wow, now i know submitters are in for some shit. Richards Realm just went paid submission today for 35 bucks a month. allows for 3 submits a day and listing is not guaranteed. Free submissions are still around, but only 1 submission per day and the daily limit was already reached. looks like you have to fork over the cash to be on richards-realm now. what a sad day for submitters...
Richards Realm went paid submissions (35 bucks a month)
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Oh boo hoo. Looks like submitters will have to pay something if they want to make money. His site is not the first and will not be the last either. I personally find this to be a good thing. -
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You're bitching about $35 a month?
If you can't make two sales on 90 listings on RR.. you're in the wrong business.Comment
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who said he will get listed at all?Originally posted by brokeYou're bitching about $35 a month?
If you can't make two sales on 90 listings on RR.. you're in the wrong business.I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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I submitted my free site about 30 minutes ago and didn't notice any change. I haven't submitted my gallery yet, but if I can submit 3 galleries a day, I don't think I have a problem paying $35 monthly. Richard's lists me everyday anyways...Originally posted by Soul_Rebelthats for free sites too?Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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Originally posted by GenieListings at thumbgenie will always be free buddies :D
But i am not able to get a partner's acc with you
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rr is a great siteThis dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
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yeah no shit........Originally posted by markymanI signed up for the paid premium submit account, but wheres the link to the submit page? anyone? I must be blind
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Sad day indeed, I just pulled the plug on our TGP promotion, more profitable angles to spend time on now that you have to pay.... $35 RR, $90 World Sex / Al4A, $49 Pink World, $10 Free Milf, etc etc, ends up around $500 + server bills, Sure if you can get 15-30 sales outta this you will seem ok, You forget you have to pay the kid that makes the galleries and submits them as well each day, which now makes it unproffitable.
Now with that said, if you own the program you are selling you are ok with some rebills, unfortunately this just killed every regular joe who submits for a hopeful $25 signup here and there...
Now only the big boy sponsors are left, soon it will saturate TGP's with all the FHG look and TGP sales will drop to even sadder conversion ratios.
Look at the top tgp's now, its all the same crap day in and day out... Those are just the paid listings thru 1-30, now with paid accounts...surfers are even more fucked with this move.....
LOSE/LOSE situation.
Thanks TGP's for making it rich off our content! Then fucking us on top of it lol.Comment
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Keeps tgp's clean and happy. Its the new wave folks.
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Keep it going that way . I hope every big tgps offer that soon . Will filter out the stupid fuckers who aren'T smart enough to reinvest a bit of their money to get their business going .Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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i think that makes MegaPussy.com TGP the highest traffic sending TGP left out there with free submits, (thats what my logs show for me) free partner account info is on their submit page if you are interested...
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I remember a thread about Pay to Play in 2001. The guy who made the post almost got laughed off GFY. Almost funny how time flies. We haven't seen the end of the changes yet.
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You know, as much as TGPs have fucked conversion ratios in this industry it's about time they start to clean up and make some money in the process. Want to give away free porn for stray sales? Pay the price. If $20 to $35 a month to submit to the BEST TGP's makes it not worthwhile for you then that speaks volumes IMO.Originally posted by teksonlineSad day indeed, I just pulled the plug on our TGP promotion, more profitable angles to spend time on now that you have to pay.... $35 RR, $90 World Sex / Al4A, $49 Pink World, $10 Free Milf, etc etc, ends up around $500 + server bills, Sure if you can get 15-30 sales outta this you will seem ok, You forget you have to pay the kid that makes the galleries and submits them as well each day, which now makes it unproffitable.
Now with that said, if you own the program you are selling you are ok with some rebills, unfortunately this just killed every regular joe who submits for a hopeful $25 signup here and there...
Now only the big boy sponsors are left, soon it will saturate TGP's with all the FHG look and TGP sales will drop to even sadder conversion ratios.
Look at the top tgp's now, its all the same crap day in and day out... Those are just the paid listings thru 1-30, now with paid accounts...surfers are even more fucked with this move.....
LOSE/LOSE situation.
Thanks TGP's for making it rich off our content! Then fucking us on top of it lol.Comment
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I just had 2 recent movie galleries listed on RR and the traffic wasnt all I expected...Your Paysite Partner
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we've bought a lot of submit passes and we don't regret, exception made of a couple.
But I can see the flaw here, and it's purely maths (equals money)
1- Most average submitters won't be able to get traffic for galleries
2- Most average submitters won't be able to pay for submission software+submit passes+content+server bills+.......
3- In this scenario, submissions will drastically go down, so TGP owners will need to fill spots with FHG, but 99.99% of FHG sucks ball for different reasons (lousy designers, oversaturation, whatever). Hence signups will reduce drastically as well.
4- The excuse is to "weed the bad seeds". Well, this is the biggest flaw. He who is a pro cheater has the money to purchase these passes. The regular guys are less prolly to cheat or scam. Or they would be really stupid if after the cheating and scamming they can't even afford 35 bucks.
5- As we all know, TGP traffic quality is worse everyday, surfers have everything for free if they know where to look.
5- To add to all that, galleries aren't guaranteed. In other words: you're purchasing the right to click a button. Nothing else.
The way I see it, program owners should be very concerned about this, and maybe even pay the submit passes to their best affiliates (I won't charge you about this idea
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And a final thought: if TGP owners wants to go this way, they'll need to give 100% exposure to the listed galleries, not using the paying submitter galleries to rotate or skim traffic. Otherwise, you're very close to those "bad seed" you're supposed to fight with this. If I've my gallery listed, which I paid for, i want to see it for at least 24 hours in your site. And when I click on my thumb, with my content, supposed to promote something I planned for, I wanna see nothing but my gallery when clicking. Just my
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This industry's changing, and only the playas will be left. You are starting to see the industry moving in this direction. This isn't news. You need to stay ahead of the curve.
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Originally posted by $5 submissionsI remember a thread about Pay to Play in 2001. The guy who made the post almost got laughed off GFY. Almost funny how time flies. We haven't seen the end of the changes yet.
i made a thread about it years ago and i was told that free traffic from tgps will always be plenty
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I occasionally get rejected for "Not enough nudity." but 9/10 galleries of mine are listed there.Originally posted by NylzIf you don't get listed your galleries probably suck
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ooo I guess that means I'll have to chare RR's budy who's submitting his new program to my TGP!
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oooo nooooo, this industry isn't gonna actually have to start to act like a real business now is it?
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You do realize that the people that KNOW how to make money on his traffic would get more of their galleries approved? RR going to paid submits is hardly a sign he will be loaded with FHG's in a month.Originally posted by alan-lwe've bought a lot of submit passes and we don't regret, exception made of a couple.
But I can see the flaw here, and it's purely maths (equals money)
1- Most average submitters won't be able to get traffic for galleries
2- Most average submitters won't be able to pay for submission software+submit passes+content+server bills+.......
3- In this scenario, submissions will drastically go down, so TGP owners will need to fill spots with FHG, but 99.99% of FHG sucks ball for different reasons (lousy designers, oversaturation, whatever). Hence signups will reduce drastically as well.
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