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  • pornstar2pac
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    • Nov 2003
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    #51
    Originally posted by XPays

    xpays, I like you a lot. you ever in the caribbean at all?


    I might start a nicole lenz site when your official site is ready
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    • XPays
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      • May 2004
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      #52
      The moral of the story is that slavik pays more than dombuyer. NEXT!
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      • XPays
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        #53
        Originally posted by DomBuyer
        Hmm, but you just said:

        "fuck escrow dot com - no way i would ever use it. it's contracts and wire or fuck off in my world. ask anyone."

        So what if Slavik did the same thing to you with a written contract? What exactly is the difference you ass clown?
        if you could spend this energy gloating about domains you actually buy then it would be refreshing.
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        • Fletch XXX
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          #54
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          • XPays
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            #55
            btw- you should be banned for smearing slavik imho
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            • pornstar2pac
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              #56


              word. up dom
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              • JFK
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                • Jan 2002
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                #57
                Originally posted by SomeCreep
                Wrong. I do agree that honesty and integrity are esteeming qualities.

                However, Bill Gates has no word and no integrity and not only is he the richest man in the world, he is also considered by many to be the most successful business man ever.
                "has no word and no integrity " a fine way to live your life you cant take the money with you.......

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                • MaDalton
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                  • Feb 2004
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                  very nice, ever gonna back there again?




                  i would love to - it was awesome. don't know if i could live there for more than a few months - but i definitely plan to spend some time in that area in the future.
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                  • DomBuyer
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                    • Sep 2002
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by XPays
                    The moral of the story is that slavik pays more than dombuyer. NEXT!
                    Wrong. I actually told AGA that if he at least given me the option of working something out AFTER GIVING HIS WORD TO ME AND THEN WELCHING, I might have been able to up my offer.

                    But you seem to miss the point: You operate under anything goes. I operate under: Once you give your word, you sell at that price--period.

                    You give yourself away not as a person of integrity, but someone who will do exactly what AGA did.

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                    • TDF
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                      • Mar 2002
                      • 27296

                      #60
                      Evan Enjoys Being An Idiot
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                      • baddog
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                        • Apr 2001
                        • 107089

                        #61
                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                        i was there - but it's spelled "Antigua"

                        I think he was talking about the video arcade, not the island

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                        • pornstar2pac
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                          • Nov 2003
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                          i would love to - it was awesome. don't know if i could live there for more than a few months - but i definitely plan to spend some time in that area in the future.
                          yeah, i worked for an online sportsbook an d had anyting i wanted there. after 2-3 months I just wanted to leave the island for a weekend. i sttill love it there. too bad Dombuyer has no respect
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                          • XPays
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                            • May 2004
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by DomBuyer
                            Wrong. I actually told AGA that if he at least given me the option of working something out AFTER GIVING HIS WORD TO ME AND THEN WELCHING, I might have been able to up my offer.

                            But you seem to miss the point: You operate under anything goes. I operate under: Once you give your word, you sell at that price--period.

                            You give yourself away not as a person of integrity, but someone who will do exactly what AGA did.
                            why do you insist on accusing me of having no integrity for reserving the right to hear slavik's side prior to my final decision?

                            also, if aga did not give you a first right of refusal at least, then that is between you and him.

                            pointing fingers at me only makes you look like you are out for blood.
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                            • XPays
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by TDF
                              Evan Enjoys Being An Idiot
                              It helps me appeal to the lowest common denominator sometimes.

                              I am an experienced idiot at least and not quite as emotional as some here in regards to biz.
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                              • XPays
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                                #65
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                                • pornstar2pac
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                                  #66
                                  Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                  • Monique Niccole
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                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 5653

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                    Evan, paying inadvertent attention to me just tells everyone you have a fetish with me. Why? Jealousy? What does this thread have to do with you?

                                    You mean "inordinant attention"....

                                    And I'm surprised that so many people other than you, slavik, and Lord Aga care.

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                                    • SomeCreep
                                      :glugglug
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 26118

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                      Yup. Without your word, you're nothing. Slavik thought he could ignore me, I gave him plenty of time to deal with this privately and now I'm here laying out the facts. If you don't operate by your word, this thread won't appeal to you.
                                      Are you a business man that deals with contracts, or someone who does all his business through "word" and promises?

                                      You mention you had a contract with "Aga" to sell you the domain, but as I stated, it was within "Aga's" right to cancel the contract when he did. Now it sounds like you are pouting and throwing a tantrum, because you feel what happened was not fair. Well, what happened here was legal, hence fair in the business world.

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                                      • Trixxxia
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                                        • Aug 2004
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                        Wrong. I do agree that honesty and integrity are esteeming qualities.

                                        However, Bill Gates has no word and no integrity and not only is he the richest man in the world, he is also considered by many to be the most successful business man ever.
                                        Although what you say is true, it still doesn't negate the fact that he wasn't a man of his word (if he ever gave it) and had no integrity. A brilliant programmer will not go into his office and give him the next best operating system, bug free, without having confidentiality/copyright contracts & lawyers coming out of the wazoo. Would you trust that he won't screw you over with the next best deal? (although he's not as hungry now) I think not, but then again, people continue to surprise me

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                                        • Lee
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 2977

                                          #70
                                          Slavik said he didnt know then you demanded it "back"?

                                          Hmm...

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                                          • Doctor Dre
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                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 51692

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                            I asked him if he knew and he said "No".

                                            I said "Now you know, and I want the domain I contracted to buy back"

                                            Silence.

                                            To me, that's the same as knowing.
                                            What about if he's loosing money because of you ? He obviously got more since he backed off your offer . That wouldn't be fear for him to loose $ over something that's between you and aga .
                                            Originally posted by rayadp05
                                            I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                            • DomBuyer
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                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 2595

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                              Are you a business man that deals with contracts, or someone who does all his business through "word" and promises?

                                              You mention you had a contract with "Aga" to sell you the domain, but as I stated, it was within "Aga's" right to cancel the contract when he did. Now it sounds like you are pouting and throwing a tantrum, because you feel what happened was not fair. Well, what happened here was legal, hence fair in the business world.
                                              Yes, he is totally within his rights to cancel the escrow.com contract. And I am within my rights to tell the world that his "word" means nothing, unlike with me and select others, where it means everything. The escrow is a formality.

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                                              • MaDalton
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                                                • Feb 2004
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                                yeah, i worked for an online sportsbook an d had anyting i wanted there. after 2-3 months I just wanted to leave the island for a weekend. i sttill love it there. too bad Dombuyer has no respect

                                                my first idea when i went there was to come back, go from island to island and make a photo book about rotting cars that were left next to the streets when they died. that was really amazing. sometimes there was just the motor and the axles left - the rest simply vanished.
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                                                • XPays
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                                                  #74
                                                  quick question-

                                                  you embarassed and pantsed split infinity here and ended up getting your way. are you playing this in the hopes that slavik will sell you the domain now?
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                                                  • XPays
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                                    Yes, he is totally within his rights to cancel the escrow.com contract. And I am within my rights to tell the world that his "word" means nothing, unlike with me and select others, where it means everything. The escrow is a formality.
                                                    then you owe slavik an apology and a retraction

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                                                    • DomBuyer
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                                                      • Sep 2002
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                                                      #76
                                                      Don't get me wrong: going public virtually assures I will never get the name.

                                                      So what's my motive?

                                                      Simple: I don't give a shit who you are, if you give me your word and you did so of free will, you follow through, plain and simple, and I don't give a shit who you are, otherwise the system of relationships goes up in flames.

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                                                      • SomeCreep
                                                        :glugglug
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 26118

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
                                                        Although what you say is true, it still doesn't negate the fact that he wasn't a man of his word (if he ever gave it) and had no integrity. A brilliant programmer will not go into his office and give him the next best operating system, bug free, without having confidentiality/copyright contracts & lawyers coming out of the wazoo. Would you trust that he won't screw you over with the next best deal? (although he's not as hungry now) I think not, but then again, people continue to surprise me
                                                        I would not trust Bill Gates with anything that wasnt legally stated and signed in a contract. I would expect him to be exactly who he is, a ruthless deceitful business man.

                                                        It should be stated, that when it comes to his personal life, he seems to have integrity and honesty, as I do not believe he has ever cheated on his wife. Who can say for sure though.

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                                                        • Steen2
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                                                          • Feb 2004
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                          Are you a business man that deals with contracts, or someone who does all his business through "word" and promises?

                                                          You mention you had a contract with "Aga" to sell you the domain, but as I stated, it was within "Aga's" right to cancel the contract when he did. Now it sounds like you are pouting and throwing a tantrum, because you feel what happened was not fair. Well, what happened here was legal, hence fair in the business world.
                                                          In the United States (other areas may be similar) an oral agreement is just as binding as a writtin contract- just harder to prove.

                                                          Evan's comment about "F escrow.com, I do written contracts + wire only", legally would be no different than this situation. Only that the chosen method of payment was escrow.com.

                                                          Both were legally binding agreements.

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                                                          • Steen2
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                            I would not trust Bill Gates with anything that wasnt legally stated and signed in a contract. I would expect him to be exactly who he is, a ruthless deceitful business man.

                                                            It should be stated, that when it comes to his personal life, he seems to have integrity and honesty, as I do not believe he has ever cheated on his wife. Who can say for sure though.
                                                            Do you have some vendetta against Bill Gates? Unless by rare chance that you actually know him - I would imagine you are clueless as to his real business moves and decisions.
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                                                            • Doctor Dre
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 51692

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                              What about if he's loosing money because of you ? He obviously got more since he backed off your offer . That wouldn't be fear for him to loose $ over something that's between you and aga .
                                                              I repeat my Q
                                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                              • Steen2
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                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 7662

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Steen2
                                                                In the United States...
                                                                ...
                                                                Both were legally binding agreements.

                                                                DISCLAIMER
                                                                Having said that, I would be interested in Slavik's side of the the story is, and if he did know about DomBuyer's previous agreement in regard to dowload.com.

                                                                However this is really between three parties (maybe four? escrow.com).
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                                                                • $tandaman
                                                                  Pimping 8EZ
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 3530

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Steen2
                                                                  In the United States (other areas may be similar) an oral agreement is just as binding as a writtin contract- just harder to prove.

                                                                  Evan's comment about "F escrow.com, I do written contracts + wire only", legally would be no different than this situation. Only that the chosen method of payment was escrow.com.

                                                                  Both were legally binding agreements.

                                                                  DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. In fact, it could be completely incorrect!
                                                                  That's right Steen, you are NOT a lawyer, if you were, you would know there is a limit of 500 in ny, over which the contract has to be in writing

                                                                  and point 2: 'icq conversation' is NOT an oral agreement, thus it's not a contract.. as it can be faked.
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                                                                  • Peaches
                                                                    Old broad
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 13933

                                                                    #83
                                                                    An oral contract is worth the paper it's written on.

                                                                    And how is Slavik a bad guy in this??! That makes ZERO sense.

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                                                                    • Doctor Dre
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 51692

                                                                      #84
                                                                      I repeat my question :

                                                                      Slavik is loosing money if he hands it back to you . Because he obviously is loosing money on this . He got the domain so he paid more right ?

                                                                      So why would he loose money over something he didn't know nothing about ?

                                                                      The most honorable thing he could have done is sell it back to you for the price he paid ... but then that'd fuck him up ... and he probably don't owe you this kind of favor .
                                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                      • pornstar2pac
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                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                        • 17380

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                        my first idea when i went there was to come back, go from island to island and make a photo book about rotting cars that were left next to the streets when they died. that was really amazing. sometimes there was just the motor and the axles left - the rest simply vanished.

                                                                        lol, you know the best roads in the world are in antigua right.........lollololollol
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                                                                        • dig420
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                                                                          • May 2001
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Be damned if I can see how Slavik is at fault here.

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                                                                          • Steen2
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                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                            • 7662

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by $tandaman
                                                                            That's right Steen, you are NOT a lawyer, if you were, you would know there is a limit of 500 in ny, over which the contract has to be in writing

                                                                            and point 2: 'icq conversation' is NOT an oral agreement, thus it's not a contract.. as it can be faked.
                                                                            Could be right about the limit and the ICQ part. Are you an attorney?
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                                                                            • DomBuyer
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                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                              • 2595

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                              An oral contract is worth the paper it's written on.

                                                                              And how is Slavik a bad guy in this??! That makes ZERO sense.
                                                                              I'm not going to spend the whole night rehashing what is in the thread. I'm going to bed.

                                                                              My post is a warning to people that there are those that operate on their word and those that don't. Amongst the people that I do business with, it's simply unheard of to say "yes" to an escrow and agree and then default to sell to someone else.

                                                                              I am particularly disappointed in Slavik. I gave him ample opportunity to explain his case to me and make good. He refused. His silence has spoken. I'm sorry that I won't be able to do business with him again.

                                                                              For those of you who think "no harm no foul" please don't do business with me either.

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                                                                              • Stacey_JoinRightNow
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                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 6269

                                                                                #89
                                                                                this is what i love about GFY, i learn a lot from cases like this...let's hear the side of slavik now

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                                                                                • darnit
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                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 2439

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  AGA:
                                                                                  "you have my word I own Netpond.com so you could always come and slag me off on my own board! lol.. hey.. would love for you to pop your head in every now and again.. its where webfather broke his teeth!"

                                                                                  I think you are posting on the wrong board

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                                                                                  • dig420
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                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                    • 9240

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Stacey_JoinRightNow
                                                                                    this is what i love about GFY, i learn a lot from cases like this...let's hear the side of slavik now
                                                                                    what does he have to say about it?

                                                                                    'Somebody offered me a domain. I bought it.'

                                                                                    End of story.

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                                                                                    • slapass
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                      • 14625

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      I guess I have to write Dombuyer off my list per his request as this thread is nuts. He is pissed at the wrong guy. Aga, backed out and i fully agree. Once you agree to the deal, you have to follow through. But no way in hell does the other guy owe you the domain. I know that you breathe different air then the rest of us so maybe it is thinner up there.....

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                                                                                      • SomeCreep
                                                                                        :glugglug
                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                        • 26118

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Steen2
                                                                                        Do you have some vendetta against Bill Gates? Unless by rare chance that you actually know him - I would imagine you are clueless as to his real business moves and decisions.
                                                                                        Your posts are clueless.

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                                                                                        • pornstar2pac
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                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 17380

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          I'm sorry about my previous posts. i am drunk
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                                                                                            #95
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                                                                                            • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 51692

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                                                                              I'm not going to spend the whole night rehashing what is in the thread. I'm going to bed.

                                                                                              My post is a warning to people that there are those that operate on their word and those that don't. Amongst the people that I do business with, it's simply unheard of to say "yes" to an escrow and agree and then default to sell to someone else.

                                                                                              I am particularly disappointed in Slavik. I gave him ample opportunity to explain his case to me and make good. He refused. His silence has spoken. I'm sorry that I won't be able to do business with him again.

                                                                                              For those of you who think "no harm no foul" please don't do business with me either.
                                                                                              Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                              I repeat my question :

                                                                                              Slavik is loosing money if he hands it back to you . Because he obviously is loosing money on this . He got the domain so he paid more right ?

                                                                                              So why would he loose money over something he didn't know nothing about ?

                                                                                              The most honorable thing he could have done is sell it back to you for the price he paid ... but then that'd fuck him up ... and he probably don't owe you this kind of favor .
                                                                                              I don't think it's cool that he ignored you... but what about the question I keep asking ?
                                                                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                              • RichC
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                                                                                                • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                I'm not even sure Slavik is around this week, think he's outta town... pretty sad to see someone bring his name into to the mud, he's a 100% total stand up dude, always has been.
                                                                                                I brought the flutes this time

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                                                                                                • paxton
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                                                                                                  • May 2002
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                                                                                                  I think a lot of you are missing the point. In business, it's important not to alienate your customers, your partners, your associates, etc. Sometimes you have to step back and look at the big picture. One small deal of little financial consequence, might result in a big future loss if the deal pisses off someone you do business with. Of course, some people are unreasonable, overly demanding, and always creating headaches. In my opinion, DomBuyer is not one of these people. I have done multiple transactions with him and it has always gone smoothly and positively - a testament to him as a businessperson.

                                                                                                  From what I read I do no think anyone was malicious or intentionally trying to stick a dagger in DB's back. And perhaps he is looking at the issue from a limited perspective. But he did let Aga and Slavik know he was upset and that he felt that a binding agreement had been reneged. He did not like the business practice, and gave them both a chance to remedy the situation. They didn't, and this thread was born. I don't necessarily agree with creating a public thread - but then again I operate differently.

                                                                                                  I don't think this is a matter of technicalities, or even legalities. It's about keeping good standing with those whom you conduct business with. My
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                                                                                                  • eddie-executive
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                    Jealousy... is a mental cancer. ~B.C. Forbes

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