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  • J$tyle$
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Apr 2003
    • 11500
    #1

    2257 - The sky is falling!!!!

    Well, not really.

    BUT

    Like it or not - regardless of what happens with the FSC you all will have work to do.

    Some of these things printed in the Federal Rgister today are going to stick and there's nothing the FSC will be able to do about it.

    Learn about it. Stay informed.

    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...f/05-10107.pdf

    If you don't have 2257 info from a content provider GET IT.

    If you don't have all 2257 info BE PREPARED to remove that content from your site when time demands it.

    Time to run your business as a business.

    Get your shit in order or get the fuck out.

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    • Stallion
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2001
      • 6632
      #2
      oh uh sky is falling.....
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        • Donny
          As you wish...
          • May 2002
          • 13754
          #3

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            • tranza
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              • Jun 2003
              • 57559
              #4
              Thanks for the heads up...
              I'm just a newbie.

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                • Honez
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                  • Apr 2003
                  • 6636
                  #5
                  Donovan stop posting that pic! I haven't had dinner yet.
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                    • Donny
                      As you wish...
                      • May 2002
                      • 13754
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Honez
                      Donovan stop posting that pic! I haven't had dinner yet.
                      you know you want the 57 year old...

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                        • Brujah
                          Beer Money Baron
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 22157
                          #7
                          Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                          you know you want the 57 year old...
                          what's wrong with the 57 year old ?

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                            • pr0
                              rockin tha trailerpark
                              • May 2001
                              • 23088
                              #8
                              It's time to run my business by the rules of a nazi regime, is that what you meant by ...."running my business as a business"

                              All this is going to do is harm the u.s. economy, it will do nothing to stop the proliferation of unregistered & illegal pornography.
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                                • J$tyle$
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 11500
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by pr0
                                  It's time to run my business by the rules of a nazi regime, is that what you meant by ...."running my business as a business"

                                  All this is going to do is harm the u.s. economy, it will do nothing to stop the proliferation of unregistered & illegal pornography.
                                  Depends.

                                  IMHO, it will shake out a lot of part timers, free site owners that just can't keep records for whatever reason, and NON-business people ...

                                  AND that will put more money into the pockets of REAL business people that know how to run their businesses that learn and follow the "law".



                                  Of course I could be completely wrong.

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                                    • Brujah
                                      Beer Money Baron
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 22157
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                      Depends.

                                      IMHO, it will shake out a lot of part timers, free site owners that just can't keep records for whatever reason, and NON-business people ...

                                      AND that will put more money into the pockets of REAL business people that know how to run their businesses that learn and follow the "law".



                                      Of course I could be completely wrong.

                                      J, people say this anytime there are new (CCPA, Visa, etc ) regulations and yet there's no real shakeup. Then there's the usual talk about how program owners will all stop taking affiliates. Woo! The new model, no affiliates or only affiliates currently sending 10+ sales per day, blah blah.. Payouts getting smaller and smaller, there's always the doom and gloom predictions that never come.

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                                        • ytcracker
                                          stc is the greatest
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 12403
                                          #11
                                          i think i am like one of 5 people who doesnt give a flying fuck about this stuff
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                                            • J$tyle$
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Apr 2003
                                              • 11500
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                              J, people say this anytime there are new (CCPA, Visa, etc ) regulations and yet there's no real shakeup. Then there's the usual talk about how program owners will all stop taking affiliates. Woo! The new model, no affiliates or only affiliates currently sending 10+ sales per day, blah blah.. Payouts getting smaller and smaller, there's always the doom and gloom predictions that never come.
                                              Brujah - some of the recordkeeping stuff WON'T go away ... if a guy has 500 free sites and can't provide records .. eithter he'll risk it or close those domains

                                              This is not doom and gloom ... record keeping will knock some people out of the biz

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                                                • SykkBoy2
                                                  Jesus loves bacon
                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 19969
                                                  #13
                                                  you know who is loving this and sitting back and laughing? the video porn guys..the dinosaurs who dismissed the Internet as a fad and saw their marketshare start to disappear...they arer sitting back, rubbing their hands and snickering...
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                                                    • seeric
                                                      ..........
                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 41917
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                                      Depends.

                                                      IMHO, it will shake out a lot of part timers, free site owners that just can't keep records for whatever reason, and NON-business people ...

                                                      AND that will put more money into the pockets of REAL business people that know how to run their businesses that learn and follow the "law".



                                                      Of course I could be completely wrong.


                                                      i love it. wow. reading the whole thing gives me the whole new perspective on the whole industry. next few years are gonna be interesting. i see lots of drama.

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                                                        • Brujah
                                                          Beer Money Baron
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 22157
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                                          Brujah - some of the recordkeeping stuff WON'T go away ... if a guy has 500 free sites and can't provide records .. eithter he'll risk it or close those domains

                                                          This is not doom and gloom ... record keeping will knock some people out of the biz

                                                          If you buy content from providers who provide adequate documentation, you should be fine. For all others it'll be a lot of work or at least time consuming to comply but it's not really shakeup-worthy I don't think. Depends who you bought content from in the past. Some could look at this as an opportunity to refresh their business with a new investment in content from those providers who do provide adequate docs. If they were doing it right in the first place with existing regs, it shouldn't be all that difficult to bring things back in order for the new regs.

                                                          I'll remain optimistic about it at least as far as it concerns webmasters with free sites, avs, or other. Granted, program owners, and TGP owners may have a lot more to worry about due to their business model and volume of content.

                                                          Which brings some issues to mind. Is there a thread with some intelligent discussion on the issue from the TGP owner/webmaster perspective that exists anywhere ? They might have the most difficulty complying ? I'm sure most program owners will get their house in order and adapt as always.

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                                                            • J$tyle$
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                              • 11500
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                                              If you buy content from providers who provide adequate documentation, you should be fine. For all others it'll be a lot of work or at least time consuming to comply but it's not really shakeup-worthy I don't think. Depends who you bought content from in the past. Some could look at this as an opportunity to refresh their business with a new investment in content from those providers who do provide adequate docs. If they were doing it right in the first place with existing regs, it shouldn't be all that difficult to bring things back in order for the new regs.

                                                              I'll remain optimistic about it at least as far as it concerns webmasters with free sites, avs, or other. Granted, program owners, and TGP owners may have a lot more to worry about due to their business model and volume of content.

                                                              Which brings some issues to mind. Is there a thread with some intelligent discussion on the issue from the TGP owner/webmaster perspective that exists anywhere ? They might have the most difficulty complying ? I'm sure most program owners will get their house in order and adapt as always.
                                                              Imagine the time and effoert it will take a guy with even 50 free sites to record and cross reverence every banner on his 50 sites?

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                                                              100 sites?

                                                              more?

                                                              Dude, I can see a lot of people throwing in the towel and turning off their domains and that's just one example.

                                                              Guys that have thousands of pages indexed in the search engines?

                                                              OY VEY!

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                                                                • J$tyle$
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 11500
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                  you know who is loving this and sitting back and laughing? the video porn guys..the dinosaurs who dismissed the Internet as a fad and saw their marketshare start to disappear...they arer sitting back, rubbing their hands and snickering...
                                                                  and providing ME with ALL documentation

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                                                                    • J$tyle$
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                      • 11500
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                      i love it. wow. reading the whole thing gives me the whole new perspective on the whole industry. next few years are gonna be interesting. i see lots of drama.
                                                                      It's going to be interesting. That's for sure!

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                                                                        • stev0
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                          • 6801
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                                                          Depends.

                                                                          IMHO, it will shake out a lot of part timers, free site owners that just can't keep records for whatever reason, and NON-business people ...

                                                                          AND that will put more money into the pockets of REAL business people that know how to run their businesses that learn and follow the "law".



                                                                          Of course I could be completely wrong.

                                                                          I doubt if these changes will cause many problems... I highly doubt they'd start going after legitimate webmasters (using 18+ models) just for the hell of it using a CP law as an excuse. If they did then there's a serious problem with the judicial system that is alot bigger than this little industry.

                                                                          I'm guessing the changes are just so it's easier for them to convict people peddling CP. At least I hope so...

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                                                                            • stev0
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                              • 6801
                                                                              #20
                                                                              The thing you have to realize is that technically porn (especially hardcore porn) is illegal in several states already due to obscenity laws. They don't enforce these laws unless there is an issue to be dealt with... no issue = no problem.

                                                                              If you're not selling CP, i highly doubt you have anything to worry about.

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                                                                                • ADL Colin
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                  • 11929
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                                                                  Time to run your business as a business.
                                                                                  Thank God. I mean Bush.


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                                                                                    • ADL Colin
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                      • 11929
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                                                                      record keeping will knock some people out of the biz
                                                                                      Yup. Who wants to play Enron?


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                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32189
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Perhaps if the credit card companies severely limited auto rebills for adult transactions... perhaps then the phrase "the sky is falling" would gain some sort of traction. Quite unlikely for now. Regardless, even in such a scenario, it would be temporary since people would just move to other models and per sale partnerships. Plus there might be micropayment schemes that would fix certain core issues. Just my 2 cents

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                                                                                            • jimmyf
                                                                                              OU812
                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                              • 12651
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                              J, people say this anytime there are new (CCPA, Visa, etc ) regulations and yet there's no real shakeup. Then there's the usual talk about how program owners will all stop taking affiliates. Woo! The new model, no affiliates or only affiliates currently sending 10+ sales per day, blah blah.. Payouts getting smaller and smaller, there's always the doom and gloom predictions that never come.
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                                                                                                • american pervert
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                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 6840
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                                                                                  Yup. Who wants to play Enron?

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                                                                                                    • Hinc
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                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                                                      • 2577
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Hate these new rules....we happily document consenting adults etc....but linking it to every url/pic...thats insane.
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                                                                                                        • mrthumbs
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                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                                          • 11702
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by stev0
                                                                                                          I doubt if these changes will cause many problems... I highly doubt they'd start going after legitimate webmasters (using 18+ models) just for the hell of it using a CP law as an excuse. If they did then there's a serious problem with the judicial system that is alot bigger than this little industry.

                                                                                                          I'm guessing the changes are just so it's easier for them to convict people peddling CP. At least I hope so...
                                                                                                          Finally someone that understands.

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                                                                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                              • 34515
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                                                                                              Well, not really.
                                                                                                              You sound like an adult entertainment attorney.
                                                                                                              WG
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                                                                                                                • thonglife
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                  • 1566
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by ytcracker
                                                                                                                  i think i am like one of 5 people who doesnt give a flying fuck about this stuff
                                                                                                                  You can include me too - completely unenforceable. There's still online pharmacies, spam, file-sharing, celeb forums, etc.. Just another online jay-walking law. Also, I also don't give a shit about the scaremongers - "Oh no!!! OH God!! You're gonna be sorry.. You're gonna go to jail" I've heard it all before, have been to jail many times and none of it has ever been for anything related to computers or the internet.

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                                                                                                                    • J$tyle$
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                      • 11500
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                      You sound like an adult entertainment attorney.
                                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                                      Ha!

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