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  • GatorB
    The Demon & 12clicks
    • Oct 2001
    • 18208
    #1

    Ok Euros what about this?

    So you don't have to abide huh? This is from 2 sponsors TOS and this was BEFORE these new regs passed.

    You shall also be responsible for ensuring that materials posted on your web property do not violate or infringe upon any laws including, but not limited to, 18 U.S.C. Section 2257, or the rights of any third party (including, for example, copyrights, trademarks, privacy, or other personal or proprietary rights), and ensuring that materials posted on your web property are not libelous or otherwise illegal (including depictions of actual, implied or simulated bestiality, rape, incest, child pornography, or any other content deemed inappropriate or illegal).

    and

    Should any law enforcement agency, internet service provider or other person or entity provide us or any company related to us with notice that you have engaged in transmission of unsolicited e-mail or have engaged in otherwise unlawful conduct( I believe not complying with 2257 would be considered unlawful ) or conduct in violation of an internet service provider's terms of service, we reserve the right to cooperate in any investigation relating to your activities including disclosure of your account information.
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    • xclusive
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Apr 2004
      • 35218
      #2
      Of course they have to follow the rules if they want to use US sponsors, billing, or hosting if they don't think so they are fooling themselves

      I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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        • BRISK
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Feb 2003
          • 12240
          #3
          and if they don't use US sponsors?
          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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            • polish_aristocrat
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2002
              • 40377
              #4
              blahhhhhhhhh
              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                • JamesK2
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 6589
                  #5
                  fuck that shit

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                    • Joe Citizen
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 4552
                      #6
                      Do Americans think that our law enforcement enforce US laws?

                      Can people really be that stupid?

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                        • BRISK
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 12240
                          #7
                          Originally posted by GatorB
                          So you don't have to abide huh? This is from 2 sponsors TOS and this was BEFORE these new regs passed.

                          [size=4]You shall also be responsible for ensuring that materials posted on your web property do not violate or infringe upon any laws including, but not limited to, 18 U.S.C. Section 2257, or the rights of any third party (including, for example, copyrights, trademarks, privacy, or other personal or proprietary rights), and ensuring that materials posted on your web property are not libelous or otherwise illegal (including depictions of actual, implied or simulated bestiality, rape, incest, child pornography, or any other content deemed inappropriate or illegal).
                          All that says is that it is the affiliate's responsibility to ensure they are not violating any laws. Do you think any US affiliate program is going to take the time to check and see if a non-US affiliate is actually keeping the correct 2257 documents?

                          Non-US affiliates could just put up some bullshit 2257 notice on their sites because they know neither the US government or the people that run the affiliate programs are ever going to get on a plane and fly to their country to check and see if they are actually keeping any 2257 documents at all.
                          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                            • Dirty F
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 59204
                              #8
                              Yup, the American feds are gonna lift me from my bed here in Amsterdam because i have no 2257 on my site hahaha.

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                                • who
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 19593
                                  #9
                                  I'm going to sue America.

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                                    • PantieZ
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 1441
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by xclusive
                                      Of course they have to follow the rules if they want to use US sponsors, billing, or hosting if they don't think so they are fooling themselves
                                      bullshit !

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                                        • PantieZ
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 1441
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by BRISK
                                          All that says is that it is the affiliate's responsibility to ensure they are not violating any laws. Do you think any US affiliate program is going to take the time to check and see if a non-US affiliate is actually keeping the correct 2257 documents?

                                          Non-US affiliates could just put up some bullshit 2257 notice on their sites because they know neither the US government or the people that run the affiliate programs are ever going to get on a plane and fly to their country to check and see if they are actually keeping any 2257 documents at all.

                                          100% correct

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                                            • eroswebmaster
                                              March 1st, 2003
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 20295
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by BRISK
                                              All that says is that it is the affiliate's responsibility to ensure they are not violating any laws. Do you think any US affiliate program is going to take the time to check and see if a non-US affiliate is actually keeping the correct 2257 documents?

                                              Non-US affiliates could just put up some bullshit 2257 notice on their sites because they know neither the US government or the people that run the affiliate programs are ever going to get on a plane and fly to their country to check and see if they are actually keeping any 2257 documents at all.
                                              To answer your first question...yes I think they will or start tightening down on who they will allow to promote their programs leaving the doors open only to those with reputable references.

                                              Now as far as putting up bullshit 2257 notices if there is ever the need to question the veracity of a notice in the end it will be the US based sponsor who will have to deal with the headache even tho' it may not even be his content....so...with that in mind. Wouldn't you want to work closely with sponsors that you make good money from and ensure that your relationship continues without any issues arising?

                                              Or would you rather that sponsor be forced into a corner where they only accept US based webmasters, those who can be forced to comply with the new regs?
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                                                • BastarD
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                  • 6341
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                                  Yup, the American feds are gonna lift me from my bed here in Amsterdam because i have no 2257 on my site hahaha.

                                                  seconded lol

                                                  The Fuckers are coming wooaah

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                                                    • GatorB
                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 18208
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                      Yup, the American feds are gonna lift me from my bed here in Amsterdam because i have no 2257 on my site hahaha.
                                                      Is that what I said? All all euros this obtuse?

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                                                        • GatorB
                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 18208
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                          Do Americans think that our law enforcement enforce US laws?

                                                          Can people really be that stupid?
                                                          Ever think if you were using a US sponsor and they say in their terms they will give the feds you info then that means the feds can prevent you from getting a CHECK? Or maybe you work for FREE?

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                                                            • Dirty F
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 59204
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                              Ever think if you were using a US sponsor and they say in their terms they will give the feds you info then that means the feds can prevent you from getting a CHECK? Or maybe you work for FREE?



                                                              Dear ARS,

                                                              please dont send Joe Citizen his check next week.

                                                              Cheers,

                                                              Feds.

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                                                                • PantieZ
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 1441
                                                                  #17
                                                                  this is the end of all US based hardcore TGPs ...
                                                                  Europeans will make more money in this biz than ever

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                                                                    • GatorB
                                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 18208
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                      All that says is that it is the affiliate's responsibility to ensure they are not violating any laws. Do you think any US affiliate program is going to take the time to check and see if a non-US affiliate is actually keeping the correct 2257 documents?
                                                                      You really didn't get my point at all.

                                                                      Non-US affiliates could just put up some bullshit 2257 notice on their sites because they know neither the US government or the people that run the affiliate programs are ever going to get on a plane and fly to their country to check and see if they are actually keeping any 2257 documents at all.
                                                                      Yes but considering how adament you Euros are about "This doesn't effect me so fuck America" how many are even willing to go that far? You are so darn sure of yourselves that 99% of you will be too lazy and cocky to put a fake 2257 page up.

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                                                                        • who
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                          • 19593
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                          Ever think if you were using a US sponsor and they say in their terms they will give the feds you info then that means the feds can prevent you from getting a CHECK? Or maybe you work for FREE?
                                                                          If you don't get a check because 'the feds don't let you', then you have been taken for a fool.

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                                                                            • GatorB
                                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 18208
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Franck
                                                                              Dear ARS,

                                                                              please dont send Joe Citizen his check next week.

                                                                              Cheers,

                                                                              Feds.
                                                                              Feds could seize ARS's bank accounts.

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                                                                                • GatorB
                                                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                  • 18208
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by .?.
                                                                                  If you don't get a check because 'the feds don't let you', then you have been taken for a fool.
                                                                                  WTF does that mean? Speak the english

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                                                                                    • eroswebmaster
                                                                                      March 1st, 2003
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 20295
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by PantieZ
                                                                                      this is the end of all US based hardcore TGPs ...
                                                                                      Europeans will make more money in this biz than ever
                                                                                      Could very well be the end of US based sponsors accepting non-us webmasters.
                                                                                      For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
                                                                                      Click here for more details

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                                                                                        • BRISK
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                          • 12240
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                          Ever think if you were using a US sponsor and they say in their terms they will give the feds you info then that means the feds can prevent you from getting a CHECK? Or maybe you work for FREE?
                                                                                          ...and so they just stop sending that program traffic and send it to another one.
                                                                                          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                            • GatorB
                                                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 18208
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by PantieZ
                                                                                              this is the end of all US based hardcore TGPs ...
                                                                                              Europeans will make more money in this biz than ever
                                                                                              No it won't. That's stupid.

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                                                                                                • who
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                  • 19593
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                  WTF does that mean? Speak the english
                                                                                                  You mean I should bastardize into American?

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                                                                                                    • Dirty F
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                      • 59204
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                      Feds could seize ARS's bank accounts.
                                                                                                      Yup they could.


                                                                                                      And theyre gonna do that because Joe from Australia has no 2257 on his site

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                                                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                                                          ...and so they just stop sending that program traffic and send it to another one.

                                                                                                          How many checks are you willing to lose before you comply?

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                                                                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                              • 20295
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                                                              ...and so they just stop sending that program traffic and send it to another one.
                                                                                                              Ever think that maybe sponsors might tighten up who they allow in their programs starting with those affiliates who have given other sponsors issues to worry about?
                                                                                                              For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
                                                                                                              Click here for more details

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                                                                                                                • GatorB
                                                                                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                  • 18208
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                                  Yup they could.


                                                                                                                  And theyre gonna do that because Joe from Australia has no 2257 on his site
                                                                                                                  Man some of you are ignorant or just being assholes.

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                                                                                                                    • BRISK
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                      • 12240
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                      You really didn't get my point at all.
                                                                                                                      OK, what was your point?
                                                                                                                      I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                                                      I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                                                        • Dopy
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                          • 1572
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                          So you don't have to abide huh? This is from 2 sponsors TOS and this was BEFORE these new regs passed.

                                                                                                                          BLA BLA BLA
                                                                                                                          Correction - no we don't - we have the opportunity to go down other avenues.
                                                                                                                          I could shoot content all day long here and publish it legally on the net without even thinking about US law.

                                                                                                                          And if I want to legally get around sponsors TOS, no problem. Its so easy to send traffic into a fully compliant page or site, get my drift.

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                                                                                                                            • Dirty F
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                              • 59204
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Look everybody. Gatorb is upset because soon he will have huge problems operating adult sites soon since he lives in a retarded country. Now hes pissed off at the world and starts attacking Europeans because 2257 doesnt bug them.

                                                                                                                              How sad.

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                                                                                                                                • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                  March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 20295
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                                                  Yup they could.


                                                                                                                                  And theyre gonna do that because Joe from Australia has no 2257 on his site
                                                                                                                                  I don't think it will be an issue of Feds seizing anything, however I think it will be an issue of companies not wanting to worry about dealing with problem webmasters who could very well jeopardize their livelihood...so...terminate their accounts.
                                                                                                                                  For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
                                                                                                                                  Click here for more details

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                                                                                                                                    • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 59204
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                      I don't think it will be an issue of Feds seizing anything, however I think it will be an issue of companies not wanting to worry about dealing with problem webmasters who could very well jeopardize their livelihood...so...terminate their accounts.
                                                                                                                                      Thats a possibility.

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                                                                                                                                        • BRISK
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 12240
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                          How many checks are you willing to lose before you comply?
                                                                                                                                          I am 2257 compliant already.
                                                                                                                                          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                                                                          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                                                                            • BRISK
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 12240
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                              Ever think that maybe sponsors might tighten up who they allow in their programs starting with those affiliates who have given other sponsors issues to worry about?
                                                                                                                                              Yes, I'm sure they would.
                                                                                                                                              I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                                                                              I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                                                                                • Manowar
                                                                                                                                                  jellyfish  
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 71528
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  lol salut tu monde

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                                                                                                                                                    • who
                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 19593
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                                                                      Look everybody. Gatorb is upset because soon he will have huge problems operating adult sites soon since he lives in a retarded country. Now hes pissed off at the world and starts attacking Europeans because 2257 doesnt bug them.

                                                                                                                                                      How sad.
                                                                                                                                                      Yep, that just about sums it up. He's not trying to be constructive at all, he's just attacking everyone who steps into this thread.

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                                                                                                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                                                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                                          Wouldn't you want to work closely with sponsors that you make good money from and ensure that your relationship continues without any issues arising?
                                                                                                                                                          Does it seem like it from what most euros post? If I was an American sponsor and reading these boards and the attitudes of the non-Americans and how they think this is a JOKE, I'd be closing all non-American accounts.

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                                                                                                                                                            • GatorB
                                                                                                                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 18208
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                                                                                                              I am 2257 compliant already.
                                                                                                                                                              The WTF is your problem then?

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                                                                                                                                                                • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                                                  March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 20295
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  In the end, I think it's in any affiliates best interest to work with their favorite sponsors so that sponsor will still be around paying them on time every time whether it's 1 year from now or 10.
                                                                                                                                                                  For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
                                                                                                                                                                  Click here for more details

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                                                                                                                                                                    • BRISK
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 12240
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                      The WTF is your problem then?
                                                                                                                                                                      I never said I had a problem. Looks to me like you are the one with the problem. Looks like you're jealous because non-Americans have options of getting around 2257, and you don't.
                                                                                                                                                                      I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                                                                                                      I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 40377
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                                                          Could very well be the end of US based sponsors accepting non-us webmasters.
                                                                                                                                                                          idiot



                                                                                                                                                                          just like SleazyDream once said, by calling you idiot I only refer to the particular comment you made and that doesnt mean that I think you're really an idiot, in fact I think the opposite
                                                                                                                                                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 20295
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                              idiot



                                                                                                                                                                              just like SleazyDream once said, by calling you idiot I only refer to the particular comment you made and that doesnt mean that I think you're really an idiot, in fact I think the opposite
                                                                                                                                                                              LOL okay.
                                                                                                                                                                              I don't know if you're agreeing with me or what.

                                                                                                                                                                              If you disagree then explain to me why this would NOT happen, don't just attack.
                                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by eroswebmaster; 05-26-2005, 03:48 AM.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 40377
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                                  Man some of you are ignorant or just being assholes.
                                                                                                                                                                                  man, aren't you the one who is always 'anti Bush'?

                                                                                                                                                                                  so if you're anti-Bush then you should realise that the America does not and shouldbt be controlling the whole world

                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • BRISK
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 12240
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                                                                      Could very well be the end of US based sponsors accepting non-us webmasters.
                                                                                                                                                                                      and the rise of non-us sponsor programs because non-Americans are less and less likely to want to do any business with American companies.
                                                                                                                                                                                      I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                                                                                                                      I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                                                                                                          Look everybody. Gatorb is upset because soon he will have huge problems operating adult sites soon since he lives in a retarded country. Now hes pissed off at the world and starts attacking Europeans because 2257 doesnt bug them.

                                                                                                                                                                                          How sad.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Um no. I don't even use content MORON as I have stated MANY MANY times. I can't help if you don't bother READING or getting FACTS about people before you post moronic comments about them. 2257 doesn't even effect ME. I'm just trying playting Devil's Advocate. Sorry if trying to HELP you causes you problems. Is it not better to see potential problems that may come and and be prepare than to stick your head in the sand like an ostrich?

                                                                                                                                                                                          I never attacked ANYONE. PROVE that buddy. Ok If you were on train tracks and a train is coming on you don't know it and I push you out of the way I'm "attacking" you. OK. Now fuck off Euro trash.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 40377
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              to get my point clear, if you are an European with a 500 uniques per day thumbs tgp not complying with some bullshit 2257 rules, then believe me, noone's gona notice you, the feds wont care about you, they wont even know that you exist

                                                                                                                                                                                              and if you're a 400k thumb tgp, then you also dont have to worry about this bullshit, 'cause when you have huge traffic and can send many joins, the sponsors will suck your dick and take your traffic anyway
                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 59204
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Um no. I don't even use content MORON as I have stated MANY MANY times. I can't help if you don't bother READING or getting FACTS about people before you post moronic comments about them. 2257 doesn't even effect ME. I'm just trying playting Devil's Advocate. Sorry if trying to HELP you causes you problems. Is it not better to see potential problems that may come and and be prepare than to stick your head in the sand like an ostrich?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I never attacked ANYONE. PROVE that buddy. Ok If you were on train tracks and a train is coming on you don't know it and I push you out of the way I'm "attacking" you. OK. Now fuck off Euro trash.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 18208
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                                                      man, aren't you the one who is always 'anti Bush'?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      so if you're anti-Bush then you should realise that the America does not and shouldbt be controlling the whole world

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Did I ever say I was FOR these rules. I think you guys have problems with CONTEXT. Try reading what I say without your "I hate America and all Americans" mindset. You guys are AWFULLY defensive.

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