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  • Juicy D. Links
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #101
    100


    WOJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Libertine
      sex dwarf
      • May 2002
      • 17860

      #102
      Originally posted by Big Ray
      You make the assumption that some sort of block is wanted in the search area. You are assuming that someone is incapable of doing that.

      Let me ask you this. If it were your site, would you want the functionality dictated to you by 1% of the people that use your site?

      Why would Lensman put an image verification system in front of search that impacts 99% of the legitimate people that use search? I?m sure no one is going to to get upset about that.

      The key to a successful GFY is to be accountable for the functionality and take care of the people that make site great. Users shouldn?t have to change the way they interact with the site. Apply your same logic to google.
      The way it is right now, it impacts 100% of the legitimate people that use search in a much more annoying way than some simple image verification
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      • goBigtime
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2002
        • 7761

        #103
        Originally posted by azguy
        I assume that makes no sense to you? Obviously that should be the case. If Lensman is okay with SEs that simply publishes 1 or 2 lines as an excerpt and link directly to the thread - than that SE should be permitted to crawl GFY.
        It makse sense to me. Because ultimately, it's Lens's board. He makes the rules.
        Lensman may be ok with SE's because the SE's give him enough back in order to justify allowing them to spider him. I would think this would work for anyone wanting to spider GFY... if it somehow made sense to Lens and was good for the board overall, why wouldn't he allow it?

        So, if he says you can't spider his board, you can't. But he should be able to back that up with some tech skills as well.... because as Ray said, people overseas just assume wipe their ass with any legal documents you send them.

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        • goBigtime
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2002
          • 7761

          #104
          Originally posted by punkworld
          The way it is right now, it impacts 100% of the legitimate people that use search in a much more annoying way than some simple image verification
          So true.

          For a second there the searches were BLAZING fast. I was thinking they finally had a db specialist come in and hook everything up properly (and by that I mean hardware/software/db). I mean I tried a few searches with the most obscure things that wouldn't have been cached & the results just popped right up. Sick sick sick

          I hope they can get themselves back to that point.

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          • Big Ray
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2003
            • 464

            #105
            Originally posted by goBigtime
            You just need to think about it a little more Ray. If you can't come up with anything, then brainstorm with people who you think can. If they can't, then find some new people to brainstorm with.

            But there are plenty of answers to this problem.

            If this were 12 months ago, I would have gladly explained some of them to you. I can't give away too many ideas away anymore though. I really wish I could, I enjoy GFY as much as the next guy.


            I'll give you a clue though... even if you had image verification on the search 100% of the time, I don't think GFY members would give two fucks about it when faced with your alternative - no search at all.

            Maybe you should do VB's image-verification based search as a temporary fix then? Since it's obviously a better solution than no search at all. No?


            And this isn't google, so it's illogical to apply the same logic to it.

            But maybe you should look to google for solutions for your problem.
            This is not a technical problem. I understand you think yourself a great coder (if pontification made it so). We have a few around here as well.

            We have a plan for GFY search. It's easy, and won't impact the user experience; however, it takes time to implement.

            You, by your own admission above, know that there is more than one solution to these types of problems. You have described ONE WAY to fix this. I respect that. What you?re saying would work TECHNICALLY. If Lensman wants to go that route, then he will instruct us to do so. Until then, we continue to push forward with our plan to fix search. In the meantime, search will remain down as per the instructions of this boards owner while resources are directed at building the new search infrastructure.

            I always look at things in the ?big picture? sense. I?m a geek by nature, but maturity and experience has proven that technical issues are not always resolved with technical solutions.

            As per Google Search and GFY Search, isn't it kinda the same thing? Do you think google would lose market share if they put an image verification system on the front page of search? And required all users to use it before clicking on a "search"?

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            • Big Ray
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2003
              • 464

              #106
              Originally posted by goBigtime
              So true.

              For a second there the searches were BLAZING fast. I was thinking they finally had a db specialist come in and hook everything up properly (and by that I mean hardware/software/db). I mean I tried a few searches with the most obscure things that wouldn't have been cached & the results just popped right up. Sick sick sick

              I hope they can get themselves back to that point.
              We will very soon. Things take time to implement. the same people that fixed the problem then are fixing the problem now.

              I understand that search being down is impacting users worse than the perceived impact of an image verification system. The question we ask ourselves is the following....

              "Do we want to use valuable resources to take a step backwards, to have to go back afterwards and fix the fix?"

              The anwer we have made is no.
              Last edited by Big Ray; 05-20-2005, 04:19 PM.

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              • gecko
                ******
                • Jun 2002
                • 21846

                #107
                Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                100


                WOJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                He is out of order
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                • Big Ray
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 464

                  #108
                  I'm out for the night. Off to the city for dinner with friends! Thanks for the good posts and questions.

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                  • Babaganoosh
                    ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 15841

                    #109
                    There's some fucked up logic in this thread. No wonder the search has been shaky for so long.
                    I like pie.

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                    • goBigtime
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 7761

                      #110
                      Originally posted by Big Ray
                      As per Google Search and GFY Search, isn't it kinda the same thing? Do you think google would lose market share if they put an image verification system on the front page of search? And required all users to use it before clicking on a "search"?
                      You're thinking inside the box Ray.

                      Google already has anti-spider protection built in to their engine. That is why I suggested for you to check out what their solutions are...
                      Last edited by goBigtime; 05-20-2005, 04:32 PM.

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                      • Crypt
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 2225

                        #111
                        Originally posted by Big Ray
                        You make the assumption that some sort of block is wanted in the search area. You are assuming that someone is incapable of doing that.

                        Let me ask you this. If it were your site, would you want the functionality dictated to you by 1% of the people that use your site?

                        Why would Lensman put an image verification system in front of search that impacts 99% of the legitimate people that use search? I?m sure no one is going to to get upset about that.

                        The key to a successful GFY is to be accountable for the functionality and take care of the people that make site great. Users shouldn?t have to change the way they interact with the site. Apply your same logic to google.
                        Google use a image verification when you do to much automated query to stop ppl like notjoe

                        Just use a image verification after 25 search or shit like that , no one will care except Notjoe
                        Last edited by Crypt; 05-20-2005, 04:34 PM.

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                        • goBigtime
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 7761

                          #112
                          Originally posted by Crypt
                          Google use a image verification when you do to much automated query to stop ppl like notjoe

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                          • notjoe
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 5599

                            #113
                            Originally posted by Crypt
                            Google use a image verification when you do to much automated query to stop ppl like notjoe

                            Just use a image verification after 25 search or shit like that , no one will care except Notjoe
                            thats what my search is up and running while theirs is down? try again troll

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                            • will76
                              Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                              • May 2003
                              • 18037

                              #114
                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                              Is it OK to walk into a Library and say hey..

                              "Ya mind if I use your paper and your ink and start copying all the books in this place?
                              OK great, go ahead and start with shelf "A-B" move all the people away from that area and get all the books for that section. I dont care if people want to read this shit I am copying it and archiving it"

                              Your going to get one pissed off librarian and the cops will be on your ass for copying books that do not belong to you.
                              your struggling... library owns books, authors own reproduction rights to the text (stories). Neither apply here. GFY does not own your post (thoughts, words etc..) and you are not copy righting them either if anything you are doing the opposite by displaying them to the general public.
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                              • Crypt
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 2225

                                #115
                                Originally posted by notjoe
                                thats what my search is up and running while theirs is down? try again troll
                                Troll? ok ;)

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                                • goBigtime
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 7761

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by notjoe
                                  thats what my search is up and running while theirs is down? try again troll

                                  Well... they are saying "You" * 100 Joe... not just you.

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                                  • notjoe
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2002
                                    • 5599

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by goBigtime
                                    Well... they are saying "You" * 100 Joe... not just you.
                                    I just dont want people to think it was me nor my program who caused any of these issues/problems...if anything i'd like to think that i've helped out by providing a "FREE" service to members so that they dont need to spider the board(s).

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                                    • seeric
                                      ..........
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 41917

                                      #118
                                      Sweet!

                                      my apologies for calling the admins "assweenies!"

                                      LMAO

                                      sorry JT! hehe.

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                                      • Cavello
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 213

                                        #119
                                        Juisy for mod! well maybe..
                                        donated for science and a pack of smokes.

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                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                          best designer on GFY
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 30307

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by will76
                                          your struggling... library owns books, authors own reproduction rights to the text (stories). Neither apply here. GFY does not own your post (thoughts, words etc..) and you are not copy righting them either if anything you are doing the opposite by displaying them to the general public.

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                                          • fireorange
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2005
                                            • 1648

                                            #121
                                            SearchTheBoards sucked, there were weeks were indexing stopped and he failed to sell it

                                            notjoe

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                                            • will76
                                              Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 18037

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Will76


                                              and you are not copy righting them either if anything you are doing the opposite by displaying them to the general public.

                                              if you think you make a post here and it is copyrighted then you are as dumb as everyone thinks you are. When someone PUBLISHES a book or magazine article or Associated press stories those are copyrighted. Also all of those things are sold to people, no one is purchasing anything here and Lensman does not own your post nor is he copyrighting it. People who post on public messageboards are not protected and they don't need your promission to copy your text and post it someone else. you really are clueless to this.
                                              Last edited by will76; 05-20-2005, 05:59 PM.
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                                              • notjoe
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2002
                                                • 5599

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by fireorange
                                                SearchTheBoards sucked, there were weeks were indexing stopped and he failed to sell it

                                                notjoe
                                                No one forced you to use it. As you notice dealing with 5 or 6 million posts is a challange for the crew of GFY admins...just imagine working with 12-14 million posts and having the ability to scale to hunreds of millions if not billions of posts.

                                                As for my "failed" attempt of selling it why dont you search for the thread...ohh thats right you cant ... I turned down 10k offers you moron
                                                Last edited by notjoe; 05-20-2005, 06:05 PM.

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                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                  best designer on GFY
                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 30307

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by will76
                                                  if you think you make a post here and it is copyrighted then you are as dumb as everyone thinks you are. When someone PUBLISHES a book or magazine article or Associated press stories those are copyrighted. Also all of those things are sold to people, no one is purchasing anything here and Lensman does not own your post nor is he copyrighting it. People who post on public messageboards are not protected and they don't need your promission to copy your text and post it someone else. you really are clueless to this.
                                                  When I type and express my words and thoughts they are my words and thoughts. Mine.
                                                  People buy ad space here.
                                                  Lens does own the post no. But he Keeps it under his roof err likes to or tries to. He knows the value of this think tank.

                                                  If ya know Copyright Law technically it does apply to the web medium to a degree. Even here.

                                                  Bottom line is. It's Lensmans house not yours, not mine and he can pick and choose whom or what will access this site.

                                                  I might not like it, you might not like it but it's his house.

                                                  Ya can bank on that.

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                                                  • Red Ezra
                                                    redezra.com
                                                    • May 2004
                                                    • 4678

                                                    #125
                                                    i like gfy - even without the search - never worked long enough to get used to it - either way still loyal to gfy - thanks lens

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                                                    • Cory W
                                                      Deeply shallow
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 9133

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by Big Ray
                                                      We will very soon. Things take time to implement. the same people that fixed the problem then are fixing the problem now.

                                                      I understand that search being down is impacting users worse than the perceived impact of an image verification system. The question we ask ourselves is the following....

                                                      "Do we want to use valuable resources to take a step backwards, to have to go back afterwards and fix the fix?"

                                                      The anwer we have made is no.
                                                      I love you Ray.

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                                                      • Serge Litehead
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 5190

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Big Ray
                                                        You make the assumption that some sort of block is wanted in the search area. You are assuming that someone is incapable of doing that.

                                                        Let me ask you this. If it were your site, would you want the functionality dictated to you by 1% of the people that use your site?

                                                        Why would Lensman put an image verification system in front of search that impacts 99% of the legitimate people that use search? I?m sure no one is going to to get upset about that.

                                                        The key to a successful GFY is to be accountable for the functionality and take care of the people that make site great. Users shouldn?t have to change the way they interact with the site. Apply your same logic to google.
                                                        This post is politically correct and also very contradicting.
                                                        Is it best to block the functionality to 100% of people? make a vote see what people want.. you rather block access to everyone while you looking for a solution than changing the way we interact with the site? doesn't make much sense.

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                                                        • Serge Litehead
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 5190

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by Big Ray
                                                          As per Google Search and GFY Search, isn't it kinda the same thing? Do you think google would lose market share if they put an image verification system on the front page of search? And required all users to use it before clicking on a "search"?

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                                                          • fireorange
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                            • 1648

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by notjoe
                                                            As for my "failed" attempt of selling it why dont you search for the thread...ohh thats right you cant ... I turned down 10k offers you moron
                                                            Good thing it didn't sell, it's worthless now

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                                                            • 12clicks
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 19816

                                                              #130
                                                              the spider story doesn't hold water.
                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                              • notjoe
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2002
                                                                • 5599

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by fireorange
                                                                Good thing it didn't sell, it's worthless now

                                                                Thats why i got an offer of 3k for just the domain name eh?

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                                                                • fireorange
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                  • 1648

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by notjoe
                                                                  Thats why i got an offer of 3k for just the domain name eh?
                                                                  Listen script kiddie, your time has not been wasted on STB, you can use all those skills to code a TGP hitbot now

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                                                                  • Spunky
                                                                    I need a beer
                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                    • 133978

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Understandable..we shall survive

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                                                                    • notjoe
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                      • 5599

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                      the spider story doesn't hold water.
                                                                      The only thing which could hold any water is people writing scripts to use the search function to check for new posts which their keyword(s) were mentioned in, which has absolutely nothing to do with me nor search the boards...Yet isnt that exactly the type of service i provide and who those people running their scripts would rather use instead of killing the board weekly?

                                                                      A SERVICE to generate alerts so that people dont need to keep hitting the GFY search function to generate their own alerts.. ohh the irony.. Currently there is 132 users monitoring 160+ different keyword alerts. Thats probably -20-50 people right there that arent running a script which uses the GFY search function...

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                                                                      • notjoe
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                        • 5599

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by fireorange
                                                                        Listen script kiddie, your time has not been wasted on STB, you can use all those skills to code a TGP hitbot now
                                                                        *yawn* you've grown boring my trollish friend

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                                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                          best designer on GFY
                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 30307

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                          the spider story doesn't hold water.
                                                                          It sure does...

                                                                          Water on water off.

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                                                                          • fireorange
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                            • 1648

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by notjoe
                                                                            *yawn* you've grown boring my trollish friend
                                                                            Give it up, why keep this thread alive longer?

                                                                            It's banned, end of fucking story, SearchTheBoards? Dead as an Arab Suicide Bomber. Now get back to gallery submitting or whatever the fuck you do

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                                                                            • SureFire
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 4398

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                              When I type and express my words and thoughts they are my words and thoughts. Mine.
                                                                              People buy ad space here.
                                                                              Lens does own the post no. But he Keeps it under his roof err likes to or tries to. He knows the value of this think tank.

                                                                              If ya know Copyright Law technically it does apply to the web medium to a degree. Even here.

                                                                              Bottom line is. It's Lensmans house not yours, not mine and he can pick and choose whom or what will access this site.

                                                                              I might not like it, you might not like it but it's his house.

                                                                              Ya can bank on that.
                                                                              Bank on what?

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                                                                              • Serge Litehead
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                • 5190

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by fireorange
                                                                                Give it up, why keep this thread alive longer?

                                                                                It's banned, end of fucking story, SearchTheBoards? Dead as an Arab Suicide Bomber. Now get back to gallery submitting or whatever the fuck you do
                                                                                I dont think he has a problem with STB being banned by GFY

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                                                                                • SureFire
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                  • 4398

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                  the spider story doesn't hold water.
                                                                                  Nor to me, care to explain?

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                                                                                  • azguy
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                    • 5167

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by SureFire
                                                                                    Bank on what?
                                                                                    AlienQ is just trying to secure a guaranteed unban from Lensman in case the situation presents itself again.

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                                                                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                      best designer on GFY
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 30307

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      The itsy bitsy spider

                                                                                      Crawled up the water spout

                                                                                      Down came the rain

                                                                                      And washed the spider out

                                                                                      Out came the sun

                                                                                      And dried up all the rain

                                                                                      And the itsy bitsy spider

                                                                                      Crawled up the spout again.

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                                                                                      • NaughtyRob
                                                                                        Two fresh affiliate progs
                                                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                                                        • 29602

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Thanks for the explaination although not needed.
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                                                                                        • josian
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 274

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Contact me Lens, I have a way to avoid that quick and easy.

                                                                                          Full videos and hundreds of pics of this big tits beauty available for sale.
                                                                                          Exclusive and semi-exclusive available.

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                                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                            best designer on GFY
                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                            • 30307

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by azguy
                                                                                            AlienQ is just trying to secure a guaranteed unban from Lensman in case the situation presents itself again.
                                                                                            LOL.
                                                                                            I am to valuable go full perma ban.
                                                                                            I am great content.
                                                                                            He knows it I know it everyone knows it.

                                                                                            I can gurantee I will be banned again.
                                                                                            Who knows when.
                                                                                            But it will happen.

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                                                                                            • notjoe
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 5599

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by holograph
                                                                                              I dont think he has a problem with STB being banned by GFY
                                                                                              Dont feed the trolls, they'll come back like wild animals

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                                                                                              • notjoe
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                • 5599

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                I can gurantee I will be banned again.
                                                                                                Who knows when.
                                                                                                But it will happen.

                                                                                                Not soon enough and when it does happen it wont be for long enough ;)

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                                                                                                • Theo
                                                                                                  HAL 9000
                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 34515

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  this board needs AlienQ as moderator
                                                                                                  and im serious on this.

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                                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                    best designer on GFY
                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                    • 30307

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by notjoe
                                                                                                    Not soon enough and when it does happen it wont be for long enough ;)
                                                                                                    Fix your sig and get with the program man.
                                                                                                    Dayum...
                                                                                                    Ya act like he shot your baby or somthing.

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                                                                                                    • notjoe
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                      • 5599

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                      Fix your sig and get with the program man.
                                                                                                      Dayum...
                                                                                                      Ya act like he shot your baby or somthing.
                                                                                                      Why dont you go take a walk beyond the israel border while screaming "I'm a jew I'm a jew"

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