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  • fedfest
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    • May 2002
    • 1334
    #1

    Won't Google have a 2257 problem ?

    Just imagine them having Id's for all images in the image search *lol*

    So eigther they would have to shut down the image search, at least for any adult related keywords, or hosting images that are not yours (google.. Tgp's.. affiliates..etc.) should be okay.. right ?
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    • crockett
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      • May 2003
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      #2
      the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..
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        • fusionx
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          • Nov 2003
          • 4618
          #3
          Originally posted by crockett
          the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..
          Doesn't have to be on their server - they are still publishing the image.

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            • GatorB
              The Demon & 12clicks
              • Oct 2001
              • 18208
              #4
              Originally posted by crockett
              the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..
              If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

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                • fedfest
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                  • May 2002
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by crockett
                  the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..
                  It's still displayed on their site though, can't see it should make a difference..
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                    • fusionx
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                      • Nov 2003
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by GatorB
                      If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.
                      Can you point to a source that shows that google got an exemption?

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                        • MandyBlake
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                          • Nov 2002
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by GatorB
                          If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.
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                            • darnit
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                              • Jul 2001
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                              #8
                              They cannot "reasonably" control the content.

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                                • thonglife
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                                  • Oct 2004
                                  • 1566
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                  If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.
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                                    • fedfest
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by darnit
                                      They cannot "reasonably" control the content.
                                      Well I'm about to get my 3'rd 250GB disc for content and all that content can be pretty damn hard to "reasonably" control too, think that will be a vallid excuse

                                      Would be pretty easy for them to control by simply not showing images for any adult related search terms.. Though no one would probably use the image search anymore then.
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                                        • nico-t
                                          emperor of my world
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 29901
                                          #11
                                          no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?

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                                            • fusionx
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                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 4618
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by nico-t
                                              no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?
                                              http://images.google.com/images?q=pu...en&sa=N&tab=wi

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                                                • fedfest
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by nico-t
                                                  no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?
                                                  Think you just got to turn "safe surf" off
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                                                    • nico-t
                                                      emperor of my world
                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 29901
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by fedfest
                                                      Think you just got to turn "safe surf" off
                                                      where the fuck is safe surf? i cant go to google.com, it redirects to .nl. That direct link worked, i got porn pics, but here are my reults of pussy:
                                                      http://images.google.nl/images?q=pus...=Google+zoeken

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                                                        • nico-t
                                                          emperor of my world
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 29901
                                                          #15
                                                          jesus christ the .nl got everything the same as the .com BUT a safe search box lol....

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                                                            • Fatum
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                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                              • 459
                                                              #16
                                                              http://images.google.com/images?q=p...:en&sa=N&tab=wi
                                                              hmmm..pussy

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                                                                • fedfest
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                                                                  • 1334
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                  jesus christ the .nl got everything the same as the .com BUT a safe search box lol....
                                                                  Just the other way around for me, probably has to do with the language settings.

                                                                  Btw. what does "Bedoelde u:" mean ? would that posibly be the one to allow adult material ?
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                                                                    • fedfest
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by fedfest
                                                                      Just the other way around for me, probably has to do with the language settings.

                                                                      Btw. what does "Bedoelde u:" mean ? would that posibly be the one to allow adult material ?
                                                                      Never mind.. think that was just the spell check *lol*
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                                                                        • Fatum
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Enter google and click "Google.com in English" and than "preferences"
                                                                          here you will see SafeSearch Filtering

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                                                                            • fireorange
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                                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                                              • 1648
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                              If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.
                                                                              The porn companies will take them to court.

                                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                                              the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..
                                                                              No No No No No No.

                                                                              Google Images does not hotlink, they are thumbnails of the original picture hosted on GOOG's servers. Like a Thumb TGP.

                                                                              SERP: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=cumshot&sa=N&tab=wi

                                                                              Thumb1: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...ot-closeup.jpg
                                                                              Thumb2: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...om/Cumshot.jpg

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                                                                                • fusionx
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                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                  • 4618
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  What's worse is google's display of cached pages.. they could kill the image search for adult.. but if they kill caching for adult pages, bye bye google listings. There's no way they'll list all the results without caching.

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                                                                                    • Steen2
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                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                      • 7662
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                      the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..
                                                                                      Wrong.
                                                                                      Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.
                                                                                      Bullshit (in most cases).
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                                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Steen2
                                                                                          Bullshit (in most cases).
                                                                                          Worked for Google

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                                                                                            • fusionx
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                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 4618
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                              Worked for Google
                                                                                              Do you have a source for that? A news article or anything?

                                                                                              I haven't seen anything that said google got an exemption from 2257.

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                                                                                                • MegaBondage
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 101
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?

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                                                                                                    • GatorB
                                                                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                      • 18208
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by MegaBondage
                                                                                                      I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?
                                                                                                      internet porn is dead. leave now.

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                                                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by fusionx
                                                                                                          Do you have a source for that? A news article or anything?

                                                                                                          I haven't seen anything that said google got an exemption from 2257.
                                                                                                          At least 2 people posted WHY google is exempt already. I can 100% guarantee you that on June 23rd you will NOT see a 2257 link on google images.

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                                                                                                            • TheSenator
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                              • 13330
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I don't think http://www.google.com/ has an exemption.
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                                                                                                                • MegaBondage
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                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                  • 101
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Heh I found after 5 uyears in adult online that mainstream REALLY DOES make more money, not just one product, but get many different products.

                                                                                                                  They sell very quickly.

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                                                                                                                    • Kevsh
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                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                      • 8619
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Be like Google, fake an "image search" script to let users find images on "other sites". You are all smart people, you'll figure out how to do it.

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                                                                                                                        • datatank
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Altavista runs a thumbs TGP too

                                                                                                                          http://www.altavista.com/image/resul...ult%2Ffetishes
                                                                                                                          You may have to turn off the family filter and agree with the term but its a very nice tgp and they use Categories and have sponsor listings.

                                                                                                                          To bad they dont list FHG yet

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                                                                                                                            • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                              • 51692
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              With all the data google can possibly get from surfers, do you really think the us GOV wnat to go to war with google ? they want them on their side
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                                                                                                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                                                • pstation
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  ok die now
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                                                                                                                                    • GatorB
                                                                                                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 18208
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheSenator
                                                                                                                                      I don't think http://www.google.com/ has an exemption.
                                                                                                                                      So in 29 days google will have 1.7 million 2257 docs for just THIS word?

                                                                                                                                      http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...rn&btnG=Search

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                                                                                                                                        • darnit
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                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by fusionx
                                                                                                                                          Do you have a source for that? A news article or anything?

                                                                                                                                          I haven't seen anything that said google got an exemption from 2257.
                                                                                                                                          Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

                                                                                                                                          (v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

                                                                                                                                          Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

                                                                                                                                          pretty clear cut

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                                                                                                                                            • Steen2
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                              Worked for Google
                                                                                                                                              It may have, but I would be surprised to hear it.
                                                                                                                                              I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?
                                                                                                                                              17% drop is searches? I think they're better off finding another way to deal with regulations or bad adult PR.
                                                                                                                                              Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

                                                                                                                                              (v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

                                                                                                                                              pretty clear cut
                                                                                                                                              So if I run a usenet search for (adult) images, I should be ok?
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                                                                                                                                                • fusionx
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by darnit
                                                                                                                                                  Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

                                                                                                                                                  (v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

                                                                                                                                                  Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

                                                                                                                                                  pretty clear cut
                                                                                                                                                  Bingo.. thanks for pointing that out.

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                                                                                                                                                    • fedfest
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by darnit
                                                                                                                                                      Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

                                                                                                                                                      (v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

                                                                                                                                                      Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

                                                                                                                                                      pretty clear cut
                                                                                                                                                      That would then be the case for tgp's affiliates and so on aswell, since they are also only distributing the content ?

                                                                                                                                                      Basicly that would put us back to only the producers, and the site owners need to hold the Id's..
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                                                                                                                                                        • Taboo
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by darnit
                                                                                                                                                          Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

                                                                                                                                                          (v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

                                                                                                                                                          Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

                                                                                                                                                          pretty clear cut
                                                                                                                                                          thanks for the info. very interesting.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by fedfest
                                                                                                                                                              Just imagine them having Id's for all images in the image search *lol*

                                                                                                                                                              So eigther they would have to shut down the image search, at least for any adult related keywords, or hosting images that are not yours (google.. Tgp's.. affiliates..etc.) should be okay.. right ?
                                                                                                                                                              Geezus fucking Christ. Worry about your own goddamn backyard drama queen.

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                                                                                                                                                                • nico-t
                                                                                                                                                                  emperor of my world
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by fedfest
                                                                                                                                                                  Never mind.. think that was just the spell check *lol*
                                                                                                                                                                  yep, "bedoelde u:" = "did you mean:"

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