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Old 09-22-2006, 04:21 PM  
seeric
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Originally Posted by ugaboogah
This is a great post - I am on the traffic panel at the next Phoenix forum in October and I will keep this all in mind. There are some very valid points mentioned here that I wholly agree with. You have to remember that the more detailed you get about any topic, the less people will be listening. I too reached a point in my career where I felt that I outgrew the basics class. That is why people with the level of experience that (we) have, have to look elsewhere for "higher" education. Internext seminars are the grade schools of the industry because they target mass consumers. The Phoenix Forums are more like high schools targeting informed but not industry experts. The next level of education is message boards like this one. You can get personal one to one information about something very specific to you. The forums are much more general themes appealing to more than three people. I have no interest in NATS or CMS. There is no arena for advanced industry professionals to collaborate other than places like here. This is a free exchange of ideas with others that have attained a level of experience similar or more advanced than our own. Everyone one of us were noobs at one point and time. If someone started a CMS class at internext how much would you learn in an hour or two. This is the best resource available. There is a high probability that someone is using and recommends a product that you require more information about. So you can learn from their experience. Lastly, sometimes you just got to blaze your own trails. Why don't magicians tell their secrets because they will be out of business if everyone knew how the tricks were done.

i agree with alot of what you are saying here. i'm asking for some classes for existing customers. it seems distance is the main detractor when it comes to getting a sitdown. i currently have MPA and MAS and both are drastically new to me. even though i have been in the biz since 99 and dealt with mostly proproetary affil backends and CMS, i now am faced with a brand new system and no time to teach myself. will i learn it? or course, but having an intensive class given by the people who created it and got you as a customer, is ideal and kills that learning curve by a great degree of time. i have a class thanks to worldwide content on tuesday next week. they know it really well and i am fortunate to be in l.a., and impatient enough to look around and ask questions. mansion has been a great help and it was oystein that even gave me raffi's name as someone who has their backend in l.a. and really knows it inside and out. this is not a demand by any means, it is merely a suggestion that i think those of us that have been going to shows forever would consider one hell of a motivator to attend shows.

good points you made as well. the classes shouldnt be offered to newbies. what does it really take to rent out a room at one of these hotels for 3-4 hours and allow "customers" or verified potential buyers into the classes. i bet you'd pull more potential customers out of one of those classes than you would sponsoring an entire party and buying free drinks for people.
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