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  • Nicky
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    • Mar 2003
    • 30071

    #101
    100 sell outs

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    • Nicky
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Mar 2003
      • 30071

      #102
      where is Mike/webair in this thread??

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      • Taboo
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        • Jul 2004
        • 3700

        #103
        Originally posted by slavdogg
        >> totally opposite
        Thats my exact point, however i dont think anything is opposite here.
        If the domain stays in its present form or if WebAir starts selling VOIP or computer parts or dial up service or gay midgets there are no Unfair biz practices here or any form of common law TM infringement. All these isssues will arise however once webair.com is linked from nationalnet.com

        >> they could get on the supplemental registry and then move it over to the principal registry.
        I dont think they would quality for a supplemental registry, they would go str8 to the principal registry.

        2 Companies with an indentical name CAN conexist as long as they're both not selling the same product. Simple as that IMO

        just my

        I see the point you are trying to make... and I know where you stand when it comes to UDRP but webair didn't think this through... if they were trying to be sly they should have made a stealth-play for the domain and created a new ID at Afternic. they had plenty of time to do that if you look at the offer history:
        http://www.afternic.com/bidhist.php?id=523916

        nationalnet.com Offer History

        Amount Time Username Status Expires

        5,000.00 04/27/2005 05:13 pm EDT webair Accepted 05/04/2005 05:13 pm EDT
        1,200.00 04/20/2005 04:31 pm EDT webair Expired 04/27/2005 04:31 pm EDT
        A week passes by between their bids and they don't create a new ID to avoid all this mess? WTF were they thinking? They didn't even attempt to play it smart. Perhaps they were looking at this from another angle... maybe they wanted the world to know that they bought the domain.

        And most importantly Slav, even if webair finds someway to keep the domain, they will feel the backlash one way or another... the longer they keep it, the worse they look in potential/current customers eyes. I for one would never use their services now, especially for registering domains... perhaps that's just me or maybe I'm the only one that's publically saying it... how many others are out there thinking this was ethically-underhanded and will switch away from webair in disgust?

        Either way, it will be very interesting to see how this plays out... so pass the popcorn.



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        • pradaboy
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          • Dec 2003
          • 12931

          #104
          Originally posted by Nicky
          where is Mike/webair in this thread??
          he isn't... probably still figuring out what he can do to keep the damage minimal
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          • Lee
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            • Aug 2002
            • 2977

            #105
            Must be about time for a Natnet promo for existing webair clients ;)

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            • European Lee
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              • Dec 2002
              • 7133

              #106
              It has to be said that we're real happy with how the transition from Webair > NatNet is being handled so far by NatNets tech guys

              Regards,

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              • Gator
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                • Feb 2002
                • 1119

                #107
                Originally posted by slavdogg
                from where i'm sitting and no Trademark for NationalNet
                there are a lot of things WebAir can do with the domain name and not have a UDRP dispute.
                well pretty much everything under the sun except selling webhosting in adult industry.
                Yeah, but they'd be doing it just to be pricks and screw Tony. Stupid move IMO.

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                • pradaboy
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                  • Dec 2003
                  • 12931

                  #108
                  Originally posted by European Lee
                  It has to be said that we're real happy with how the transition from Webair > NatNet is being handled so far by NatNets tech guys

                  Regards,

                  Lee
                  I'd be allover NN too if I had the BW usage for it... my business isn't about BW anymore so I spread my stuff over different virtual accounts.

                  If I ever go dedicated again it will be with NN or ISPrime.
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                  • kmanrox
                    aka K-Man
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 29295

                    #109
                    hehe it's obvious that Lee gets discounted hosting from Natnet, aint it?

                    the ONE thread that there's a chance to finally find a fault with the #1 host, undisputed on the adult web, of course you're going to take advantage.. i dont fault you, but i do want to make certain everyone knows you have a hidden agenda.
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                    • European Lee
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                      • Dec 2002
                      • 7133

                      #110
                      Originally posted by Hedonistic
                      hehe it's obvious that Lee gets discounted hosting from Natnet, aint it?

                      the ONE thread that there's a chance to finally find a fault with the #1 host, undisputed on the adult web, of course you're going to take advantage.. i dont fault you, but i do want to make certain everyone knows you have a hidden agenda.
                      We've hosted with Net Net for 2 years happily.

                      We've hosted at Webair for 5 years happily.

                      Mike was obviously snorting coke last night when he made those threats to Gary and myself, we dont take threats to likely so re-evaluated our business decision as to which companies we spend money on hosting with.

                      Nat Net is costing us more than we had (at a discounted rate) at Webair, sometimes, when the owner of a company acts like a complete crack head, things must be acted upon.

                      If Mike wanted to keep our business, he shouldnt have given us a veiled ultimatum.

                      SweetT IS a standup guy who we have known much longer than Mike, we simply stated this on a public forum and Mikes (apparent) drug enduced state got the better of him, his loss, not mine.

                      There is nothing more to it than that.

                      We'd rather host with a stable company who's owner isnt prone to mood swings comparable to that of a junkie.

                      Regards,

                      Lee
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                      • pradaboy
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                        • Dec 2003
                        • 12931

                        #111
                        Originally posted by Hedonistic
                        hehe it's obvious that Lee gets discounted hosting from Natnet, aint it?

                        the ONE thread that there's a chance to finally find a fault with the #1 host, undisputed on the adult web, of course you're going to take advantage.. i dont fault you, but i do want to make certain everyone knows you have a hidden agenda.
                        common Kman, do you believe any of the shit you're spouting off here?

                        first of all on what fact do you make your declaration that webair is the #1 host in adult? Second of all "to finally find a fault"... dude seriously, the countless webair sucks and webair = down threads do not weigh up to the one or two "what happened to NN" threads or what about the *ZERO* threads about ISPrime? Webair #1 my ass. Mike talked me into reviewing WA and I'm doing so, but that doesn't mean you can make baseless and false posts
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                        • European Lee
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                          • Dec 2002
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                          #112
                          Originally posted by pradaboy
                          common Kman, do you believe any of the shit you're spouting off here?
                          You know, i would like to think he is doing this as a satisfied customer of theirs and, if thats the case then fine i hae no problems with that whatsoever, we supported Webair when we were with them too.

                          Ill not be supporting them anymore, as far as i am concerned right now, as a host, as friends and as business collegues, they are dead to me.

                          Regards,

                          Lee
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                          • Rui
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                            • Dec 2001
                            • 9533

                            #113
                            Webair #1 Adult Host = joke of the year...

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                            • sextoyking
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                              • Dec 2001
                              • 6034

                              #114
                              There is only '1' WORD to describe Tony - That word is:

                              CLASS


                              Plain and simple - take that to the bank and cash it...

                              Forget the best host, etc, etc, etc.

                              Sweet T is classy and Hugely respected in our industry..

                              Enough said, there can be no more to say....
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                              • Brad Mitchell
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                                • Nov 2001
                                • 9813

                                #115
                                I feel like such a chump.

                                I was looking for new domain names not too long ago and saw that NationalNet.com was for sale. I figured it was just some prick speculator that owned it and out of principle Tony wasn't interested because he didn't need to be. Didn't cross my mind they might have been unaware of the domain's status.

                                In retrospect, I'm thinking I should have bought it as a gift or at least taken a few minutes to call them and let them know it was for sale. I think NatNet's shown me at least that much hospitality over the last few years.. and I'm a competitor. Now that's class!

                                Tony, Matt, Kathi and Andrew are some of the finest people I've ever had the pleasure of spending time with in the industry. I don't think there is a single legitimate reason why Webair purchased the domain. That being said, I would look forward to seeing them trying to use it in commerce. Tony's lawyers would eat this guy for breakfast, out of principle.

                                If nothing else, karma has it's own special way of dealing with bad people.

                                lol

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                                • European Lee
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                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 7133

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                  I feel like such a chump.
                                  Well you at the perfect place to find one

                                  Oh, that isnt what you meant, my bad

                                  Regards,

                                  Lee
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                                  • Peaches
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                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 13933

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by sextoyking
                                    There is only '1' WORD to describe Tony - That word is:

                                    CLASS


                                    Plain and simple - take that to the bank and cash it...

                                    Forget the best host, etc, etc, etc.

                                    Sweet T is classy and Hugely respected in our industry..

                                    Enough said, there can be no more to say....
                                    Ditto, ditto and ditto!!

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                                    • European Lee
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                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 7133

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Peaches
                                      Ditto, ditto and ditto!!
                                      What Peaches said

                                      Regards,

                                      Lee
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                                      • Tat2Jr
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                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 4882

                                        #119
                                        I've been with National Net for so long that when i give my account number to whoever's on the phone they usually will comment on how low it is. Top notch from day one. Through good times and bad - they were the solid constent. I have virtual accounts spread out for class c's, but for the stuff that matters it's National Net.
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                                        • Steen2
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                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 7662

                                          #120
                                          National Net needs to obtain the domain from Webair as it looks like trademark infringement.
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                                          • simple simon
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                                            • Jan 2005
                                            • 854

                                            #121
                                            webair the #1 undisputed host in adult? thats some funny shit right there, they cant hold a fucking candle to the likes of ISPrime or NatNet.
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                                            • EviLGuY
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Apr 2003
                                              • 12745

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Nicky
                                              where is Mike/webair in this thread??
                                              He is mysteriously absent. I'm not sure what they were thinking.. not a very classy move, imho.

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                                              • European Lee
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                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 7133

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by EviLGuY
                                                He is mysteriously absent. I'm not sure what they were thinking.. not a very classy move, imho.
                                                Theres nothing mysterious about it IMHO.

                                                He knows he fucked up big time, in more ways than one, theres nothing he can really do to change that so there is no point in him replying

                                                Regards,

                                                Lee
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                                                • basschick
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                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 2540

                                                  #124
                                                  i can't believe they'd be this stupid - we all know ya can't buy a domain with an existing business' name and expect to run the same kind of business. at least, not for long...

                                                  what were they thinking?!??!??!?!
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                                                  • Taboo
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                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 3700

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by European Lee
                                                    Theres nothing mysterious about it IMHO.

                                                    He knows he fucked up big time, in more ways than one, theres nothing he can really do to change that so there is no point in him replying

                                                    Regards,

                                                    Lee


                                                    Perhaps they're trying to figure out how to flip this domain to someone else... I'd be real suspect if WebAir came to me trying to flip NationalNet.com - I'd wonder why the hell they owned it and what was compelling them to sell it so fast... I wouldn't want to be part of any potential lawsuits...

                                                    ...so basically webair is screwed. the damage is done, even if WebAir gets rid of the domain and NN never gets it's hands on it... we all see how WebAir conducts business and this thread lives on forever.

                                                    Perhaps, an apology from Webair would smooth things out or blaming some intern for buying the name without management approval... hard to believe, but better than remaining silent (which is probably what their lawyers are advising them to do after yelling at them for such a stupid move)

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                                                    • pradaboy
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                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                      • 12931

                                                      #126
                                                      this deserves a bump
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                                                      • European Lee
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                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 7133

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by pradaboy
                                                        this deserves a bump


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                                                        • European Lee
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                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 7133

                                                          #128
                                                          Here's another bump for Webscum.

                                                          Regards,

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                                                          • makefuckingmoney
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                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 3277

                                                            #129
                                                            If I had seen nationalnet.com for sale anywhere..I would have just purchased the domain and given it to tony as a gift.

                                                            National net has sponsored more industry events than probably any other company I can think of..CCbill and National Net probably take care of more webmasters at conventions than the rest of the companies combined.

                                                            I really cant believe this thread even exists.. its mind boggling.

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                                                            • Theo
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                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 34515

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by fris
                                                              http://www.passwordsearch.org/ hosted by national-net.com


                                                              i can give you more

                                                              webair hosted and still hosts the largest traffic hijacking that took place in industry

                                                              isearch.com

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                                                              • pxxx
                                                                First African GFY Member
                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 12114

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                Are your referring to the buyout National Net made of another webhosting company last year? If that is what you're talking about, I call that smart business and retention...

                                                                It's alot easier sometime to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission ;)

                                                                DH
                                                                Sometimes DH? Shit, it is alot easier EVERYtime to ask for forgiveness than permission. This is in a good way too. When you ask for permission, people immediately think you owe them something.

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                                                                • pradaboy
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                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 12931

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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                                                                  • gideongallery
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                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                    • 7082

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by SweetT
                                                                    Hey Guys....

                                                                    I think this is hilarious...but so that there are no misunderstandings, we checked on buying the nationalnet.com domain years and years ago but it was not for sale and it was used by a Canadian guy to talk about his Marching Band so it was not a big deal. If I find that a webhost has bought it and is linking it to a web hosting site well that is a whole different issue that I guess I would need to discuss with my Intellectual Property Attorney's.

                                                                    But...needless to say we are not going anywhere and in fact we have some very cool announcements coming up when we see everyone is Montreal!!!


                                                                    --T
                                                                    can't seem to find a national net trademark

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                                                                    • CreepyMusic
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                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                      • 8

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Any news on this?

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                                                                      • William-Xfactor
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                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 299

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Why do people find this surprising webair host pibcash after all

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                                                                        • Donny
                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 13754

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Does Nat Net have this domain yet, or are the webair peeps still being morons?

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                                                                          • SweetT
                                                                            Shank-A-Potamus
                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                            • 1756

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                            Does Nat Net have this domain yet, or are the webair peeps still being morons?
                                                                            Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

                                                                            Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.


                                                                            --T

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                                                                            • Rick Latona
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                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 6037

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by SweetT
                                                                              Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

                                                                              Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.


                                                                              --T
                                                                              That's good news, Tony.
                                                                              Regards,

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                                                                              • CDSmith
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                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                • 51460

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by SweetT
                                                                                Hey Guys....

                                                                                I think this is hilarious...but so that there are no misunderstandings, we checked on buying the nationalnet.com domain years and years ago but it was not for sale and it was used by a Canadian guy to talk about his Marching Band so it was not a big deal. If I find that a webhost has bought it and is linking it to a web hosting site well that is a whole different issue that I guess I would need to discuss with my Intellectual Property Attorney's.

                                                                                But...needless to say we are not going anywhere and in fact we have some very cool announcements coming up when we see everyone is Montreal!!!


                                                                                --T
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                                                                                • Odie
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                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                  • 7040

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by SweetT
                                                                                  Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

                                                                                  Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.


                                                                                  --T
                                                                                  yayayayay!!!!!!! I'm so happy to hear!! glad that everything is working itself out! There's no need to make things more complicated than they already are or need to be..
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                                                                                  • WiredGuy
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                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 34516

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by SweetT
                                                                                    Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

                                                                                    Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.


                                                                                    --T
                                                                                    Congrats on a resolution Tony
                                                                                    Celebrate with some cake, hehe.
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                                                                                    • DomBuyer
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                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                      • 2595

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by SweetT
                                                                                      Actually Mike and I had a nice conversation this week and it looks like things are going to work out very nicely. Now I know why so many people on this board think so highly of him.

                                                                                      Normally once a domain transfer's you have to wait 60 days to transfer it again so it may take a few weeks before you hear a resolution, but I am confident that it will all be worked out and that everyone will be smiling and one big happy family.


                                                                                      --T
                                                                                      Good news

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                                                                                      • CDSmith
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                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                        • 51460

                                                                                        #143
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