Obscenity Bust! This is fucking INSANE!!!

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  • Greg B
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2001
    • 7014

    #1

    Obscenity Bust! This is fucking INSANE!!!

    I got this in the mail today from the CBLDF ( Comic Book Legal Defense Fund ). As you read it you'll understand why I don't publish adult comics in print. People and laws in this country are fucking nuts to say the least. Soon they'll be coming for YOU.
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    ITEM! CBLDF Takes Action in GA Case; Files Four Motions to Dismiss

    Counsel for the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund have submitted four
    motions to dismiss the charges against retailer Gordon Lee, owner of
    Legends in Rome, GA. Last February, the Fund initiated Lee's
    defense against charges resulting from accidentally distributing
    Alternative Comics #2, a Free Comic Book Day book from 2004, to a
    minor. The anthology includes the story "The Salon" by Nick
    Bertozzi, which contains a segment depicting Picasso in the nude. The
    Fund has already spent in excess of $20,000 defending this case.

    Lee was charged with seven criminal counts for allegedly violating two
    laws. He was charged with two counts of violating the felony of
    Distribution of Material Depicting Nudity or Sexual Conduct (OCGA
    §16-12-81), a law that bans the unsolicited delivery of any content
    depicting nudity to any person in the state of Georgia and carries a
    penalty of one to three years in prison and/or fines of up to $10,000.
    One of the two counts is for handing the comic to the alleged victim,
    and the other is for handing the comic to an alleged John or Jane Doe.
    Lee is also charged with five counts of violating the misdemeanor of
    Distribution of Material Harmful to Minors (OCGA §16-12-103). He
    is charged with three discrete counts of violating the law for handing
    a single copy of the comic book to the alleged victim. He is also
    charged with two counts for allegedly giving the comics to John or
    Jane Doe.

    The motions, written by Alan Begner and Paul Cadle, CBLDF's
    counsel on this case, were filed on May 2. The first motion seeks to
    dismiss the John Doe counts. The second seeks to dismiss both felony
    counts under the rule of lenity, which requires that when a defendant
    is charged with a felony and a misdemeanor for the same conduct, the
    lesser penalty must apply. The third motion seeks to dismiss the
    felony counts on the grounds that Georgia's Distribution of
    Material Depicting Nudity or Sexual Conduct is unconstitutional on its
    face and as applied. The fourth motion seeks to dismiss the
    misdemeanor counts of Distribution of Material Harmful to Minors on
    the grounds that the law is unconstitutional on its face and as
    applied to this case.

    CBLDF Executive Director Charles Brownstein says, "Mr. Begner and
    Mr. Cadle have presented some very persuasive legal arguments in these
    motions. There's no question that Gordon Lee's First
    Amendment rights are being trampled upon, and so we're pleased to
    have brought such an intelligent and aggressive legal team in to
    defend him. We are all very optimistic that these motions will carry
    significant weight as we move through the pretrial stage of this
    case."

    Hearings on these motions have yet to be scheduled, but are expected
    to occur in the summer.

    To support the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund's defense of this
    case, please visit http://www.cbldf.org for information on membership
    and donations.
  • Meta Ridley
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2003
    • 3433

    #2
    cliffnotes?
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    • Sir Basil
      Confirmed User
      • May 2005
      • 106

      #3
      Harkens back to the following story:

      MIKE DIANA'S ZINE "BOILED ANGEL" FOUND OBSCENE IN FLORIDA
      “Wolves which batten upon lambs, lambs consumed by wolves, the strong who immolate the weak, the weak victims of the strong: there you have Nature, there you have her intentions, there you have her scheme: a perpetual action and reaction, a host of vices, a host of virtues, in one word, a perfect equilibrium resulting from the equality of good and evil on earth.”

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      • SmokeyTheBear
        ►SouthOfHeaven
        • Jun 2004
        • 28609

        #4
        Originally posted by Meta Ridley
        cliffnotes?
        Draw a nude picasso and let a teen see it , and you might end up with jail time
        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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        • Meta Ridley
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2003
          • 3433

          #5
          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
          Draw a nude picasso and let a teen see it , and you might end up with jail time

          Thank you.
          [email protected]

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          • cherrylula
            lol
            • Jan 2002
            • 15969

            #6
            damn... so what about all these violent adult video games kids are freaking out over??

            I sure hope they go after them too. But I agree, people should not be distributing porn in any shape or form to minors. That includes things on the tv and in the news, but I suppose it doesn't apply to things like Nicole Kidman in a tub naked with a ten year old boy. After all, thats a movie and its art, right?

            gee whiz.

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            • Fletch XXX
              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
              • Jan 2002
              • 60840

              #7
              zines and comics are some of the most DIY freedom of press and freedom of speech fighters.

              do not applaud this.

              they go after the small ones first because they are easy kills.

              support freedom of speech through zines.

              zines are what Ben Franklin had in mind when he started fucking press!

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              • Zebra
                Banned from Kimmy's couch
                • Oct 2001
                • 5091

                #8
                http://www.cbldf.org/casefiles/planetcomics.shtml
                One of the most famous comic book obsenity cases was the Planet Comics bust in Oklahoma City in 1995.
                I worked for Planet Comics in the early 90's and ended up buying their stock for my own store later on.
                Amazing how someone's life can be so totally fucked over something like this.
                Politics man, it's all politics.
                Old School

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                • Bansheelinks
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 6023

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Zebra
                  http://www.cbldf.org/casefiles/planetcomics.shtml
                  One of the most famous comic book obsenity cases was the Planet Comics bust in Oklahoma City in 1995.
                  I worked for Planet Comics in the early 90's and ended up buying their stock for my own store later on.
                  Amazing how someone's life can be so totally fucked over something like this.
                  Politics man, it's all politics.
                  wow what a sick society we live in when you can be prosecuted for just that. but hey, they can go rent movies with ppl's heads being cut off.

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                  • Fletch XXX
                    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 60840

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bansheelinks
                    wow what a sick society we live in when you can be prosecuted for just that. but hey, they can go rent movies with ppl's heads being cut off.
                    and Charles Bronson made a lot of RAPE REVENGE movies. SHow me a video rental with DEATH WISH, 1, 2 3,4,5,6 - ALL ABOUT RAPE

                    america loves rape, and they will play movies like Blue Lagoon (naked children) - Pretty Baby (naked children and 12 year old prostitutes and forced sex)

                    but oh no, not a comic!!!!

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                    • Fletch XXX
                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 60840

                      #11
                      why did he plead guilty?

                      "pleaded guilty to two felony charges of trafficking in obscenity for selling the Verotik comic Verotika #4 to consenting adults."

                      to consenting adults?

                      when is it a felony to sell adult things to adults?

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                      • Fletch XXX
                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 60840

                        #12
                        also, i have the VEROTIK comics

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                        • Zebra
                          Banned from Kimmy's couch
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 5091

                          #13
                          The funny thing is when I bought Planet Comics inventory I found tons of copies of the Verotik issue that they got busted for and the cops missed. Met Glenn Danzig at a comic show a couple years later and told him the story and he bought me a beer and pizza.
                          Old School

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                          • Elli
                            Reach for those stars!
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 17991

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                            why did he plead guilty?

                            "pleaded guilty to two felony charges of trafficking in obscenity for selling the Verotik comic Verotika #4 to consenting adults."

                            to consenting adults?

                            when is it a felony to sell adult things to adults?
                            "a law that bans the unsolicited delivery of any content
                            depicting nudity to any person in the state of Georgia and carries a
                            penalty of one to three years in prison and/or fines of up to $10,000."
                            email: [email protected]

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                            • Fletch XXX
                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 60840

                              #15
                              was it unsolicited?

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                              • College Downtime
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2005
                                • 557

                                #16
                                I am confused as to why he plead guilty
                                College Downtime.com

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                                • Fletch XXX
                                  GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 60840

                                  #17
                                  this is like someone renting Charles Bronson - Death Wish and being offended by the rape it contains inside.

                                  unsolicited?

                                  hardly

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                                  • Elli
                                    Reach for those stars!
                                    • Apr 2003
                                    • 17991

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                    was it unsolicited?
                                    "he Fund initiated Lee's
                                    defense against charges resulting from accidentally distributing
                                    Alternative Comics #2, a Free Comic Book Day book from 2004, to a
                                    minor."

                                    Sounds like they were just handing them out blindly to people?
                                    email: [email protected]

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                                    • Fletch XXX
                                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 60840

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Elli

                                      Sounds like they were just handing them out blindly to people?
                                      no it doesnt.

                                      sounds like one person. he is getting multiple charges for one offense.

                                      having collected comics my entire life, i was buying worst comics from retailers when i was young.

                                      this is uncalled for.

                                      alternative comics have been around forever, no one is just distributing them to children.

                                      meanwhile... kids are being sold alcohol in liquor stores across america and no one cares

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                                      • Elli
                                        Reach for those stars!
                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 17991

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                        no it doesnt.

                                        sounds like one person. he is getting multiple charges for one offense.

                                        having collected comics my entire life, i was buying worst comics from retailers when i was young.

                                        this is uncalled for.

                                        alternative comics have been around forever, no one is just distributing them to children.

                                        meanwhile... kids are being sold alcohol in liquor stores across america and no one cares
                                        Good point. It sounds like Georgia is trying to crack down on sinners or something. *sigh*
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                                        • Bansheelinks
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 6023

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Elli
                                          Good point. It sounds like Georgia is trying to crack down on sinners or something. *sigh*
                                          yeah, remember, this is the state that broke into a gay guy's house, and charged him with having sodomy.

                                          hey georgia, why don't you grow up?

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                                          • Elli
                                            Reach for those stars!
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 17991

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Bansheelinks
                                            yeah, remember, this is the state that broke into a gay guy's house, and charged him with having sodomy.

                                            hey georgia, why don't you grow up?
                                            hahahhah

                                            What? wtf?
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                                            • Fletch XXX
                                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 60840

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Elli
                                              hahahhah

                                              What? wtf?
                                              the broke into a mans home and arrested him for having anal sex with his gay lover. It was big news.

                                              Georgia's state sodomy law was notorious because the United States Supreme Court upheld it in the destructive 1986 ruling, Bowers v. Hardwick. Michael Hardwick, who has since died, was arrested in his own bedroom, but the High Court rejected arguments that his federal right to privacy had been violated.

                                              Hardwick is often considered the lesbian and gay civil rights movement's biggest setback because it has been widely misused to justify myriad anti-gay actions around the country, including employment discrimination and unfair custody rulings against lesbian and gay parents.
                                              http://www.lambdalegal.org/cgi-bin/i...tml?record=310

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                                              • Mr.Fiction
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 9484

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sir Basil
                                                The Mike Diana case was unbelievable. Florida is no friend of free speech.

                                                If you believe in free speech, consider supporting the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund - they do good work.

                                                http://www.cbldf.org/
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                                                • Greg B
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 7014

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                  The Mike Diana case was unbelievable. Florida is no friend of free speech.

                                                  If you believe in free speech, consider supporting the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund - they do good work.

                                                  http://www.cbldf.org/
                                                  Good for you Mr. Fiction. Glad to see you guys can pitch in on something worthwhile.

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                                                  • Greg B
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 7014

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Zebra
                                                    The funny thing is when I bought Planet Comics inventory I found tons of copies of the Verotik issue that they got busted for and the cops missed. Met Glenn Danzig at a comic show a couple years later and told him the story and he bought me a beer and pizza.
                                                    Haha! Danzig lives up the street from me. He had pals of mine do the artwork for his comics too. I haven't seen him in months though.

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                                                    • Elli
                                                      Reach for those stars!
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 17991

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                      the broke into a mans home and arrested him for having anal sex with his gay lover. It was big news.



                                                      http://www.lambdalegal.org/cgi-bin/i...tml?record=310
                                                      That's beyond ridiculous. Talk about a witch hunt. *sigh*
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                                                      • Greg B
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 7014

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Zebra
                                                        http://www.cbldf.org/casefiles/planetcomics.shtml
                                                        One of the most famous comic book obsenity cases was the Planet Comics bust in Oklahoma City in 1995.
                                                        I worked for Planet Comics in the early 90's and ended up buying their stock for my own store later on.
                                                        Amazing how someone's life can be so totally fucked over something like this.
                                                        Politics man, it's all politics.
                                                        Glad someone remembers that case. Dinna know you bout out Planet Comics! What small world. I've been in comics for over 20 years. It's a fucked up business full of hotheads and bigheads. Egomaniacs too. Yet when some shit like this happens you gotta stand strong. It's totally absurd and irresponsible.

                                                        If Georgia enforced real dangerous laws like drinking and driving and fucking your relatives then it wouldn't have time for shit like this.

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