BUSH ; Don't you fuckin touch my Iraqi oil assets !!!!!

Do you deny that Muslim theocracies are a threat to the Western world in general?

Maybe he is waitng for the UN officials and france to go to trial for stealing the oil before he opens it up for more of you greedy theives.

Could have been yours if you weren't to busy redistributing income through a horribly inefficient beauratic healthcare system instead of building a military to defend the world.

If your dead set on spamming political stuff on adult message boards, shouldn't you spam the trials that are going on as we speak:

I'm willing to bet that you havn't told anyone today that the Clintons are on trial for campaign fraud.



Kennedy Kin Testifies in Clinton Case
Friday, May 20, 2005
Sen. Clinton Tops Dem Contenders for '08
LOS ANGELES ? A brother-in-law of Sen. Edward Kennedy testified in federal court Thursday against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (search) former national finance director, who is accused of lying to regulators about the cost of a lavish Hollywood fundraiser.

Raymond Reggie (search), a prominent political consultant whose sister is married to Kennedy, told jurors that David Rosen (search) said before the gala that event producers were charging $500,000 ? $100,000 more than was reported as the overall cost.

Reggie helped solicit contributions for the glitzy August 2000 dinner and concert that attracted celebrities including Cher, Diana Ross and Muhammad Ali. He said Rosen told him afterward that "the last-minute costs crushed him."

Prosecutors say Rosen, panicked over mounting expenses, intentionally caused forms to be filed with the Federal Election Commission that underreported "in-kind" contributions used to pay for the event by about $800,000.

Rosen's attorney Paul Sandler has said the costs were hidden from Rosen by event organizers, and emphasized Thursday that the Clinton campaign didn't benefit from the underreporting.

Sandler attacked Reggie's credibility, noting that he has pleaded guilty to unrelated bank fraud charges in Louisiana and had been charged in 2002 with impersonating a police officer. The latter charges were dismissed.

You are such a dipshit.

more monkey shit ( not pig shit ).....

US tycoon in oil-for-food scandal

No evidence ... just like the stocpile of WMD....

I think FunForOne is also involved, tough I have no evidence....


Meanwhile, there is evidence about Bush ....

What I don't understand is how we have the right to control THEIR oil. Didn't they elect a new government? Shouldn't THEY be in control of the oil?

You really need to buy yourself a clue...lol

bingo

Of course not! Stop being unamerican.

Why would an oil family like BUSH allow them to control the oil. he knows what os best for them.

How come I never see you post about Canadian Politicians acting like crooks? Do you think corruption is unique to US politics? Wouldn't canadian politics be ultimately more relevant to you than posting about the US constantly?

The Canadian Politicians acting like crooks doesn't affect the rest of the world, as opposed to Bush / US government...

Matt

Thanks for answering, since I am on my way out to see "Crash"...

As you said, our Canadian gov fucked us Canadians and/or Quebecers with our money ...


To the FunForOne ( sorry your 4000 posts in the pussycash contest didn't pay off ) :

Like I don't care f Bush cancels the social security, or eliminates taxes for the rich, strenghten the patriot act .... ... It has no impact outside the US , it is just fucking you guys up....

But when you take over a country, like Hitler did with Poland, without reasons, that impacts the whole universe, of which the US is just the trailer park....

Let me help your dumbass with your logic. I'll give you some cliff notes for your arguement.


1) Bush is just a really dumb guy being controlled by really smart guys
2) The really smart guys Kept Bush President and coverup all criminal activity on a world stage.
3) The democratic party and Canada (I guess) are the people with the most intelligence. These are the people that put the country above any amount of money.
4) The intellectual elite of the US and the world have raised and given hundreds of millions of dollars to get Bush out of the White House by any means necessary.

5) Not one criminal charge in all the years he has been president.


Would you think if the "smart guys" keeping Bush President were that much smarter than the intellectual liberals with the hundreds of millions of dollars, then maybe the "smart guys" should be running the country.

Oh my. FunForOne brought up logic.

You are 100% correct. The United States is the only place on earth where one political party will argue in favor of a dictator who wore and often used his pistol during cabinet meetings for the sole purpose of taking tax cuts away from the business owners.

If logic was abundant around here, these threads wouldn't get started and I would be bored most of the day.

He's been caught going AWOL in a time of war, he dumped Harken stock in a bit of obvious insider trading, he's violated the Geneva Convention at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, he lied to the country in ever detail concerning Iraq and got a bunch of us and them killed.

Why hasn't he ever been nailed? I dunno. None of this is as sexy as a blowjob in the oval office I guess. And it doesn't really matter. There's a ton of information publically available about his shady dealings, even more out there about his business and scholarly ineptitude. Doesn't matter. People like you will always vote for him, and apparently there's more of you in this country than there are of me.

So go ahead, vote us into a police state. Make my country an international criminal enterprise. Burn my books. I hope you end up getting exactly what you vote for.

But not one single thread of evidence to even bring a charge. Seems like the keyboard warriors make alot of assumptions in their prosecutions.

I'm sure George Sorros was going to pursue the criminal acts with his money, but thought it wasn't "sexy" enough. Instead, he thought he would give who knows how many millions to the people that make more money from the dense keyboard warriors.

Sometimes you just need to use common sense.

The irony is that you call people sheep and you are the people who are getting used the most by the people with the money.

Good Old-money liberal value: Give them just enough to keep them from thinking for themselves.

Thats funny. You guys are funny.

Uh maybe you missed the news earlier this week. It turns out most of the oil that was stolen was stolen mostly by U.S. companies and not the French. The White House not only knew about it, but also apparently brokered some of the deals to get around the U.S. sanctions.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/thenat...n/12544/nc:742

Even Fox News sheepishly admitted it

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,156803,00.html


I am curious now that you know it wasn?t the evil French or UN behind it are you going to demand a trial for Bush and members of his administration that did this?

"Here's the story as generally agreed upon: In January 1968, with the Vietnam war in full swing, Bush was due to graduate from Yale. Knowing he'd soon be eligible for the draft, he took an air force officers' test hoping to secure a billet with the Texas Air National Guard, which would allow him to do his military service at home. Bush didn't do particularly well on the test--on the pilot aptitude section, he scored in the 25th percentile, the lowest possible passing grade. But Bush's father, George H.W., was then a U.S. congressman from Houston, and strings were pulled. The younger Bush vaulted to the head of a long waiting list--a year and a half long, by some estimates--and in May of '68 he was inducted into the guard.

By all accounts Bush was an excellent pilot, but apparently his enthusiasm cooled. In 1972, four years into his six-year guard commitment, he was asked to work for the campaign of Bush family friend Winton Blount, who was running for the U.S. Senate in Alabama. In May Bush requested a transfer to an Alabama Air National Guard unit with no planes and minimal duties. Bush's immediate superiors approved the transfer, but higher-ups said no. The matter was delayed for months. In August Bush missed his annual flight physical and was grounded. (Some have speculated that he was worried about failing a drug test--the Pentagon had instituted random screening in April.) In September he was ordered to report to a different unit of the Alabama guard, the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Montgomery. Bush says he did so, but his nominal superiors say they never saw the guy, there's no documentation he ever showed up, and not one of the six or seven hundred soldiers then in the unit has stepped forward to corroborate Bush's story.

After the November election Bush returned to Texas, but apparently didn't notify his old Texas guard unit for quite a while, if ever. The Boston Globe initially reported that he started putting in some serious duty time in May, June, and July of 1973 to make up for what he'd missed. But according to a piece in the New Republic, there's no evidence Bush did even that. Whatever the case, even though his superiors knew he'd blown off his duties, they never disciplined him. (No one's ever been shot at dawn for missing a weekend guard drill, but policy at the time was to put shirkers on active duty.) Indeed, when Bush decided to go to business school at Harvard in the fall of 1973, he requested and got an honorable discharge--eight months before his service was scheduled to end."

That's from straightdope.com. He was awol. He's an anti-intellectual spoiled rich boy who fucked up everything that was ever handed to him and still became President of my country thanks to morons like you.

You, all rednecks and all religious freaks should be deported. You're un-American.

Err.. uhh... he also said (to gain war support) that the Irag war would be paid for with their own oil..
Gee.. wonder where the billions of our tax dollars are going over there..

I'd be more curious to know if you did a google for the name David Chalmers?

Find out which political party he supports. Find out the year in which he brokered deals and then google the president in the white house during that year.

Indicted Texas oilman runs a company that has often been steeped in controversy

By TOM FOWLER and JOHN ROPER
Houston Chronicle
April 14, 2005

Oil trading is by nature a secretive business, but David Bay Chalmers Jr. has managed to keep his secrets better than most. Until now.

On Thursday prosecutors in New York unsealed an indictment against Chalmers, his company BayOil, and two of his employees, Ludmil Dionissiev of Houston and John Irving of London, saying they paid kickbacks to the former Iraqi regime.

While neither the company nor the men have been charged criminally before, and their attorneys say these charges do not have merit, for years turmoil has circled BayOil and Chalmers.

Colleagues of Chalmers, who asked not to be identified for fear of retribution, said when subpoenas started rolling in from congressional committees and investigators last fall after a CIA report raised questions about the U.N. Oil for Food program, that it was nothing new.

"You'd think he was a poor businessman, but he's smart like a fox," said one colleague. "Maybe devious is the right word."

Craftiness would seem to be a necessary trait given the dicey markets Chalmers and BayOil have played in over the years.

The company doesn't own or operate oil wells, oil tankers or oil refineries, but rather serves as a middleman, buying oil from producers, contracting with tanker owners to ship it and lining up buyers on the other end to refine it.

First to use U.N. program
BayOil was the first company to buy oil through the Oil for Food program in 1996. That effort proved ill-fated, however, as the tanker that BayOil hired to carry the crude to the United States developed engine problems. The oil was eventually off-loaded in South Africa to another buyer. Lawsuits ensued.

Chalmers, 51, was born in Oklahoma City and attended the University of Denver, where he received a bachelor's degree in economics and a minor in political science in 1978.

An avid tennis player âhahaha128;hahaha148; his company co-sponsored the River Oaks Country Club Tennis Tournament earlier this month âhahaha128;hahaha148; he has seen his share of wealth. Properties in River Oaks, a home in Aspen, Colo., an Aston Martin, two Range Rovers and hundreds of thousands of dollars in artwork were among assets listed in records from his 1997 divorce.

Chalmers is a second generation oilman, following in the footsteps of his father, David Bay Chalmers, 80. Chalmers Sr. had his own run in with the law when in 1980 he and former Coastal Corp. Chairman Oscar Wyatt pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of manipulating oil prices.

Wyatt's name has also come up in reports about the Oil for Food program investigations.

Earlier this year Chalmers Jr. and Wyatt purchased a small Lake Charles, La., refinery.

A number of Chalmers' associates have also had brushes with trouble in the past.

He paid some of the legal fees for Roy William Harris, the former CEO of a Connecticut-based oil trading firm who was convicted in 1992 of fraud. BayOil was a counterparty in some transactions.

Sale of cluster bombs

Chalmers is also alleged to have ties to Chilean-Italian businessman Augusto Giangrandi, who in 1995 testified in a federal court in Miami that he arranged for the illegal sale of more than $200 million of cluster bombs and other equipment to the Iraqi government on behalf of arms dealer Carlos Cardoen.

Sources close to the case say it appeared Chalmers helped Giangrandi turn the Iraqis' method of payment âhahaha128;hahaha148; U.N. Oil for Food vouchers âhahaha128;hahaha148; into money by selling the oil to end users.

Chalmers was never accused of wrongdoing in connection with the case.

Dionissiev, 58, is a Bulgarian citizen who met Chalmers while working for what was once the Bulgarian national oil firm. He later went to work for BayOil and even operated his own trading business out of that firm's offices in the Rice Lofts in downtown Houston.

Colleagues describe Dionissiev as a tragic figure, noting he and his wife, Svetla, lost their only son, Alexandre, in a car crash in 1996 in Washington, D.C. According to news reports, Alexandre, 22, was a senior at American University when the accident occurred.

Offered house as collateral

During a hearing before Magistrate Calvin Botley on Thursday, Dionissiev offered to put his house up as collateral since he could not raise the necessary bond. Harris County property records show he owns a home in the Tanglewood neighborhood appraised at nearly $800,000.

Dionissiev's home, along with Chalmers' home on Kingston Street in Houston and a lot that Chalmers owns on Del Monte, are subject to forfeiture should the government be unable to recover more than $100 million in proceeds the men allegedly gained from their dealings.