Should IP addresses be PROPERTY or not?

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  • SplitInfinity
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 3047
    #1

    Should IP addresses be PROPERTY or not?

    I am looking for anyone who has input on possibly the largest case
    regarding internet numbering ever. This lawsuit may change the way
    IP's are governed and adminstered.

    For those interested, you may read this lawsuit here:
    http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=1

    I'm not so sure IP's should be property, but im also not sure of how they are being managed globally right now.
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089
      #2
      Originally posted by SplitInfinity
      I am looking for anyone who has input on possibly the largest case
      regarding internet numbering ever. This lawsuit may change the way
      IP's are governed and adminstered.

      For those interested, you may read this lawsuit here:
      http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=1

      I'm not so sure IP's should be property, but im also not sure of how they are being managed globally right now.

      your link sucks

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        • squishypimp
          PostMaster General
          • Aug 2006
          • 10781
          #3
          bump for ARIN Reg's and their bastard ways.

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            • GrouchyAdmin
              Now choke yourself!
              • Apr 2006
              • 12085
              #4
              You have your own ASN, and a bad link. Obviously you have portable netblocks, and are just trying to stir up shit in a vapid attempt to do another plug for your shitty service.

              But, no, no, nonportable netblocks aren't property, and portable ones are.

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                • squishypimp
                  PostMaster General
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 10781
                  #5
                  Originally posted by toonpornblog
                  You have your own ASN, and a bad link. Obviously you have portable netblocks, and are just trying to stir up shit in a vapid attempt to do another plug for your shitty service.
                  lol

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                    • Daruma
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 3494
                      #6
                      if they are property maybe you can sell them off to pay the bill for your next award ??

                      RIP TD

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                        • chaze
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 9774
                          #7
                          The link doesn't work.
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                            • SplitInfinity
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 3047
                              #8
                              Stir up shit?


                              UH, dork.

                              Anyways, this link may work better:
                              http://www.internetgovernance.org/pd...20vs%20arin%22

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                                • SplitInfinity
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 3047
                                  #9
                                  That is a big case people.... talk shit about me if you like, but the point I bring up is large. If this lawsuit succeeds it could change the way everything is on the net with IP's.

                                  "But, no, no, nonportable netblocks aren't property, and portable ones are."
                                  Uh, portable ones ARE NOT Property according to ARIN and the way it "is".

                                  Read the filing, then come back when you are done talking shit and post your honest opinion of this. It's sorta scary how things "are".

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                                    • TheJimmy
                                      ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 10747
                                      #10
                                      I'd think IPs should be 'property' as much as domains. It's basically a leased item. If you stop renewing the lease someone can auction or pick it up if you're not using it or you haven't sold or passed it along to another entity.

                                      Thanks for the link though, I'll definitely take a read. I admit to being pretty clueless on the actual details behind IPs other than I like lots of them

                                      and IPv6 is not nearly as cool as the old skool numbers...
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                                        • SplitInfinity
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 3047
                                          #11
                                          The thing I dont like is how they force you to disclose VERY sensitive information just to obtain IP addresses. Like for example, they want your customer lists??? thats FUCKED up for them to ask for that. I have heard of lots of people having to do that.

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                                            • TheJimmy
                                              ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 10747
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                              The thing I dont like is how they force you to disclose VERY sensitive information just to obtain IP addresses. Like for example, they want your customer lists??? thats FUCKED up for them to ask for that. I have heard of lots of people having to do that.
                                              I wonder how the canadian hosts handle that, I hear Canada has some VERY strict privacy laws.
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                                                • SplitNinja
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                  • 98
                                                  #13
                                                  I dont know about Canada, but lacnic (we have a datacenter in latin america for offshore hosting) was very strict as well (finally, through a long process, we have got what we wanted) but they have many, many strict laws regarding ip addresses and property.
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                                                    • GrouchyAdmin
                                                      Now choke yourself!
                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                      • 12085
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                                      Uh, portable ones ARE NOT Property according to ARIN and the way it "is".

                                                      Read the filing, then come back when you are done talking shit and post your honest opinion of this. It's sorta scary how things "are".
                                                      It's never going to happen. Remember, they were trying to rid the world of ARIN, only to fall back upon it. The only thing this would do is make it so impossible that any asshole with a /32 gets/has to have it routed because it's 'personal'. That will never, ever, ever happen. Never.

                                                      Yeah, I attacked you this time; I was waiting for your 'But we'll fight this, with our 2509, until the end of time' as you cram a fufme into an orifice while listening to Rock You Like a Hurricane. My bad, this time.
                                                      Last edited by GrouchyAdmin; 09-19-2006, 04:17 PM.

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                                                        • kacy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 877
                                                          #15
                                                          We did not have to show our customers information, only that the IP's were being used by different customers. Yea, they do want alot of information, but I can see why with all the scammers on the net and fraud that goes on.
                                                          ~Kacy

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                                                            • SplitInfinity
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 3047
                                                              #16
                                                              "Yeah, I attacked you this time; I was waiting for your 'But we'll fight this, with our 2509, until the end of time' as you cram a fufme into an orifice while listening to Rock You Like a Hurricane. My bad, this time."


                                                              VERY Respectable. :-)

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