Don't trust aga from Netpond with an escrow (or Slavik for that matter)

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  • DomBuyer
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    • Sep 2002
    • 2595

    #1

    Don't trust aga from Netpond with an escrow (or Slavik for that matter)

    Just thought I'd share with you a very disappointing domain transaction and fair warning on these two guys and how they operate.

    Some weeks back I got Aga, co-owner from Netpond, to sell me dowloads.com. (I'd use his real name, but apparently it's against the rules here. email me if you need the straight goods). He approached me via my gfy thread.

    We bargained back and forth and eventually I agreed to his asking price of $25k. He asked if we could do the escrow.com transaction when he returned on Friday. I told him via icq:

    "Just give me your word we're done at $25k, and you can do it tomorrow or something. Fair enough?"

    His response (direct from icq logs):

    "you have my word I own Netpond.com so you could always come and slag me off on my own board! lol.. hey.. would love for you to pop your head in every now and again.. its where webfather broke his teeth!"

    Then he went ahead and decided to just agreee to the escrow.com transaction anyways.

    I wired out the money the next day.

    Then I get a note from escrow.com that he has cancelled the transaction.

    "He doesn't want to sell at the price at this time." the cancellation says.

    I'm thinking, WTF!!!??

    I honestly have never had someone cancel an agreed-upon escrow. As far as I'm concerned, once someone agrees to escrow and gives me their word, it's a done deal unless someone doesn't pay or someone takes too long to follow through.

    Long story short is he doesn't bother to even email me like a man and tell me why he's cancelling a binding contract.

    Then I find out that he's sold the name out from under me to Slavik, a guy who has always been a standup guy with me, and with whom I've done lots of business.

    I can't tell you how disappointed I am. Why would a guy like slavik do such a thing. To me, AGA from Netpond is now scum, blacklisted far and wide. But he's not who I care about. It seems awfully out of character for a guy like slavik.

    When I ask slavik via icq what the deal is, he tells me that AGA was settling a debt by giving him the domain.

    I say to him, "Yes, but I had an escrow with him. Do contracts mean nothing to you?"

    Silence.

    I ask him if he knew I had an escrow transaction with him? He says he didn't know.

    I tell him: "Well, now you know and if the situation were reversed, you wouldn't have to ask me twice to get the domain back."

    More silence.

    Since then, I have sent four or five emails and icq's to slavik, all ignored.

    I'm never surprised when people grub for an extra nickel, but this one caught me by surprise.

    Mr. deltino.com? History to me. But slavik? That's more puzzling.

    Slav, you going to let me have dowloads.com back at the $25k that I was supposed to have it back via escrow.com, or do contracts and word mean nothing to you.

    PS: Don't expect to do any more biz with us until this is resolved. It may not hurt you, but that's not the point. Word is bond.

    PPS: As I told you via icq, people approach me with names you have in escrow. I never touch 'em. Why can't you extend me the same courtesy?

  • jimmyf
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    • Relish XXX
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      • Dec 2004
      • 4904

      #3
      I really dont understand that Aga is a stand up guy. Anyway can you hit me up, I have a friend that needs to talk to you regarding a domain negociation.

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      • BVF
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        • Jan 2002
        • 13975

        #4
        your contract is with aga, not with slavik. what slavik did was questionable and isn't something that a good business acquaintance would do but that's like asking somebody who bought a car from a third party up from under you and then you expect them to give you the car...I've been ripped EXACTLY like that but it never crossed my mind to enforce the contract that I had with the seller with the other buyer.

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        • pornstar2pac
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          • Nov 2003
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          #5
          i'M DOWN WITH dOMBUYER WITH WHAREVER HE SAYS.


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          • Pipecrew
            Master of Gfy.com
            • Feb 2002
            • 14888

            #6
            Nice Domain Slavik.

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            • DomBuyer
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              • Sep 2002
              • 2595

              #7
              Originally posted by Relish XXX
              I really dont understand that Aga is a stand up guy. Anyway can you hit me up, I have a friend that needs to talk to you regarding a domain negociation.
              It's very simple: He committed to me, and then consulted Slavik, and slavik told him it was worth more. Then he cancelled the escrow.

              When he ignored my request for an explanation, I told him he'd better explain why he cancelled or expect a very public hazing of his rep. It was then he decided I had "bullied him" into making a decision...lol...despite the fact he told me where to send the escrow and agreed to it.

              It's just that simple.

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              • XPays
                Team Player
                • May 2004
                • 13002

                #8
                when are you going to learn that whatever your offer is, is always lower than any real domain buyer will spend.

                you are like the giant catfish caught recently - a bottomfeeder

                congrats slavik and a deal ain't done until it's done- just like 99.9% of the domains you prematurely ejaculate about that you lose later.

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                • baddog
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089

                  #9
                  sounds like a bullshit act if you ask me . . . . but doesn't surprise me.

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                  • XPays
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                    • May 2004
                    • 13002

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DomBuyer
                    It's very simple: He committed to me, and then consulted Slavik, and slavik told him it was worth more. Then he cancelled the escrow.

                    When he ignored my request for an explanation, I told him he'd better explain why he cancelled or expect a very public hazing of his rep. It was then he decided I had "bullied him" into making a decision...lol...despite the fact he told me where to send the escrow and agreed to it.

                    It's just that simple.
                    sounds like you could not afford to pay more than slavik or you would have and kept your deal alive.
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                    • DomBuyer
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                      • Sep 2002
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BVF
                      your contract is with aga, not with slavik. what slavik did was questionable and isn't something that a good business acquaintance would do but that's like asking somebody who bought a car from a third party up from under you and then you expect them to give you the car...I've been ripped EXACTLY like that but it never crossed my mind to enforce the contract that I had with the seller with the other buyer.
                      See, when it comes to the upper level of domain people, you're wrong. I would NEVER buy a domain out from under Slavik or any other player. It just wouldn't happen, UNLESS someone didn't follow through.

                      My beef is actually with Slavik, not AGA. AGA is scum to me, the kind of trash that will sell to the highest bidder and who's word means nothing.

                      Slavik is known as a mad of his word, and here he's contravening a legal contract to snap a domain from me. It destroys the system when people do that. It destroys contracts and bonds. It's really that simple.

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                      • pornstar2pac
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                        • Nov 2003
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                        #12
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                        • dirtysouth
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 2613

                          #13
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                          • DomBuyer
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                            • Sep 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by XPays
                            sounds like you could not afford to pay more than slavik or you would have and kept your deal alive.
                            Evan, do you use escrow.com? Does that system mean nothing to you? Anything goes? I'll remember that.

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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089

                              #15
                              Originally posted by XPays
                              a deal ain't done until it's done
                              note to self . . . . word means nothing to some people

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                              • XPays
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                                • May 2004
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                                #16
                                i'm just breaking his balls

                                buying low is not a bad thing- it is probably best to hide certain events from the public though when the method backfires.
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                                • baddog
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by XPays
                                  sounds like you could not afford to pay more than slavik or you would have and kept your deal alive.

                                  Bullshit

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                                  • XPays
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                                    • May 2004
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    note to self . . . . word means nothing to some people
                                    a deal is a deal where i come from.
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                                    • XPays
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                                      #19
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                                      • pornstar2pac
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                                        #20
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                                        • XPays
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                                          • May 2004
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                          Evan, do you use escrow.com? Does that system mean nothing to you? Anything goes? I'll remember that.
                                          fuck escrow dot com - no way i would ever use it. it's contracts and wire or fuck off in my world. ask anyone.
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                                          • DomBuyer
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by XPays
                                            i'm just breaking his balls

                                            buying low is not a bad thing- it is probably best to hide certain events from the public though when the method backfires.
                                            I guess this is what separates me from you: No matter what the price, if I say it's done, escrow is a mere formality. And that's what's wrong with this picture.

                                            I can live without this domain, but I can't live with someone breaking their word and another guy who won't respect a contract.

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                                            • baddog
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 107089

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by XPays
                                              a deal is a deal where i come from.

                                              hmmm, I think someone must have hacked your GFY account then, because that isn't what it says above

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                                              • XPays
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                                                • May 2004
                                                • 13002

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                                I guess this is what separates me from you: No matter what the price, if I say it's done, escrow is a mere formality. And that's what's wrong with this picture.

                                                I can live without this domain, but I can't live with someone breaking their word and another guy who won't respect a contract.
                                                don't accuse me of doing what happened to you - never have and never will - i honor all deals when the parties agree and shut out future offers.

                                                the problem here is that you talk too much and open up competition for yourself.
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                                                • DomBuyer
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                                                  #25
                                                  Evan, you've just reinforced my intention never to do business with you either.

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                                                  • Trixxxia
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                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                    • 5600

                                                    #26
                                                    A man is only as good as his word and integrity - when the money is gone, if he's always managed to keep his word, he'll come back on top - if he was backstabbing and kept his word only when it convenienced him - then all that happens is that people will give that back to him.

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                                                    • XPays
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                                                      • May 2004
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                                      Evan, you've just reinforced my intention never to do business with you either.
                                                      hold on , i am going to get a tissue.
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                                                      • DomBuyer
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by XPays
                                                        don't accuse me of doing what happened to you - never have and never will - i honor all deals when the parties agree and shut out future offers.

                                                        the problem here is that you talk too much and open up competition for yourself.
                                                        You honor all deals but when I expect others to honor deals you're not on the side of "honoring deals"? Hmmm, could it be you have something personal against me?

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                                                        • XPays
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                                                          • May 2004
                                                          • 13002

                                                          #29
                                                          if anyone has a domain i want - i could care less about anything else that has to do with emotions btw. i will still buy from you dombuyer if ever necessary.

                                                          i will setup a fake persona to do it though LOL
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                                                          • XPays
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                                            You honor all deals but when I expect others to honor deals you're not on the side of "honoring deals"? Hmmm, could it be you have something personal against me?
                                                            no- you are very salty right now. i like slavik and would like to hear his side.
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                                                            • $tandaman
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                                                              • Jun 2001
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                                                              #31
                                                              Slavik is man of his word, he came through for me plenty of times.
                                                              You do NOT know what's the deal with the domain, you don't know whether AGA consulted Slavik, or whether Slavik was bidding on the domain and you had NO idea about it.

                                                              As long as the contract is not signed, you do NOT own it, and nobody owes you shit, you should know that by now. Slavik is a stand up guy.

                                                              If you thought you had a contract with AGA, you have legal grounds to sue.. but obviously you did not, so you come to the board to bitch.
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                                                              • MaDalton
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                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 39861

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by pornstar2pac
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                                                                i was there - but it's spelled "Antigua"
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                                                                • SomeCreep
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                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 26118

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                                                  Then I find out that he's sold the name out from under me to Slavik, a guy who has always been a standup guy with me, and with whom I've done lots of business.

                                                                  When I ask slavik via icq what the deal is, he tells me that AGA was settling a debt by giving him the domain.

                                                                  I say to him, "Yes, but I had an escrow with him. Do contracts mean nothing to you?"

                                                                  I ask him if he knew I had an escrow transaction with him? He says he didn't know.
                                                                  It sounds like "Aga" decided to settle debt with Slavik, rather than sell you the domain. That is just the way he placed his priorities. Is that reason to post on GFY and try and bash Slavik and "Aga"? No.

                                                                  It was within "Aga's" right to cancel the escrow process when he did. He had not yet accepted payment, he merely agreed upon selling.

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                                                                  • pornstar2pac
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                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 17380

                                                                    #34
                                                                    so dom, never answer my posts? i may have to find you in and talk to you in person. it's not hard to find you. trust me.
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                                                                    • Chio The Pirate
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                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 946

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
                                                                      A man is only as good as his word and integrity - when the money is gone, if he's always managed to keep his word, he'll come back on top - if he was backstabbing and kept his word only when it convenienced him - then all that happens is that people will give that back to him.

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                                                                      • BradShaw
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                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                        • 7840

                                                                        #36
                                                                        That domain sucks, you were overpaying. Consider it a good thing.
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                                                                        • pornstar2pac
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                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                          • 17380

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                          i was there - but it's spelled "Antigua"

                                                                          sorry had a few beers already today. so what do you do there? I lived there for two years and going back to find dombuyer
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                                                                          • DomBuyer
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                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 2595

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by $tandaman
                                                                            Slavik is man of his word, he came through for me plenty of times.
                                                                            You do NOT know what's the deal with the domain, you don't know whether AGA consulted Slavik, or whether Slavik was bidding on the domain and you had NO idea about it.

                                                                            As long as the contract is not signed, you do NOT own it, and nobody owes you shit, you should know that by now. Slavik is a stand up guy.

                                                                            If you thought you had a contract with AGA, you have legal grounds to sue.. but obviously you did not, so you come to the board to bitch.
                                                                            He's come through plenty of times for me too, as I have for him.

                                                                            As for the rest of your crap, stop there: I had a binding agreement, and slavik intervened. In actuality, I could have sued AGA for the domain, and Slavik would have been forced to return it to me, but that's not how I work.

                                                                            I contacted slavik and he ignored me. I take binding agreements seriously.

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                                                                            • Doctor Dre
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                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                              • 51692

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I don't know the situation about slavik (if he knew or didn't knew what was going on) . But it's Aga's fault mainly ...
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                                                                              • DomBuyer
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                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                • 2595

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                It sounds like "Aga" decided to settle debt with Slavik, rather than sell you the domain. That is just the way he placed his priorities. Is that reason to post on GFY and try and bash Slavik and "Aga"? No.
                                                                                Yup. Without your word, you're nothing. Slavik thought he could ignore me, I gave him plenty of time to deal with this privately and now I'm here laying out the facts. If you don't operate by your word, this thread won't appeal to you.

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                                                                                • MaDalton
                                                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                  • 39861

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                                                                  sorry had a few beers already today. so what do you do there? I lived there for two years and going back to find dombuyer
                                                                                  i was there when i did a cruise through the carribean sea with the Sea Cloud 2

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                                                                                  • DomBuyer
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                                                                                    • 2595

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                    I don't know the situation about slavik (if he knew or didn't knew what was going on) . But it's Aga's fault mainly ...
                                                                                    I asked him if he knew and he said "No".

                                                                                    I said "Now you know, and I want the domain I contracted to buy back"

                                                                                    Silence.

                                                                                    To me, that's the same as knowing.

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                                                                                    • JFK
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                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 67369

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by XPays
                                                                                      sounds like you could not afford to pay more than slavik or you would have and kept your deal alive.
                                                                                      That is Bullshit a deal is a deal .........or is that how you operate ? Accept an offer, then weasel out of it if someone offers you a nickel More?

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                                                                                      • XPays
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                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • XPays
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                          That is Bullshit a deal is a deal .........or is that how you operate ? Accept an offer, then weasel out of it if someone offers you a nickel More?
                                                                                          no i don't which is well documented in our 7 year history.

                                                                                          the problem here is that only one side of the story is getting out and heaven's forbid somebody should seek the other side before passing judgement.
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                                                                                          • DomBuyer
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by XPays
                                                                                            Evan, paying inadvertent attention to me just tells everyone you have a fetish with me. Why? Jealousy? What does this thread have to do with you?

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                                                                                            • pornstar2pac
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                              i was there when i did a cruise through the carribean sea with the Sea Cloud 2


                                                                                              very nice, ever gonna back there again?



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                                                                                              • XPays
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                                                                                Evan, paying inadvertent attention to me just tells everyone you have a fetish with me. Why? Jealousy? What does this thread have to do with you?
                                                                                                you are the one who has publicly made offers for literally less than half the actual final sales price on domains i have sold. you also said that was your best offer and that anything more was too much. we all coexist- i just call it as i see it. you have had a pattern of talking before you have a deal done, hypothesizing deals that never occur, and now smearing slavik without him being present to defend himself.
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
                                                                                                  A man is only as good as his word and integrity - when the money is gone, if he's always managed to keep his word, he'll come back on top - if he was backstabbing and kept his word only when it convenienced him - then all that happens is that people will give that back to him.
                                                                                                  Wrong. I do agree that honesty and integrity are esteeming qualities.

                                                                                                  However, Bill Gates has no word and no integrity and not only is he the richest man in the world, he is also considered by many to be the most successful business man ever.

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                                                                                                  • DomBuyer
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                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by XPays
                                                                                                    no i don't which is well documented in our 7 year history.

                                                                                                    the problem here is that only one side of the story is getting out and heaven's forbid somebody should seek the other side before passing judgement.
                                                                                                    Hmm, but you just said:

                                                                                                    "fuck escrow dot com - no way i would ever use it. it's contracts and wire or fuck off in my world. ask anyone."

                                                                                                    So what if Slavik did the same thing to you with a written contract? What exactly is the difference you ass clown?

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