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  • xxxjay
    Tube groupie.
    • Aug 2002
    • 13482
    #1

    Meet the Opposition: www.obscenitycrimes.org

    I?m not sure what the deal with this site is. It is #1 for ?obscenity? when you search on Google:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ty&btnG=Search

    It claims to be run by:

    Morality in Media, Inc. (MIM) is a national non-profit [501(c)(3)] organization that works through constitutional means to curb illegal traffic in obscenity and uphold standards of decency in media. MIM's offices are located in New York City at 475 Riverside Drive, New York, NY 10115.

    However, I find it very strange that in the DOJ Obscenity Prosecution News that there is a very prominent link to this site at in the bottom left hand side of the PDF:

    http://www.adultinternetlaw.com/docs....obs032604.pdf

    Everyone really needs to be supporting the FSC because it appears to me that the DOJ is also ready to put up a good fight and is raising money.

    Anybody else know anything about this site? I think it is government propaganda.
    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/
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    • AdPatron
      No commissions, no fees.
      • Apr 2003
      • 17706
      #2
      They want to piss on your free speech.

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        • KMR Stitch
          I am cool
          • Jul 2003
          • 14494
          #3
          I say fuck em (redneck accent)

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            • xxxjay
              Tube groupie.
              • Aug 2002
              • 13482
              #4
              I forgot to include the url in the body of the 1st post, it is:
              http://www.obscenitycrimes.org/

              You will also notice it in the DOJ PDF.
              http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                • The Sultan Of Smut
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 4325
                  #5
                  These nuts will always be around. There are countless forms of violence commited everyday but the quacks can only see evil in some lonely guy tossing off to some free smut online. Unfortanately the nuts are in power now...

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                    • Funky Bastard
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 2544
                      #6
                      I think everybody's going to have to get out of the US

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                        • xxxjay
                          Tube groupie.
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13482
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Funky Bastard
                          I think everybody's going to have to get out of the US
                          If your site is visible in the US - it makes no difference! Sorry, can't get out that way!
                          http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                            • warlock5
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2808
                              #8
                              damn, they were smart enough to register the .com

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                                • xxxjay
                                  Tube groupie.
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 13482
                                  #9
                                  I went over this website with a fine-tooth comb...They seemed to have a million ideas about how to stop porn or bad TV, but never once did they mention WHAT YOU CAN DO AS A PARENT to keep you kids from these kinds of materials.
                                  http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                    • Doctor Dre
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 51692
                                      #10
                                      Gotta love the gayish colors of the webhsite
                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                        • warlock5
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 2808
                                          #11
                                          How about keep your kids the fuck away from the Catholic Church.

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                                            • GatorB
                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 18208
                                              #12
                                              It's ironic that Christian right wing anti-abortion people can find people in their groups with the balls to bombs clinics and shoot abortion doctors yet us evil porn guys can't find even ONE nutjob willing to take these fuckers out

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                                                • w0rstluk
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 78
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                  If your site is visible in the US - it makes no difference! Sorry, can't get out that way!
                                                  united states laws do not apply to non U.S citzens. got it?

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                                                    • GatorB
                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 18208
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by w0rstluk
                                                      united states laws do not apply to non U.S citzens. got it?
                                                      Ok please explain this to the religious right and republicans. When you get it thru their thick skulls let me know.

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                                                        • w0rstluk
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 78
                                                          #15
                                                          i dont give a shit about them. i didnt vote for that fuckin idiot. its amazing how many idiots are on this board telling other people outside the U.S. to comply. the united states does not run the fuckin internet. And im not breaking my own countries law to adhere to theirs. "yeah you should comply, don't be shady, you are only risking going to jail". idiots

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                                                            • smack
                                                              Push Porn Like Weight.
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 10652
                                                              #16
                                                              they claim to be doing this constitutionally. what constitution are they fucking reading?
                                                              Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                                • eroswebmaster
                                                                  March 1st, 2003
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 20295
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by w0rstluk
                                                                  i dont give a shit about them. i didnt vote for that fuckin idiot. its amazing how many idiots are on this board telling other people outside the U.S. to comply. the united states does not run the fuckin internet. And im not breaking my own countries law to adhere to theirs. "yeah you should comply, don't be shady, you are only risking going to jail". idiots
                                                                  Okay, so when you get your non-american processor, non-american sponsors, non-american hosting, non-american *fill in the blank* lined up...let us know.
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                                                                    • w0rstluk
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                      • 78
                                                                      #18
                                                                      you are stupid

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                                                                        • eroswebmaster
                                                                          March 1st, 2003
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 20295
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by w0rstluk
                                                                          you are stupid
                                                                          do you deal with any american sponsors?
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                                                                            • w0rstluk
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                              • 78
                                                                              #20
                                                                              yes my 2257 info is located at 1235 dipshit drive in panama
                                                                              is the united states going to fly someone over and check?

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                                                                                • exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                  • 141
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                  do you deal with any american sponsors?
                                                                                  Sponsors can't check for compliance.

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                                                                                    • eroswebmaster
                                                                                      March 1st, 2003
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 20295
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Good luck with that.
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                                                                                        • w0rstluk
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 78
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          lol even when you are wrong you can't admit it
                                                                                          explain to me the part where I need good luck?

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                                                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 20295
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by w0rstluk
                                                                                              lol even when you are wrong you can't admit it
                                                                                              explain to me the part where I need good luck?
                                                                                              When you get termed by a sponsor or a processor because they can't check for compliance..don't come running back here.
                                                                                              For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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                                                                                                • thonglife
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                                                  • 1566
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by w0rstluk
                                                                                                  lol even when you are wrong you can't admit it
                                                                                                  explain to me the part where I need good luck?
                                                                                                  Who's sending you your checks/transfers?

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                                                                                                    • exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                                      • 141
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                      When you get termed by a sponsor or a processor because they can't check for compliance..don't come running back here.
                                                                                                      Sponsors can't even afford to check compliance of their own US webmasters, let alone foreign affiliates.

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                                                                                                        • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                          March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                          • 20295
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                          Sponsors can't even afford to check compliance of their own US webmasters, let alone foreign affiliates.
                                                                                                          Like I said, good luck with that.

                                                                                                          If things continue to go this way and it's too much of a hassle, I can see some sponsors cranking down on who they will allow as affiliates so they don't have to worry about rogue webmasters. You'll have to apply and there be a real thorough examination of who you are possibly even requesting references.


                                                                                                          I know of major sponsors right now who are pushing away from the affiliate model as much as they can, especially when they can generate their own inhouse traffic and not worry about the cheaters or where the traffic is coming from and how.
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                                                                                                            • w0rstluk
                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                              • 78
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              forget it this guy is dumb
                                                                                                              he wont admit it. good luck with your paperwork douche bag

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                                                                                                                • DateDoc
                                                                                                                  Outside looking in.
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                  • 14243
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                  Sponsors can't check for compliance.
                                                                                                                  Hmmm, lets say I am a sponsor and you are the affiliate. You are using my materials to promote my website. If you host any of my images I'd make sure you had all the proper documentation. Why? Because if you don't have it I am sure that DOJ is probably going to come check and make sure I have it. Will I have it? Yes. Will I be thrilled that because of you I have to deal with the DOJ? No. Please just consider your account closed and all monies earned forfeited.

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                                                                                                                    • exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                                                      • 141
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      You can even pretend you don't use explicit photo content by stripping refferrer's from your sponsor codes or traffic going to your processor.

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                                                                                                                        • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                          March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                          • 20295
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by w0rstluk
                                                                                                                          forget it this guy is dumb
                                                                                                                          he wont admit it. good luck with your paperwork douche bag
                                                                                                                          LOL even when you're wrong you won't admit it. You just lash out with name calling.
                                                                                                                          Good luck with that.
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                                                                                                                            • exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • May 2005
                                                                                                                              • 141
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BusterPorn
                                                                                                                              Hmmm, lets say I am a sponsor and you are the affiliate. You are using my materials to promote my website. If you host any of my images I'd make sure you had all the proper documentation. Why? Because if you don't have it I am sure that DOJ is probably going to come check and make sure I have it. Will I have it? Yes. Will I be thrilled that because of you I have to deal with the DOJ? No. Please just consider your account closed and all monies earned forfeited.
                                                                                                                              You are talking about sponsors flying all over the world to inspect documents without any justification... you can't possibly be serious in thinking this is a feasible scenario...

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                                                                                                                                • exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 141
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                  LOL even when you're wrong you won't admit it. You just lash out with name calling.
                                                                                                                                  Good luck with that.
                                                                                                                                  Please give me the name of one sponsor with the bank account capable of inspecting documentation for all of their affiliates.

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                                                                                                                                    • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                      March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 20295
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                      You are talking about sponsors flying all over the world to inspect documents without any justification... you can't possibly be serious in thinking this is a feasible scenario...
                                                                                                                                      Nope that is not what he said at all.
                                                                                                                                      He just made up a scenario where he has to deal with extra paperwork because a webmaster promoting his program caused him hassle with the law...so once he gets it corrected he terminates your account and all monies you have earned are forfieted and now he doesn't have to worry about you anymore.
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                                                                                                                                        • DWB
                                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 31779
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                                                                                                                                          I say fuck em (redneck accent)
                                                                                                                                          I speak fluent red neck... Your accent was good.

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                                                                                                                                            • exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2005
                                                                                                                                              • 141
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                              Nope that is not what he said at all.
                                                                                                                                              He just made up a scenario where he has to deal with extra paperwork because a webmaster promoting his program caused him hassle with the law...so once he gets it corrected he terminates your account and all monies you have earned are forfieted and now he doesn't have to worry about you anymore.


                                                                                                                                              I can't believe how difficult this is to get through to you.

                                                                                                                                              The US government cannot inspect records of foreign affiliates. You are making up some hypothetical scenario of a sponsor getting in trouble for an affiliate not being in compliance while the US government cannot possibly know whether or not the affiliate is in compliance. How does this 'hassle with the law' come about?

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                                                                                                                                                • xxxjay
                                                                                                                                                  Tube groupie.
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 13482
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by w0rstluk
                                                                                                                                                  united states laws do not apply to non U.S citzens. got it?
                                                                                                                                                  If your site is visible in the US -- then it must comply with US law becasue you are doing business here. End of story.
                                                                                                                                                  http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                                                                                                    • exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                      • 141
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                                                                                                      If your site is visible in the US -- then it must comply with US law becasue you are doing business here. End of story.
                                                                                                                                                      With no way of enforcement or punishing businesses not complying it's not much of a law in the practical sense.

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                                                                                                                                                        • xclusive
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 35218
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          First off that link is very scary and a testament to the lengths that they will go to and i'll have to dig into it some more. The there is this Noob Eroswebmaster talking out his ass.***Major Sarcasm there*** Seriously though if you are going to want to make money you are going to have to comply with the law to the best of your ability. Do you think that an affiliate program is going to risk thier business for you? Get your head out of your ass and learn to respect and learn from the law even if you don't like it. Eros is a smart guy and this isn't the time to be fighting it's a time to work together and make the most of the situation.

                                                                                                                                                          I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                                                                                                                            • xclusive
                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 35218
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                                              With no way of enforcement or punishing businesses not complying it's not much of a law in the practical sense.
                                                                                                                                                              They could block your sites from us servers no problem. Many countries like china already do this and it will put a serious limitation to your business.

                                                                                                                                                              I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                                                                                                                                • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                                                  March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 20295
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by exportyourbiz-com


                                                                                                                                                                  I can't believe how difficult this is to get through to you.

                                                                                                                                                                  The US government cannot inspect records of foreign affiliates. You are making up some hypothetical scenario of a sponsor getting in trouble for an affiliate not being in compliance while the US government cannot possibly know whether or not the affiliate is in compliance. How does this 'hassle with the law' come about?
                                                                                                                                                                  LOL you are the one who is being difficult to understand.

                                                                                                                                                                  Let's say you are promoting for sponsor A who lives in BumFuck, Nevada, America.
                                                                                                                                                                  You are using their content to promote them, but you are living in BumFuck, Argentina.
                                                                                                                                                                  Someone sees your for example gallery that you built using SponsorA's content to promote his site.
                                                                                                                                                                  You did not link to the 2257 information as stated in their terms of service.
                                                                                                                                                                  A surfer sees the model and thinks..."Hmm..she looks awfully young." and reports it to their District Attorney in BumFuck, Arkansas.
                                                                                                                                                                  The District Attorney in BumFuck, Arkansa contacts the District Attorney in BumFuck, Nevada who then sends out investigators to check out Sponsor A's legal documents.
                                                                                                                                                                  Now because the owner of SponsorA has to go through the hassle of the Law visiting his offices he no longer wants to deal with the webmaster in BumFuck, Argentina who thinks they do not have to comply with 2257 laws because they are not US citizens.
                                                                                                                                                                  So the owner of Sponsor A who is compelled by law to follow those laws, and does not with to spend any jail time just becaues a webmaster in BumFuck, Argentina thinks he/she deserves his/her $30pps will now just close said webmasters account.

                                                                                                                                                                  Figure it out yet.

                                                                                                                                                                  Not saying this is how it will happen, not saying this WILL happen...but just because you are outside the US don't think this does not affect you in anyway shape or form.

                                                                                                                                                                  When it affects your business to business peers, it does affect you.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                                                      March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 20295
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                                                      With no way of enforcement or punishing businesses not complying it's not much of a law in the practical sense.
                                                                                                                                                                      The way it's enforced is sponsors won't work with you, unless you work within the confinements of the US law.

                                                                                                                                                                      Why?

                                                                                                                                                                      Because they have to, and don't want to go to jail for you.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                                          • 141
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          The obvious solution is fake addresses for the Custodian of Records, it was already mentioned in this thread.

                                                                                                                                                                          Nobody can check if the records actually exist or not.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 18208
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                                                              Sponsors can't check for compliance.
                                                                                                                                                                              Oh really? Then how come even though beastiality is legal in some countries but webmaster from those countries can be banned from sponsors if they used beastiality content on to promote those sponsors sites? I eman after all if it's legal where you live how can a sponsor do that? Um..... BECAUSE THEY CAN. So if a sponsor puts in their TOS that ALL affiliates have to abide by 2257 they certianly can kick you out of thier program is you choose not to abide by 2257 not matter WHERE you live.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 141
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh really? Then how come even though beastiality is legal in some countries but webmaster from those countries can be banned from sponsors if they used beastiality content on to promote those sponsors sites? I eman after all if it's legal where you live how can a sponsor do that? Um..... BECAUSE THEY CAN. So if a sponsor puts in their TOS that ALL affiliates have to abide by 2257 they certianly can kick you out of thier program is you choose not to abide by 2257 not matter WHERE you live.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Apples & oranges.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I can sit at my office in Vegas and see that a foreign webmaster is using beastiality on his sites. I can't sit in my office in Vegas and inspect somebody's records on the other side of the world.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I would have to physically travel to the Custodian of Records to inspect the documents.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 30209
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                                                                      do you deal with any american sponsors?
                                                                                                                                                                                      So what ????

                                                                                                                                                                                      If he resides out of the US, host outside of the US, uses non-us billers ....

                                                                                                                                                                                      He advertises with pics some US sites ... Noty his problem. The US site , they must conform, not him ....

                                                                                                                                                                                      This is an american law for american corps and individuals. Foreigners are liable only if they host in the US and/or process in the US and mainly if they break the law in THEIR COUNTRY !
                                                                                                                                                                                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                                                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • xxxjay
                                                                                                                                                                                          Tube groupie.
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 13482
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                                                                          The obvious solution is fake addresses for the Custodian of Records, it was already mentioned in this thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Nobody can check if the records actually exist or not.
                                                                                                                                                                                          That is a violation of the law in itself.
                                                                                                                                                                                          http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                                                                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 20295
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                                                              So what ????

                                                                                                                                                                                              If he resides out of the US, host outside of the US, uses non-us billers ....

                                                                                                                                                                                              He advertises with pics some US sites ... Noty his problem. The US site , they must conform, not him ....

                                                                                                                                                                                              This is an american law for american corps and individuals. Foreigners are liable only if they host in the US and/or process in the US and mainly if they break the law in THEIR COUNTRY !
                                                                                                                                                                                              LOL dude try reading the thread..that is the point I made...but you're always too worked up about trying to be Anti-American it clouds your comprehension.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Like I told him up above get all the non-us counterparts lined up.

                                                                                                                                                                                              But if he does work with US sponsors yeah it's their responsibility to conform...but if you think they are going to allow webmasters who won't help them to conform to continue to promote them...once again good luck with that.




                                                                                                                                                                                              I guess maybe the solution is for all US sponsors to just cancel all non-us affiliates..you guys don't seem to want to work out a solution where the US sponsor can continue to operate their business without legal hassle.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Where does that get you in the end? Maybe some of your favorite sponsors shut down?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • exportyourbiz-com
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                                                                                                                                                  That is a violation of the law in itself.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes but foreign webmasters have full indemnity of the law that they are technically violating.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  The records cannot be verified for foreign webmasters.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Back to square one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • DateDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Outside looking in.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by exportyourbiz-com
                                                                                                                                                                                                      With no way of enforcement or punishing businesses not complying it's not much of a law in the practical sense.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lets look at this example: The US DOJ sends you an email requesting to see your 2257 compliance information as they cannot find it on your website. You, not being American, either ignore them or send them a smartass email. Since they can't get in touch with you they target the sponsor. Do you really think a sponsor wants that? Are all your sponsors now going to be based outside of the US, not owned by a US citizen/resident, have offshore web hosting and European billing? You may not want to comply but a sponsor may close your account if you don't. CYA buddy. the sponsor surely will his.

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