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  • jonpotz
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2004
    • 960

    #1

    steamray affiliates....

    should i go with 20% commission or pps...?

    thanks.
  • jonpotz
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2004
    • 960

    #2
    sir bump a lot

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    • College Downtime
      Confirmed User
      • May 2005
      • 557

      #3
      how much is the pps?
      College Downtime.com

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      • jonpotz
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2004
        • 960

        #4
        Originally posted by College Downtime
        how much is the pps?

        50 to 130$

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        • jonpotz
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2004
          • 960

          #5
          everybody do the bumpty bump, everybody do the bumpty bump.

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          • OzMan
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2003
            • 9162

            #6



            btw if you bothered to spell the sponsor correctly you might be getting some help it's STREAMRAY

            short generic answer PPS short term % long term .... go with %

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            • Sean
              revolutionforce.com
              • Jun 2003
              • 2909

              #7
              20% is where the real money is, but it takes time. PPS is quick and hard
              -sean
              skype: sean.a.christian
              sean @ revolutionforce.com

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              • betsy
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2005
                • 625

                #8
                Of course quick and hard has its place ;) but i went for the big payoff and took the 20% on my account. I was not disappointed! Revshare makes my panties wet!

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                • TheSenator
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 13330

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                  20% is where the real money is, but it takes time. PPS is quick and hard

                  So, true...preach on
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                  • Xenophage
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 12122

                    #10
                    20% is by far the best bet. There is more risk for us in the PPS model so we pay less. So ifyou want to make the most money possible go % but if ya need quick cash go PPS

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                    • Dugmor
                      The Traffic Cowboy
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 7687

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                      20% is by far the best bet. There is more risk for us in the PPS model so we pay less. So ifyou want to make the most money possible go % but if ya need quick cash go PPS


                      I agree.......... if you are in this business for the long run and have long term goals and reccuring income for the rest of your life.......... % is the only way to rock and roll !
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                      • Lord Aga
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 479

                        #12
                        Go 30% with http://www.camsuncovered.com average per member value is $370 over 6 months

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                        • Sean
                          revolutionforce.com
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 2909

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Lord Aga
                          Go 30% with http://www.camsuncovered.com average per member value is $370 over 6 months

                          thread jacker
                          -sean
                          skype: sean.a.christian
                          sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                          • Sean
                            revolutionforce.com
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2909

                            #14
                            here is little something something

                            Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                            I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative.

                            first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time.

                            As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make.

                            And on to the real hat trick
                            In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual.

                            Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later.

                            On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year.

                            This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that !

                            Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around
                            -sean
                            skype: sean.a.christian
                            sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                            • Sean
                              revolutionforce.com
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 2909

                              #15
                              i like the smiley face with the thread jack
                              -sean
                              skype: sean.a.christian
                              sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                              • Lord Aga
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 479

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                thread jacker
                                Sue me! lol

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                                • Sean
                                  revolutionforce.com
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 2909

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Lord Aga
                                  Sue me! lol
                                  why dont you go fuck yourself
                                  -sean
                                  skype: sean.a.christian
                                  sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                  • Lord Aga
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 479

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                    i like the smiley face with the thread jack
                                    Whats your average per member value? at 6 months and 1 year?

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                                    • Sean
                                      revolutionforce.com
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 2909

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Lord Aga
                                      Whats your average per member value? at 6 months and 1 year?
                                      what is the average time it will take you to lick my salty balls
                                      -sean
                                      skype: sean.a.christian
                                      sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                      • Lord Aga
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 479

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                        what is the average time it will take you to lick my salty balls
                                        ahh right! I guess they dont trust you with that info hahaha

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                                        • Penthouse Tony
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 5835

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Lord Aga
                                          Whats your average per member value? at 6 months and 1 year?
                                          Thread jacking is not cool... mmmkay?
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                                          • Sean
                                            revolutionforce.com
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 2909

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Lord Aga
                                            ahh right! I guess they dont trust you with that info hahaha
                                            they dont. ask anyone
                                            -sean
                                            skype: sean.a.christian
                                            sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                            • Xenophage
                                              Registered User
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 12122

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Lord Aga
                                              Go 30% with http://www.othercamcompany.com average per member value is $370 over 6 months
                                              And that proves exactly our point thanks !

                                              So when is 20% better than 30% when our average user spends almost double that ammount

                                              $750 at 20% = 150 or 370 at 30% = 108

                                              Go with the best forget the rest ! I would rather get 150 bucks than 108

                                              but some people still think 30% is better than 20% NOT!

                                              The check you put in your pocket is the most important thing.

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                                              • Lord Aga
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 479

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                                Thread jacking is not cool... mmmkay?
                                                Oh.. sorry! but it turned into a more interesting thread that may help you get more affiliates!

                                                Do you know what the average per member value is? at 6 months and a year?

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                                                • betsy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                  • 625

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by LegendaryLars

                                                  The check you put in your pocket is the most important thing.

                                                  True that! Bling Bling? Hells yes.

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                                                  • hyper
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 5294

                                                    #26
                                                    i havent made a dime with them.. maybe one day

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                                                    • Xenophage
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 12122

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by betsyAFF!
                                                      True that! Bling Bling? Hells yes.
                                                      And thats why I love AdultFriendfinder.com cuzz it puts more money in more pockets than any other adult company on the internet today.

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                                                      • Lord Aga
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 479

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                        And that proves exactly our point thanks !

                                                        So when is 20% better than 30% when our average user spends almost double that ammount

                                                        $750 at 20% = 150 or 370 at 30% = 108

                                                        Go with the best forget the rest ! I would rather get 150 bucks than 108

                                                        but some people still think 30% is better than 20% NOT!

                                                        The check you put in your pocket is the most important thing.
                                                        Cool ,thats all I wanted to know!

                                                        But.. is that at 6 months or what?

                                                        At $750 spend per member.. every single one of your affiliates that takes the $50 per signup (or even the $130) is a mug right? ;)

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                                                        • Xenophage
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 12122

                                                          #29
                                                          yes thats why 20% is better

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                                                          • seeric
                                                            ..........
                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                            • 41917

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Lord Aga
                                                            Go 30% with http://www.camsuncovered.com average per member value is $370 over 6 months

                                                            thats just wrong





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                                                            • lesbodojo
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                              • 2839

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                              what is the average time it will take you to lick my salty balls
                                                              Oh is it a game? Let me guess how long it will take him....2 minutes.
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                                                              • Dalai lama
                                                                Strength and Honor
                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                • 16540

                                                                #32
                                                                20% all the way.

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                                                                • Sean
                                                                  revolutionforce.com
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 2909

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Lord Aga
                                                                  Cool ,thats all I wanted to know!

                                                                  But.. is that at 6 months or what?

                                                                  At $750 spend per member.. every single one of your affiliates that takes the $50 per signup (or even the $130) is a mug right? ;)
                                                                  some people like the short money
                                                                  -sean
                                                                  skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                  sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                  • Xenophage
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                    • 12122

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by lesbodojo
                                                                    Oh is it a game? Let me guess how long it will take him....2 minutes.

                                                                    hahaha Ohh my

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                                                                    • Sean
                                                                      revolutionforce.com
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 2909

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by lesbodojo
                                                                      Oh is it a game? Let me guess how long it will take him....2 minutes.
                                                                      they are on the big side, so maybe longer.... but on the other hand, there is no hair on them today
                                                                      -sean
                                                                      skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                      sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                      • slapass
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                        • 14625

                                                                        #36
                                                                        go PPS, Lars has said several times he loses money on the big PPS promotions. He does them to get clients. So you might as well take his $$$.

                                                                        hmm, I see above that maybe that is not true. I would still go PPS. I know he is now with AFF and AFF kicks ass in everything they do so maybe I will eat this post some day. I just know I got some checks for over $100 with just one or 2 signups and that is sweet.

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                                                                        • Sean
                                                                          revolutionforce.com
                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 2909

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by slapass
                                                                          go PPS, Lars has said several times he loses money on the big PPS promotions. He does them to get clients. So you might as well take his $$$.

                                                                          hmm, I see above that maybe that is not true. I would still go PPS. I know he is now with AFF and AFF kicks ass in everything they do so maybe I will eat this post some day. I just know I got some checks for over $100 with just one or 2 signups and that is sweet.

                                                                          we do allow webmasters to have more than one account. so you can split your traffic and see which one does better for you. feel free to hit me up if you have questions and thank you for the nice words
                                                                          -sean
                                                                          skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                          sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                          • Xenophage
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                            • 12122

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Thanks Slapass


                                                                            We are now paying up to $130 per signup on our new sliding scale payouts !
                                                                            This is a special promotion scale that will last for the next 2 pay periods.


                                                                            1-10 sales gets them $50 PPS
                                                                            11-40 sales gets them $60 PPS
                                                                            41-70 sales gets them $70 PPS
                                                                            71-200 sales gets them $80 PPS
                                                                            201-400 sales gets them $90 PPS
                                                                            401-600 sales gets them $100 PPS
                                                                            601-700 sales gets them $110 PPS
                                                                            701-800 sales gets them $120 PPS
                                                                            801-900+ sales gets them $130 PPS

                                                                            We are exploding and we want everyone to give us a shot ! This should motivate everyone to put up some nice links to us !

                                                                            We have launched a ton of new marketing tools in the last month, take advantage of this !

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                                                                            I want to thank everyone who supports us and sends us traffic, and who supports us on the boards.

                                                                            Our conversions are up 20% in the last month, due to many new changes to our site and backend.
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                                                                            • Sean
                                                                              revolutionforce.com
                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 2909

                                                                              #39
                                                                              there are webmasters making good coin right now on the PPS
                                                                              -sean
                                                                              skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                              sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                              • Lord Aga
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 479

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                go PPS, Lars has said several times he loses money on the big PPS promotions. He does them to get clients. So you might as well take his $$$.

                                                                                hmm, I see above that maybe that is not true. I would still go PPS. I know he is now with AFF and AFF kicks ass in everything they do so maybe I will eat this post some day. I just know I got some checks for over $100 with just one or 2 signups and that is sweet.
                                                                                LOL.. how can he lose big money paying a maximum of $130 per signup when he has just said he makes $750 per signup!

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                                                                                • Sean
                                                                                  revolutionforce.com
                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                  • 2909

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  so lord aga,
                                                                                  i went to your site to see how i could make this coin with you and saw your 22 models that are online and wanted to sign up. everywhere that i click to sign up i came up with this
                                                                                  "Tag {email_req} not found in template loc/00002/html//free_signup.html."
                                                                                  is there any way that you could make me an account on your broken site so i can see it?
                                                                                  -sean
                                                                                  skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                                  sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                                  • Xenophage
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                    • 12122

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Lord Aga
                                                                                    LOL.. how can he lose big money paying a maximum of $130 per signup when he has just said he makes $750 per signup!

                                                                                    Seriously you should just doa co brand passthrough account with us. And then market that site. you wont have all teh hassles of building your own system and you will get paid fat cash!

                                                                                    Something Like this

                                                                                    http://livecams.cybererotica.com

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                                                                                    • Lord Aga
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 479

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Damn! you broke it!

                                                                                      I`ll get you back for that! ;)

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                                                                                      • Sean
                                                                                        revolutionforce.com
                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 2909

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Lord Aga
                                                                                        Damn! you broke it!

                                                                                        I`ll get you back for that! ;)
                                                                                        that was funny. thats it. we are friends. i like you now

                                                                                        -sean
                                                                                        skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                                        sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                                        • Xenophage
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                          • 12122

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                                                          that was funny. thats it. we are friends. i like you now


                                                                                          hahaah your too much sean.. what the fuck. hahhha

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                                                                                          • lesbodojo
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                                                            • 2839

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Sean: If you leave the industry to become a mainstream male model, I will cry.
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                                                                                            • Sean
                                                                                              revolutionforce.com
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 2909

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              im too sexy for my gym sock, too sexy for my gym socks
                                                                                              -sean
                                                                                              skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                                              sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                                              • Brujah
                                                                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                • 22157

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Lars why don't you incorporate some of that geo magic on the cobrand ?

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                                                                                                • Lord Aga
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 479

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                                                                  that was funny. thats it. we are friends. i like you now

                                                                                                  lol

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                                                                                                  • Xenophage
                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                                    • 12122

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                                    Lars why don't you incorporate some of that geo magic on the cobrand ?
                                                                                                    Hmm good point.. I never thought about it.. but its a goo idea

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