Omnia Voluntas
    • Apr 2003
    • 2105

    #1

    ONE TIME ANNOUNCEMENT: International / Alternative Billing - MAKE MORE MONEY

    As mentioned earlier this week in Nick Baauw's Dialer Business discussion,
    today is my time to announce the new trend for International Billing, additional
    revenue generation and alternative billing.

    Over the last 3 months I have been testing this solution as an add-on billing for
    surfers without a creditcard or other payment methods supported by sponsors which I
    promote and I have been nothing but happy as far as revenue, performance and support goes.

    PasswordByPhone is the new Trend when it comes to International Billing,
    generating additional revenue from Countries you could not monetize before,
    Surfers you could not bill before or adding an alternative, additional
    payment solution to your affiliate program or paysite.

    No matter if you are a Webmaster, a Paysite-owner or an Affiliate-Program, if you do not use PasswordByPhone
    you ARE loosing money from markets you had no chance to monetize before.

    PBP is by far better than dialers, let me tell you why:

    - Dialers are blocked or restricted in many profitable markets.

    -Dialers have 6 to 8 minutes average holding times at very low payout rates!
    If the dialer has a slow connection the holding is only an average of 2-3 minutes.

    - Dialers don't work with DSL, LAN and CABLE.
    In certain countries you lose up to 40% of your users by using these systems.

    - Dialers get blocked by Dialer Blocking Software, which many European Media are offering for free.

    - Direct-Access from Dialers gets blocked by most anti virus and firewall software which stops the dialer
    download and activates the many levels of security warnings on the screen!


    Yes, PBP is even better than Voice-Call solutions, some facts?

    - A dialup user will probably NOT have a required second phone line and in many parts of the world mobile phones
    are on a prepaid service, so premium calls are not possible. YOU LOSE up to 80% from these types of prospect users!

    - Broadband users need to be simultaneously connected to the phone and listen to an endless repetitive announcement
    which makes them nervous and makes them realize quickly that in fact it is an expensive phone connection.
    SHORT HOLDINGS and NOT MUCH recurring business are the result!


    How PasswordByPhone works you ask yourself... Here is the answer:

    1. The surfer simply calls the phone number listed on the PBP payment window (easily added to your site).

    2. Listens in his native language to a 5.5 minute password announcement and hangs up!
    (Announcement available in 35 languages!!!).

    3. The surfer enters the password code on the PBP payment window and gets 30 minutes access to the content.
    (Site owners can choose duration of access time).

    4. You get paid up to $10.00 for every password.
    The webmaster gets a high payout rate for every password sold at the duration of a 6 minute premium phone call.

    Our award-winning Geo-Targeting solution automatically detects the country and language of your visitors.
    Each visitor will see the sites and phone call instructions in his/her NATIVE language! We offer over 35 different languages!


    More facts that will make you a happy Webmaster/Affiliate:

    - Payment Every 2 Weeks! (There is no 30 day or 45 day wait and no factoring fees.)

    - Payment by either Check, Bank Wire, PayPal (Only for commissions up to $ 200), Epassporte and Moneybookers.

    - Extremely Profitable Recurring Business
    PBP enhances recurring business like no other pay by phone system.
    After 30 minute access to the content, a new window appears: "your access time is over" - Please call again for a new password!
    This message appears in the user's native language and shows him the dedicated number to call.
    Your users come back again and again.
    THIS MEANS MORE MONEY: The user can even call to reserve passwords from his office, work phone, phone booth and can use the passwords at a later time.

    - Monetize over 240 Countries WORLDWIDE and never look back.

    - REAL TIME Statistics!

    - NO CHARGEBACKS!!!


    You can use PasswordByPhone in many different ways to make additional revenue,
    put up a textlink or a banner on your site, add a popup/exit, implement it as additional billing if you have your own program,
    link it into your affiliate-program, the possibilities to make more money are nearly endless.

    The best idea is, take a look at it yourself, explore the PasswordByPhone webmasters-area and start MAKING MORE MONEY!

    If you have any questions, suggestions or problems, please post here (Angie - posting as passwordbyphone will be available in this
    thread and on GFY from now on as well) or contact the PBP support at ICQ 43303348 or email support AT passwordbyphone DOT com .

    Thanx for your time and all the best success & high profits!

    To clarify, I was not hired for this announcement, I am an active PBP affiliate and highly recommend it to all of you, making more money is never wrong.

    Steve - JOKER
    Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
    Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

  • NaughtyAce
    Traffic - Protect Content
    • Aug 2003
    • 1482

    #2
    Password by Phone is a great solution.
    Angie over there is awesome.

    Well said Joker.
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #3
      Good luck, sounds interesting . . . however . . . . "you ARE loosing money from markets you had no chance to monetize before."

      The word is losing ;) (at least I read it all)

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      • JOKER
        Facit Omnia Voluntas
        • Apr 2003
        • 2105

        #4
        Originally posted by baddog
        Good luck, sounds interesting . . . however . . . . "you ARE loosing money from markets you had no chance to monetize before."

        The word is losing ;) (at least I read it all)
        Thanx for pointing it out, missed that one

        Appreciate that you read it all
        Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
        Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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        • Wizzo
          2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
          • Nov 2000
          • 15224

          #5
          Looks like a sweet setup!
          Last edited by Wizzo; 05-27-2005, 03:16 PM.
          Looking for Opportunity!

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          • Wizzo
            2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
            • Nov 2000
            • 15224

            #6
            So are they billed in dollars, euros, or their local currency?
            Looking for Opportunity!

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            • JOKER
              Facit Omnia Voluntas
              • Apr 2003
              • 2105

              #7
              Local currency, as they get billed by their phone-company, so the actual charge goes to their phonebill.

              Angie should be here to answer as well, unfortunately her account is not activated yet from what she tells me.

              I'll pass the infos on as long as she is not able to post

              Thanx,
              Steve
              Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
              Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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              • Aly
                President, ePufferProfits
                • Dec 2004
                • 1881

                #8
                That's a solid solution. Sounds good.
                .

                .
                Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

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                • JOKER
                  Facit Omnia Voluntas
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 2105

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Aly_AVN
                  That's a solid solution. Sounds good.
                  Thanx a lot Aly, appreciated, especially coming from you
                  Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                  Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                  • JOKER
                    Facit Omnia Voluntas
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 2105

                    #10
                    Ok, Angie asked me to post this for her until her username is activated:

                    Thanks guys for those fabolous comments, you are going to make me blush.

                    In all truth, the PassWordByPhone DOT com system is revolutionizing the pay by phone online billing by bringing those hard to get International users right to your doorstep. Our system is completely geo targeted in over 35 languages. You cannot imagine how well our system does in the Arabian markets, China, Brazil and even Mexico-you can target over 245 countries!! That?s not all, we pay up to $10
                    Per password and have the highest payout rates out there.

                    There are so many dialer related problems and inconveniences in the industry right now, so much so they are banned in Spain, Austria, Switzerland and are heavily restricted in Germany and very soon in the U.K. Users in the big markets like Germany are scared to death to download a dialer program or even to use it.

                    Our system has up to 82% better conversions than dialers, in some countries even 300%. If you want to cash in on users from around the world , the PBP pay by phone system is your ticket!

                    Webmasters and resellers can choose to integrate the system with their content, with the free content (niche sites) we offer and even into their existing affiliate program.

                    Payment is sent every two weeks, like clockwork in US currency. Statistics are all in REAL TIME.

                    Visit www.passwordbyphone DOT com or write me an email at sales@passwordbyphone DOT com with your requests or inquiry's and I will assist you every step of the way.

                    I promise to be as nice as Mark and Steve make me out to be

                    Angie
                    Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                    Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                    • geeksta
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2005
                      • 157

                      #11
                      wow great billing solution. and no chargebacks that is great. i was surfing your site, but didn't see, does this work for USA surfers who dont have a credit card and want to access my content?
                      MY SIG SPACE FOR RENT

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                      • JOKER
                        Facit Omnia Voluntas
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 2105

                        #12
                        Originally posted by geeksta
                        wow great billing solution. and no chargebacks that is great. i was surfing your site, but didn't see, does this work for USA surfers who dont have a credit card and want to access my content?
                        Yes, it does.

                        Unfortunately US has lower rates, but you can set the time how long a password is valid when you use your own content.

                        Works great for me, as US no-creditcard users are one of those that keep rebilling to stay in.

                        Hope that helps
                        Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                        Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                        • Feivel
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 1203

                          #13
                          Very good solution, especially in these times where Governments are killing the dialer-market
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                          • VirtuMike
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 2483

                            #14
                            Looks decent. Good job on the work.
                            Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES!

                            XYZZY4L

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                            • JOKER
                              Facit Omnia Voluntas
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 2105

                              #15
                              Originally posted by VirtuMike
                              Looks decent. Good job on the work.
                              Thanx Mike
                              Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                              Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                              • V_RocKs
                                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 32451

                                #16
                                Great solution. Nice to see someone innovate!

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                                • wiggitywack
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 561

                                  #17
                                  why is the password annoucement 5 and a half minutes? is a user with his dick in his hand going to wait that long to get their pass, wouldnt they want access right away?

                                  if the user bails and hangs up after 3 or 4 minutes because they are sick of waiting, does the webmaster get credit for those mins or do you keep that for yourself as no password was actually issued to the user?

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                                  • Centurion
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 6033

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by wiggitywack
                                    why is the password annoucement 5 and a half minutes? is a user with his dick in his hand going to wait that long to get their pass, wouldnt they want access right away?

                                    if the user bails and hangs up after 3 or 4 minutes because they are sick of waiting, does the webmaster get credit for those mins or do you keep that for yourself as no password was actually issued to the user?

                                    I was thinking the very same thing.

                                    Also..how well does your program interact with say existing htpasswd files generated by billers such as ccbill?

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                                    • Theo
                                      HAL 9000
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 34515

                                      #19
                                      joker,were you the guy in prague's booth?

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                                      • JOKER
                                        Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 2105

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wiggitywack
                                        why is the password annoucement 5 and a half minutes? is a user with his dick in his hand going to wait that long to get their pass, wouldnt they want access right away?

                                        if the user bails and hangs up after 3 or 4 minutes because they are sick of waiting, does the webmaster get credit for those mins or do you keep that for yourself as no password was actually issued to the user?
                                        Directly from the PBP FAQ:

                                        What happens if a caller hangs up after 1 or 2 minutes! Do I get paid anyway?

                                        Customers will call to receive a password and will stay on the phone to listen to their password about 98% to 99 % of the time. The caller listens to a interesting 4,5 minute announcement, followed by the password and the password repetition which results in average to a 5 minutes 15 seconds to 5 minutes 30 second call duration.

                                        There are about 2 to 3 percent of callers who hang up during the first 30 to 60 seconds. Once the caller remains over 60 seconds on the phone he will want to listen to the password. After all, this is the reason why the caller is calling and therefore will stay the full duration on the phone. We included the very few "30 second hang ups" into our calculation and will pay for every password of the duration of 6 minutes instead of the 5 minutes 30 seconds. This means we pay for 30 seconds more than the actual holding time and this covers generously the few "30 second hang ups" you may have.


                                        Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                        Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                        • JOKER
                                          Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 2105

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Centurion
                                          I was thinking the very same thing.

                                          Also..how well does your program interact with say existing htpasswd files generated by billers such as ccbill?
                                          Angie was so kind to answer this before in an email to me:

                                          If you choose to use the passwordbyphone.com system to bill your own
                                          content, the following will help you how to implement it to your sites.
                                          (You are also able to use our content and sites at anytime.)

                                          For every password your user calls for they get linked for 30 minutes (or
                                          more) into YOUR content and you get paid for every password sold. In order
                                          to set up the link into your content or member site we will need the
                                          following data:

                                          1) name/title of your site(s)
                                          2) link into your content (protected member area);
                                          example: http://www.example.com/members/

                                          Like with any other online billing systems (eg. your credit card billing
                                          company), PasswordByPhone.com will have to communicate with your systems
                                          member area. It works exactly the same as the linking to your existing
                                          credit card processor. It is accomplished by a small script on your server
                                          which acts as a gateway between the billing company and the technique you
                                          use to secure your member area. This script would add entries to a htpasswd
                                          file (for http basic authentication) or to your database for some kind of
                                          session management. Therefore we need:

                                          3) the url of a script on your server (see example below) to grant the user
                                          30 minutes access / disconnect access through the PasswordByPhone.com
                                          system.

                                          Example:
                                          http://www.example.com/interface/set...=abcdefg&passw
                                          ord=123456

                                          If you are already using other billing methods like credit card payment you
                                          will mostly likely have all you need to integrate PasswordByPhone.com unto
                                          your billing solutions and start to make start to make international money
                                          immediately.

                                          We will need this data for each of the sites you would want to use
                                          PasswordbyPhone in. As soon we have received your info we will set it up and
                                          we will send you an ID for each of your sites (a so-called 'package ID')
                                          which you have to use within the banner codes. You will also get a brief
                                          description on how easy it is to implement the banners and our system into
                                          your sites.


                                          Hope this answers your question.

                                          Thanx,
                                          Steve
                                          Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                          Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                          • JOKER
                                            Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 2105

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                            joker,were you the guy in prague's booth?
                                            I've been to Prague, yes - but I guess I was not the one on the booth, that should have been Oliver.

                                            As mentioned, I'm one of their Affiliates, not directly working for them.

                                            ICQ me and I'll show you who I am
                                            Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                            Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                            • Sneezy
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 450

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
                                              Directly from the PBP FAQ:

                                              What happens if a caller hangs up after 1 or 2 minutes! Do I get paid anyway?

                                              Customers will call to receive a password and will stay on the phone to listen to their password about 98% to 99 % of the time. The caller listens to a interesting 4,5 minute announcement, followed by the password and the password repetition which results in average to a 5 minutes 15 seconds to 5 minutes 30 second call duration.

                                              There are about 2 to 3 percent of callers who hang up during the first 30 to 60 seconds. Once the caller remains over 60 seconds on the phone he will want to listen to the password. After all, this is the reason why the caller is calling and therefore will stay the full duration on the phone. We included the very few "30 second hang ups" into our calculation and will pay for every password of the duration of 6 minutes instead of the 5 minutes 30 seconds. This means we pay for 30 seconds more than the actual holding time and this covers generously the few "30 second hang ups" you may have.


                                              sounds like a good alternative to dialers and voice pin access, but what are you saying here exactly "Customers .......... will stay on the phone to listen to their password about 98% to 99 % of the time."
                                              I think you meant say 99% of all callers will stay the full 5,5 minutes to collect there password. Right?
                                              If that is what you meant, I seriously doubt that. Instant access options like dialers and voice pin access on a per minute basis are choosen by surfers that have the urge to enter a restricted area as fast as possible. The average holdingtime with a dialer (a clean one) is 10 minutes and for voice pin access it is 8 minutes. We call that an average quicky.
                                              Now these type of surfers are not going to choose for the password collection option. So I think your option should be more targeted towards the surfers that are in the market for a membership but want to check out first what they will find inside. So your system will be an alternative for the 3-day trials offerings.

                                              On the subject of what you should payout on any not completed collectings, I would say every minute. I've taken a Dutch per minute rate to illustrate my point.
                                              A Dutch caller staying on the line (against a 80 eurocents/per minute consumerrate) the full period of the time will generate lets say 5,5 times 50 eurocents = 2.75 euro's. Now what were you saying about the unfinished calls? 2 to 3 % hang up after 30 seconds. But what about the 'non-collectors' that hang up after 1, 2 , 3 or 4 or 5 minutes. My quess is that that percentage will be also in the 2 to 3% range. I dont see how this is covered by only paying the completed 5,5 minutes calls and the "30 second hang ups".

                                              Correct me if I'm wrong

                                              no sig 4u

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                                              • Theo
                                                HAL 9000
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 34515

                                                #24
                                                Sneezy, there's SIGNIFICANT difference in connectivity between dialers and such phone numbers. Surfers that call are not tricked or forced to a dial and most of the time they'll listen the whole recording msg. I don't have tested this system yet to be honest, but that's what my logic says.

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                                                • JOKER
                                                  Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 2105

                                                  #25
                                                  Hi,

                                                  first of all:

                                                  This is targeted towards surfers that do not have other billing options, or do not want to use them.

                                                  They are calling for the password, thats what they want, they know it costs money, obviously.

                                                  The Message they are listening to has been created by professionals, who have been in the audiotext business for over 14 years, they know what they do.


                                                  You should understand PBP as an add-on to your existing billingmethods for users that do not have a CreditCard, or dont want a dialer, or their phone-line connected and jerk off under pressure of disconnecting it again.

                                                  As far as paying the 1% that hang up after a few seconds, this is technically not working, as the user gets identified by the password he enters to get into the content. This password is linked to your Affiliate-ID.

                                                  As mentioned, I have been testing PBP for quite some time now, and believe me on that, I've used a lot of alternative billing such as dialers and voice-billing, if I would not think this is the best solution right now and for the next years, do you think I would make this announcement? No Sir.

                                                  Give it a fair try, compare it to your dialer / voice-billing that you use (if you have one that satisfies you) and see for yourself you will stick to it.

                                                  Thanx,
                                                  Steve
                                                  Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                  Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                  • Sneezy
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 450

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                    Sneezy, there's SIGNIFICANT difference in connectivity between dialers and such phone numbers. Surfers that call are not tricked or forced to a dial and most of the time they'll listen the whole recording msg. I don't have tested this system yet to be honest, but that's what my logic says.
                                                    I hear you.
                                                    But I was referring to the first years of the dialers back in 98-99-00. We didn't have to force the surfers back then to install the dialer, thousands of calls were made day in day out at 100% free will. Anybody that wasn't around in that period will have a hard time to believe that that was the case if you look at the present appriciation level for dialers.

                                                    no sig 4u

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                                                    • JOKER
                                                      Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 2105

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                      Sneezy, there's SIGNIFICANT difference in connectivity between dialers and such phone numbers. Surfers that call are not tricked or forced to a dial and most of the time they'll listen the whole recording msg. I don't have tested this system yet to be honest, but that's what my logic says.
                                                      Your logic is correct

                                                      Thanx
                                                      Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                      Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                      • JOKER
                                                        Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 2105

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Sneezy
                                                        I hear you.
                                                        But I was referring to the first years of the dialers back in 98-99-00. We didn't have to force the surfers back then to install the dialer, thousands of calls were made day in day out at 100% free will. Anybody that wasn't around in that period will have a hard time to believe that that was the case if you look at the present appriciation level for dialers.
                                                        Sorry to say it kinda harsh, but comparing systems of 2005 to 1998 will not get you or this discussion anywhere.

                                                        It is 2005, and it is/was time to act. PBP did just that, and in the best way it could have been done.

                                                        No offense intended.

                                                        S.-
                                                        Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                        Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                        • Sneezy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 450

                                                          #29
                                                          Anybodies logic that complies with the contents of your presentation, will be correct in your eyes. But let's just wait and see how many sponsors and webmasters will adopt your system ok. I hope webmasters will accept your 30 second call coverage plan, because when they do and you are generating some serious volumes I will certainly consider offering you some good payout and service rates.

                                                          And listen; you don't have to apologize for being harsh or offensive.....
                                                          ...this is GFY remember?
                                                          Last edited by Sneezy; 05-27-2005, 08:36 PM.

                                                          no sig 4u

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                                                          • JOKER
                                                            Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                            • 2105

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sneezy
                                                            Anybodies logic that complies with the contents of your presentation, will be correct in your eyes. But let's just wait and see how many sponsors and webmasters will adopt your system ok. I hope webmasters will accept your 30 second call coverage plan, because when they do and you are generating some serious volumes I will certainly consider offering you some good payout and service rates.

                                                            And listen; you don't have to apologize for being harsh or offensive.....
                                                            ...this is GFY remember?
                                                            Actually, when I see you have valid points, I'm the first person to suggest changes to the system.

                                                            And of course, offer rates, termination etc, if you have good rates and reliable services, PBP will surely look into it.

                                                            Thanx,
                                                            Steve
                                                            Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                            Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                            • JOKER
                                                              Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                              • 2105

                                                              #31
                                                              Hitting the bed now, will be back in a few.

                                                              Leave your replies here or on ICQ, will answer when I had some sleep.

                                                              Take care and thanx for your business!
                                                              Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                              Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                              • Centurion
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 6033

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
                                                                Angie was so kind to answer this before in an email to me:

                                                                If you choose to use the passwordbyphone.com system to bill your own
                                                                content, the following will help you how to implement it to your sites.
                                                                (You are also able to use our content and sites at anytime.)

                                                                For every password your user calls for they get linked for 30 minutes (or
                                                                more) into YOUR content and you get paid for every password sold. In order
                                                                to set up the link into your content or member site we will need the
                                                                following data:

                                                                1) name/title of your site(s)
                                                                2) link into your content (protected member area);
                                                                example: http://www.example.com/members/

                                                                Like with any other online billing systems (eg. your credit card billing
                                                                company), PasswordByPhone.com will have to communicate with your systems
                                                                member area. It works exactly the same as the linking to your existing
                                                                credit card processor. It is accomplished by a small script on your server
                                                                which acts as a gateway between the billing company and the technique you
                                                                use to secure your member area. This script would add entries to a htpasswd
                                                                file (for http basic authentication) or to your database for some kind of
                                                                session management. Therefore we need:

                                                                3) the url of a script on your server (see example below) to grant the user
                                                                30 minutes access / disconnect access through the PasswordByPhone.com
                                                                system.

                                                                Example:
                                                                http://www.example.com/interface/set...=abcdefg&passw
                                                                ord=123456

                                                                If you are already using other billing methods like credit card payment you
                                                                will mostly likely have all you need to integrate PasswordByPhone.com unto
                                                                your billing solutions and start to make start to make international money
                                                                immediately.

                                                                We will need this data for each of the sites you would want to use
                                                                PasswordbyPhone in. As soon we have received your info we will set it up and
                                                                we will send you an ID for each of your sites (a so-called 'package ID')
                                                                which you have to use within the banner codes. You will also get a brief
                                                                description on how easy it is to implement the banners and our system into
                                                                your sites.


                                                                Hope this answers your question.

                                                                Thanx,
                                                                Steve

                                                                It does Steve..thanks very much.
                                                                Sounds like a very intriguing opportunity. With CCBill declaring so many eastern european countries automatically rejected, having this type of option is something I will definitely want to have for my sites.

                                                                I've read the info you've posted and read the info on your site..but maybe I missed one critical piece of info..are you in biz NOW..or are you going to be in the near future?

                                                                Thanks!

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                                                                • JOKER
                                                                  Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 2105

                                                                  #33
                                                                  This is fully functional and 100% live and running.

                                                                  So start today and generate more international revenue as soon as
                                                                  you have your links / integration up.

                                                                  If you have further questions, I am happy to help, so is Angie and the PBP-support team.

                                                                  Thanx,
                                                                  Steve
                                                                  Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                                  Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                                  • Ace of Spades
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 472

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Glad to see fresh ideas, Looking Good!
                                                                    Do people really click sigs?

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                                                                    • JOKER
                                                                      Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                      • 2105

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Ace of Spades
                                                                      Glad to see fresh ideas, Looking Good!
                                                                      Thanx, it was about time to do something, PBP did
                                                                      Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                                      Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                                      • WpC
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                        • 129

                                                                        #36
                                                                        .... Surfers that call are not tricked or forced to a dial and most of the time they'll listen the whole recording msg. I don't have tested this system yet to be honest, but that's what my logic says.
                                                                        We tested it since some month with our german speaking affiliate program (WPC) and we are very happy with the billing AND the team.

                                                                        It works very well with german speaking traffic.... (and there are dialer 100% dead) and it works also very good with international TGP traffic.

                                                                        You have to test it
                                                                        Send me your german speaking traffic! Email trafficpumpe[at]gmail.com for more Details!

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                                                                        • Doctor Dre
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 51692

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
                                                                          Directly from the PBP FAQ:

                                                                          What happens if a caller hangs up after 1 or 2 minutes! Do I get paid anyway?

                                                                          Customers will call to receive a password and will stay on the phone to listen to their password about 98% to 99 % of the time. The caller listens to a interesting 4,5 minute announcement, followed by the password and the password repetition which results in average to a 5 minutes 15 seconds to 5 minutes 30 second call duration.

                                                                          There are about 2 to 3 percent of callers who hang up during the first 30 to 60 seconds. Once the caller remains over 60 seconds on the phone he will want to listen to the password. After all, this is the reason why the caller is calling and therefore will stay the full duration on the phone. We included the very few "30 second hang ups" into our calculation and will pay for every password of the duration of 6 minutes instead of the 5 minutes 30 seconds. This means we pay for 30 seconds more than the actual holding time and this covers generously the few "30 second hang ups" you may have.


                                                                          I'd be in that 2-3 %
                                                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
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                                                                          • JOKER
                                                                            Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                            • 2105

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                            I'd be in that 2-3 %
                                                                            Why do you pick up the phone then in the first place?

                                                                            Just curious...
                                                                            Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                                            Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                                            • TheSwed
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                              • 3483

                                                                              #39
                                                                              On the site you can read this:

                                                                              "Call ! - Hear Password ! - Hang up !
                                                                              Make a simple phone call to hear your password in 2 minutes! (automated system)"

                                                                              thats not 6 minutes

                                                                              http://www.pinaccesscode.com/euroslu...y=us&language=

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                                                                              • JOKER
                                                                                Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 2105

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by TheSwed
                                                                                On the site you can read this:

                                                                                "Call ! - Hear Password ! - Hang up !
                                                                                Make a simple phone call to hear your password in 2 minutes! (automated system)"

                                                                                thats not 6 minutes

                                                                                http://www.pinaccesscode.com/euroslu...y=us&language=
                                                                                Thanx, will pass this info on to support.

                                                                                Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                                                Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                                                • JOKER
                                                                                  Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                  • 2105

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Fixed .

                                                                                  If you find anything else, don't hesitate to give a heads up.

                                                                                  Thanx
                                                                                  Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                                                  Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                                                  • TheSwed
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                    • 3483

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    okey

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                                                                                    • JOKER
                                                                                      Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                      • 2105

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Nice new sig you have there

                                                                                      Please be so kind and make it comply with the GFY rules though,
                                                                                      dont want you to have any problems.

                                                                                      120x60 banner and 3 lines of text is ok, from what I read.

                                                                                      Thanx,
                                                                                      Steve
                                                                                      Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                                                      Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                                                      • TheSwed
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                        • 3483

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
                                                                                        Nice new sig you have there

                                                                                        Please be so kind and make it comply with the GFY rules though,
                                                                                        dont want you to have any problems.

                                                                                        120x60 banner and 3 lines of text is ok, from what I read.

                                                                                        Thanx,
                                                                                        Steve
                                                                                        done

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                                                                                        • JOKER
                                                                                          Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                                          • 2105

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by TheSwed
                                                                                          done
                                                                                          looking good
                                                                                          Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                                                          Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                                                          • Hinc
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                                            • 2577

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Just signed up, gonna give it a go.
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                                                                                            • JOKER
                                                                                              Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 2105

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Hinc
                                                                                              Just signed up, gonna give it a go.
                                                                                              Thanx a lot, if you need anything, always feel free to hit me up on ICQ
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                                                                                              • Varius
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                                                • 6890

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Looks interesting, I'll definately check it out soon as I get some time
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                                                                                                • JOKER
                                                                                                  Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                  • 2105

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Varius
                                                                                                  Looks interesting, I'll definately check it out soon as I get some time
                                                                                                  You'll def. not regret it

                                                                                                  If you need anything, you know where to find me!


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                                                                                                  Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                                                                  • ThumbLord

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    agreed, this looks very good, together with sms billing you can have a stronghold against Visa or am I wrong here ?

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