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  • StickyGreen
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    • Oct 2003
    • 13076

    #1

    If you have fake/hidden dns whois info...

    ...then how can the DOJ tell who owns the site? they contact the host?
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  • BlueWire
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2004
    • 4628

    #2
    Bingo...if you really really care about being secret than you host offshore

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    • kernelpanic
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jan 2005
      • 2961

      #3
      They'll contact your upstream provider for billing info, with a subpoena if necessary.



      Move to http://www.havenco.com/ if you happen to be paranoid


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      • StickyGreen
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        • Oct 2003
        • 13076

        #4
        Originally posted by kernelpanic
        They'll contact your upstream provider for billing info, with a subpoena if necessary.



        Move to http://www.havenco.com/ if you happen to be paranoid
        what would be the use? if i LIVE in the u.s. i have to comply with u.s. law regardless of where my site is hosted.
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        • paymeback
          Confirmed User
          • May 2005
          • 1478

          #5
          Is it actually a legal requirement to fill in all the details of the domain owner?
          Or aslong as they can contact you via one of the methods(email) is it ok?
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          • kernelpanic
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jan 2005
            • 2961

            #6
            Originally posted by StickyGreen
            what would be the use? if i LIVE in the u.s. i have to comply with u.s. law regardless of where my site is hosted.
            If your DNS and hosting have been arranged by a provider who will not comply with subpoenas or requests for information, then you are effectively immune from anyone knowing. It would look a little something like this:


            DOJ: Please present your real info.
            You: Fuck off
            DOJ: Host, please give us the contact info, under threat of US subpoena
            Host: Fuck off

            DOJ heads elsewhere for an easier target.


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            • StickyGreen
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              • Oct 2003
              • 13076

              #7
              Originally posted by kernelpanic
              If your DNS and hosting have been arranged by a provider who will not comply with subpoenas or requests for information, then you are effectively immune from anyone knowing. It would look a little something like this:


              DOJ: Please present your real info.
              You: Fuck off
              DOJ: Host, please give us the contact info, under threat of US subpoena
              Host: Fuck off

              DOJ heads elsewhere for an easier target.
              well i'm pretty sure webair would cooperate with the government...
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              • kernelpanic
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2005
                • 2961

                #8
                Originally posted by paymeback
                Is it actually a legal requirement to fill in all the details of the domain owner?
                Or aslong as they can contact you via one of the methods(email) is it ok?
                Its not a legal requirement for the international domains, however under ICANN rules you can lose your domain for intentionally falsifying information.

                Certain countries have laws prohibiting misappropriation of domains with their country code.

                It is illegal in the United States to falsify domain contact info to facilitate another crime.


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                • kernelpanic
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 2961

                  #9
                  Originally posted by StickyGreen
                  well i'm pretty sure webair would cooperate with the government...
                  Thats why I suggested offshore hosting


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                  • StickyGreen
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 13076

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kernelpanic
                    Thats why I suggested offshore hosting
                    well that would take care of the hosting, but what about registerfly where the domain dns info is?
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                    • College Downtime
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2005
                      • 557

                      #11
                      off shore hosting is the only way around it
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