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  • ADL Colin
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    • Feb 2001
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    UK court bans online porn sales (May 24th)

    Pornmongers in the UK can no longer send videos or DVDs through the post or sell them online.

    Sex shops in the UK cannot sell adult material except to people who visit their premises. The High Court ruled yesterday that such restrictions are legal because they help prevent pornography being bought by children.

    Two UK companies brought the appeal after being fined by Trading Standards for selling restricted material by post. They argued that the ban was unfair because companies outside the UK would ignore it and damage British businesses.

    But the judgement said the restrictions are lawful. The main reason for ensuring a face-to-face meeting between seller and buyer was to make sure the buyer was old enough.

    Lord Justice Kay accepted that children under 18 might manage to subvert such restrictions but that did not justify removing them.

    Two companies, Interfact Ltd, with a shop in Bexley, and Birmingham-based Pabo Ltd, fell foul of trading standards last year after offering age-restricted videos like Bikers? Gang Bang and Top Marks for Effort through their online catalogues

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05..._no_mailorder/


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    • ADL Colin
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      #2
      WHAT? No commentary on the EVIL UK government?!


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        • pornguy
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          Sounds like Bush is pushing his agnda into other countries.
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            • ADL Colin
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              #4
              Originally posted by pornguy
              Sounds like Bush is pushing his agnda into other countries.
              Yeah, and he was responsible for prohibition too.


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                • David!
                  By the wrath of Agamemnon
                  • Apr 2004
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by pornguy
                  Sounds like Bush is pushing his agnda into other countries.
                  Now we just need rich and directfiesta so we can all sing an hymn to Lenin and a little kumbaya around the natural fire.
                  Here's a pic to help you out.
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                    • ADL Colin
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                      • Feb 2001
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by PussyMan
                      Now we just need rich and directfiesta so we can all sing an hymn to Lenin and a little kumbaya around the natural fire.
                      Here's a pic to help you out.
                      I'm not sure those two have ever criticized another government besides the US in this forum. Sorta like the Bush veto. Will it happen today?


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                        • Johny Traffic
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                          • Apr 2003
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                          This is a very old law. Its always been the law. There has been no change in the law.

                          Its always been illegal for UK companies to send R18 Videos and DVDs through the post. Nothing has changed.

                          Somebody tried to overturn the law, the judges wouldnt overturn the law. So it remains as it always was. DVD companies have to ship them from Europe and not the UK or sell them in sex shops. Exactly the same as they have always had to do


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                            • Johny Traffic
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by pornguy
                              Sounds like Bush is pushing his agnda into other countries.
                              The Law was there before bush was


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                                • AttorneyGeneral Gonzales
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                                  • May 2005
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Johny Traffic
                                  The Law was there before bush was
                                  I am the law!

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                                    • Sarah_Jayne
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                                      • Dec 2002
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                                      #10
                                      for about the 15th time in various threads..it is enforcing an existing rule about selling PHYSICAL products...ie something you put in your dvd player or vcr.

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                                        • ADL Colin
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                                          • Feb 2001
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                          for about the 15th time in various threads..it is enforcing an existing rule about selling PHYSICAL products...ie something you put in your dvd player or vcr.
                                          Right. Videos and DVDs. Who said anything different?


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                                            • Joe Citizen
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                              Right. Videos and DVDs. Who said anything different?
                                              Your thread title says "UK court bans online porn sales"... where did "online" come into it?

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                                                • Johny Traffic
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                  Right. Videos and DVDs. Who said anything different?
                                                  Her point was not that it was Videos & DVD's her point was the is an existing law that has always been there. But someone made an appeal after they got found guilty of the law, they tried to overturn the ruling on the existing law. The judge wouldnt overturn the verdict and so enforcing an existing law thats always been there.
                                                  Last edited by Johny Traffic; 05-25-2005, 04:01 AM.


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                                                    • ADL Colin
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                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                      Your thread title says "UK court bans online porn sales"... where did "online" come into it?
                                                      See the part above the author's name? It's called the title. If you read the article you will understand why.



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                                                        • ADL Colin
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Johny Traffic
                                                          Her point was not that it was Videos & DVD's her point was the is an existing law that has always been there. But someone made an apeal after they got found guilty of the law, they tried to overturn the ruling on the existing law. The judge wouldnt overturn the verdict and so enforcing an existing law thats always been there.
                                                          Yes, I read the article and I also read Sarah's post on another board this morning.


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                                                            • Johny Traffic
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                                                              The article is very misleading, as it says "Pornmongers in the UK can no longer send videos or DVDs through the post or sell them online" It shoul in fact say "Pornmongers in the UK still cant send videos or DVDs through the post or sell them online"


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                                                                • Joe Citizen
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                                  See the part above the author's name? It's called the title. If you read the article you will understand why.
                                                                  Misleading title.

                                                                  It wasn't banned... a ban was upheld.

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                                                                    • David!
                                                                      By the wrath of Agamemnon
                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                      • 6501
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                      Misleading title.

                                                                      It wasn't banned... a ban was upheld.
                                                                      Where is your outrage?
                                                                      Oh, wait. I know, it has nothing to do with Evil GWB
                                                                      .

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                                                                        • Joe Citizen
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Besides, I thought the story about the porn surfing Norwegians who were awarded $40K sounded far more interesting:

                                                                          http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04...nsation_claim/

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                                                                            • Joe Citizen
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by PussyMan
                                                                              Where is your outrage?
                                                                              Oh, wait. I know, it has nothing to do with Evil GWB
                                                                              Why should I be outraged?

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                                                                                • David!
                                                                                  By the wrath of Agamemnon
                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                  • 6501
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                  Why should I be outraged?
                                                                                  Cuz if the US made it illegal to ship human waste through the postal services, you'd be crying like a virgin in heat, but if your mother country upholds a ban on shipping dvd's, then it is ok?????
                                                                                  .

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                                                                                    • a1ka1ine
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                                                                                      damn.. for a moment there i thought this was a law they just made up!!! scary. thanks to reliable information peeps at gfy tho

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                                                                                        • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                                                          Right. Videos and DVDs. Who said anything different?
                                                                                          You are smarter than that..you knew exactly how misleading the article headline was ..as did they. I've written my fair share of text links too, so I understand.

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                                                                                            • Hinc
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Thats the most ridiculous law I ever heard of....hmmm no wait, I think I know one thats worse.
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                                                                                                • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by PussyMan
                                                                                                  Cuz if the US made it illegal to ship human waste through the postal services, you'd be crying like a virgin in heat, but if your mother country upholds a ban on shipping dvd's, then it is ok?????
                                                                                                  When have I ever given a fuck about who bans sending porn DVD's through the mail? Find a post where I did. Like I could give a shit.

                                                                                                  Besides, I don't remember hearing the English screaming about freedom all the time like you simpletons do.

                                                                                                  So perhaps if you Americans shut your fat, ignorant, arrogant pieholes for a minute (and stopped invading other countries) the rest of the world wouldn't be so interested in what you mongrel fuckups did.

                                                                                                  I know I wouldn't.

                                                                                                  P.S. England is your mother country too.

                                                                                                  Last edited by Joe Citizen; 05-25-2005, 04:28 AM.

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                                                                                                    • David!
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                                                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                                                      • 6501
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                                      When have I ever given a fuck about who bans sending porn DVD's through the mail? Find a post where I did. Like I could give a shit.

                                                                                                      Besides, I don't remember hearing the English screaming about freedom all the time like you simpletons do.

                                                                                                      So perhaps if you Americans shut your fat, ignorant, arrogant pieholes for a minute (and stopped invading other countries) the rest of the world wouldn't be so interested in what you mongrel fuckups did.

                                                                                                      I know I wouldn't.

                                                                                                      P.S. England is your mother country too.

                                                                                                      God saves the Queen
                                                                                                      .

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                                                                                                        • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by PussyMan
                                                                                                          God saves the Queen
                                                                                                          Personally, I can't stand the old bitch.

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                                                                                                            • JamesK2
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                                              When have I ever given a fuck about who bans sending porn DVD's through the mail? Find a post where I did. Like I could give a shit.

                                                                                                              Besides, I don't remember hearing the English screaming about freedom all the time like you simpletons do.

                                                                                                              So perhaps if you Americans shut your fat, ignorant, arrogant pieholes for a minute (and stopped invading other countries) the rest of the world wouldn't be so interested in what you mongrel fuckups did.

                                                                                                              I know I wouldn't.

                                                                                                              P.S. England is your mother country too.

                                                                                                              LOL

                                                                                                              Post of the year.

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                                                                                                                • Cassie
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                                                                                                                  and the world keeps changing.....
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                                                                                                                    • ukweb
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      People have gone to prison in the UK sending adult material through the post.
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                                                                                                                        • Tipsy
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                                                          Personally, I can't stand the old bitch.
                                                                                                                          I quite like the whole royal family. But notice I said like and not respect. I think they almost earn their money for entertainment value It's like having highly paid state jesters that never fail to amuse.
                                                                                                                          Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                                                                            • ADL Colin
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                                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by JamesK
                                                                                                                              LOL

                                                                                                                              Post of the year.
                                                                                                                              The guy that got under his skin deserves AT LEAST half the credit!


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                                                                                                                                • ADL Colin
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                                                                  You are smarter than that..you knew exactly how misleading the article headline was ..as did they. I've written my fair share of text links too, so I understand.
                                                                                                                                  Yes, I did! You owe me MORE credit actually. Not less. ;-)


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                                                                                                                                    • David!
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                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2004
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                                                                                                      The guy that got under his skin deserves AT LEAST half the credit!
                                                                                                                                      Trying to argue with joe6nuts is like trying to convince your shadow that you have as much money as Bill Gates
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                                                                                                                                        • ADL Colin
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                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                                                                          Misleading title.

                                                                                                                                          It wasn't banned... a ban was upheld.
                                                                                                                                          DOWN(ing) with the Fuckin' LIBERAL UK Press!


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                                                                                                                                            • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                                                                                                              DOWN(ing) with the Fuckin' LIBERAL UK Press!
                                                                                                                                              Colin, I want to do hard drugs with you.

                                                                                                                                              Come to Amsterdam for New Years and do coke and mushrooms with Labret and me.

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                                                                                                                                                • ADL Colin
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                                                                                  Colin, I want to do hard drugs with you.

                                                                                                                                                  Come to Amsterdam for New Years and do coke and mushrooms with Labret and me.
                                                                                                                                                  If I were still doing drugs I would love to, man. We'd have a great time.

                                                                                                                                                  I have a baby girl on the way. I have to pretend to be respectable now


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                                                                                                                                                    • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                                                                                                                      If I were still doing drugs I would love to, man. We'd have a great time.

                                                                                                                                                      I have a baby girl on the way. I have to pretend to be respectable now
                                                                                                                                                      Damn, fatherhood. Congrats, I think.

                                                                                                                                                      Pretend all you like. Once a drug fiend, always a drug fiend!

                                                                                                                                                      Ah well, at least we can still spar on the boards.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Cassie
                                                                                                                                                          and the world keeps changing.....
                                                                                                                                                          again - nothng changed

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                                                                                                                                                            • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
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                                                                                                                                                                • directfiesta
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                                                                                                  again - nothng changed
                                                                                                                                                                  True. Still shipping in UK every week to my reliable customers...
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                                                                                                                                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                                    • directfiesta
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not sure those two have ever criticized another government besides the US in this forum. Sorta like the Bush veto. Will it happen today?
                                                                                                                                                                      LOL ... Could have started a new thread, with at least 10 items about the US Administration ...

                                                                                                                                                                      Here is one :

                                                                                                                                                                      US SLAMMED OVER RIGHTS

                                                                                                                                                                      The US 'war on terror' has had a drastic impact on human rights worldwide, Amnesty International has warned.

                                                                                                                                                                      And the US is among the worst culprits at eroding basic rights.


                                                                                                                                                                      "The USA as the unrivalled political, military and economic hyper-power sets the tone for governmental behaviour worldwide," Secretary General Irene Khan said in the foreword to Amnesty International's 2005 annual report.

                                                                                                                                                                      "When the most powerful country in the world thumbs its nose at the rule of law and human rights, it grants a licence to others to commit abuse with impunity."

                                                                                                                                                                      The organisation said last year's abuse pictures of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison was never fully probed and the detention of inmates without charge were good examples of America's attitude.

                                                                                                                                                                      "The detention facility at Guantanamo Bay has become the gulag of our times," Ms Khan.

                                                                                                                                                                      Hundreds of people are being held in Guantanamo and the US airbase at Bagram in Afghanistan - some for more than

                                                                                                                                                                      three years - without charge and with no access to legal representation.

                                                                                                                                                                      Ms Khan said America's actions had "made the security situation worse".

                                                                                                                                                                      She accused the US of 'subcontracting torture' to get information from detainees.

                                                                                                                                                                      "The US government has gone to great lengths to restrict the application of the Geneva Convention and to 're-define' torture," she said.

                                                                                                                                                                      "Governments are trying to subcontract torture. Justice is not just being denied it is being diverted," she said.

                                                                                                                                                                      "To argue that torture is warranted is to push us back to the Middle Ages."

                                                                                                                                                                      Colombia, Sudan and Zimbabwe were also singled out for criticism.

                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...355570,00.html
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                                                                                                                                                                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Kevsh
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                                                                                                                                          WHAT? No commentary on the EVIL UK government?!
                                                                                                                                                                          I think it's a good idea, personally. Anything reasonable that helps prevent porn getting into the hands of minors is a good step... and this certainly sounds like a reasonable step.

                                                                                                                                                                          Of course, it does kind of open the flood gates doesn't it? Until the adult industry (or anyone else for that matter) can come up with a way to better ensure they are not selling their content to minors, expect to see more of this.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                                                                • MrChips
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Seriously

                                                                                                                                                                                  So - is it legal for a UK website, run by a uk business, hosted in the UK, to sell memberships to a members area where the visitor found the site online.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Lets say an english company, registered in england, hosted in london - had a pay porn site (with the same content type that is banned by the current law as mentioned - re posting etc), where customers joined ONLINE with their credit card.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Is that english company breaking english law?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                                                                                                                      Now with more Jayne
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 40077
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      it isn't banned content....it is the PHYSICAL item. It is hard to explain the different comissions that govern different sides of things. I sort of understand your point but (for now) this particular ruling is about physical goods.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Welcome to the world of confusion that is being a smut merchant in the UK. Though anyone that hosts hardcore porn in the UK needs to be shot anyway.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • MrChips
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Ok

                                                                                                                                                                                          Well - I host in the US, but only softcore really.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Is it legal for me as a UK company to earn commission from nastydollars for example - by driving traffic to their sites through SEO with pages containing banners etc

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