Index of/ 9-11-01

Nice find. Thanks.

very sad vids thanks for the share

those vids makes me realize life is uncertain....

thanks for this, I almost forgot how much of a tragedy it really was, thats kinda sad.

Man almost 4 years later.. crazy shit

Watching some of them now...

anybody know if there is a dvd of the days events... id really like something that starts with the breaking news and just has the coverage in real time of the what happened... more of an archive of the news reports etc without any additional commentary... anybody heard of something like this?

it newer really happend - it all a coverup

I want to buy somethin' like that too.
Because downloading all these crappy quality videos is just loss of time.

My God, we were all SO different before...

I'd forgotten.






I hope we may recover some of what's been lost.


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One view of many....

Here is a moving 1st person account written by a close friend, who got so freaked out, he picked up & moved his family from NJ to Fiji.

One View of Many

You might look into a documentary that was aired on ShowTime.. Was done by two brothers who just happened to be doing a documentary on New York Fire Squad number 1.

Just so happens 9-11-01 was going to be the last day they were filming, then all hell broke lose.. These guys got tons of footage, they were inside the buildings with the fire and rescue guys.. Was a great documentary on what happened..They were the guys that filmed the very first plane hitting the building.. So when you see the only footage of the first hit, it was taken by these two brothers.

I can't for the life of me remember the name of it as I only happened to catch it on Show time by accident and I've never seen it air since.

btw that site is 404 for me

Yeah. I saw that movie. Got it on DVD.
Scary...

Here it is, google is actually useful for more than just making money..

http://www.screenselect.co.uk/visito...oduct_id=10003

here it is on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...34552?v=glance

In the months following 9-11, there were tons of middle-eastern & asian vendors set up at the Ground Zero site, actually selling photobooks & DVDs of the days events, as well as, bootleg NYPD/NYFD hats & shirts. I personally thought that it was really fucked up that that was happening there.

I guess the city did too, as the only thing that is there now is a hole, a fence, a few billboards, and a freaking huge new/rebuilt subway station. When you take certain NYC subway trains, it is really erie as you come out from underground, and right into the hole, then into the station.

yeah saw the french filmmakers one.. it was quite good...

people just exploiting the event sucks... but also Im not interested in some Michael Moore 'documentary'... just something that recaptures how it unfolded without all the political bias either way,... the actual GFY thread with speculation as to what happened etc is quite interesting reading...

I saw that one too... great documentary.

From the prospective of someone who saw the whole thing first hand from 2 blocks south of it, It was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen.

When my wife, 6 month old child and I got to move back into our loft 3 months later, they were in front of our building just beyond the police fence. We had to show our id's just to get in and out of our building, the pile of rubble was still smoldering, and these fuckers were selling photo albums with called "Day of Terror"

I have to say I lost all hope in humanity.

Even more disgusting is the fact that they had to move the photo's they had put up on the fence surrounding the wtc site explaining how it was built and such, up so no one could reach them. This is because people were signing there names and putting shit like I was here on them. You couldn't even see the fucking photo's any more.

Not sure how many photo albums I'm in, because every time I came out of my building the tourists would start snapping pics of me like I was some sort of zoo animal.

I think they should have a video of the people jumping and the buildings falling running on a loop at the site. Maybe that way people would treat it with the reverence it should have. Would you scrawl "I was here" at the pearl harbor memorial.

Your FRIEND??!!

Wow, that is amazing. I lived in NY all my life until '98 and worked in Tower #2 for 4 years, and I've never even met anyone who was close when it happened. Maybe I should get back there more -- only been back once since it happened.

Anyway, your friend is a great journalist.

It saddens me to realize it's probably the extraordinary mind and spirit trauma he had just suffered that gave his writing that "unaffected" voice -- it never once betrays any subjectivity. But that's probably the reason. Thanks very, very much for sharing this. Ive always felt kinda, I dunno -- bad -- that I was living in California when it happened. When I found out it was like noon in NY. It made me realize that TV's are only the tiniest, most useless little windows when it comes to any reality of value. It's not just the size of the screen that destroys access to the truth of things, it's also the fact that TV operates in its own "time" -- flickers and edits.

So when I went back to NY for the first time after 9/11, in Summer '04, I felt like a person might feel who walked into a room where a really sad story or a funny joke had just been told -- disconnected. Since long before I made the trip back in '04, I always thought in the back of my head that I was going to "measure" myself when I got to NY -- measure the present me against the man I remembered having been THERE. This way I might get a better handle on the effects of California on me. Returning to NY was supposed to give me a more original origin, that I might better assess the distance traveled. But it was impossible to make the comparison, when I got there. I had lost the thread completely. New York was different. I was different. But the worst part, and it was quite eery for me to discover it while being there, was that we had lost all our common history. It didn't feel like City and man had simply grown apart. It felt like we had never been together in the first place.

For not being there when it happened, 9/11 severred me irrevocably from the city of my birth, my childhood and my early adulthood. All I had to answer the question "What the FUCK happened here?" was my memories of watching the TV for 24 hours straight in the strangest kind of pain I've ever known.

After the visit to NY in Summer '04 I had a few more "souvenirs" I'd picked up there, to help me build an answer for myself to the question. They included the changes to my older brother's face, and an incredible slice of blue sky visible from a spot on Broadway in Lower Manhattan (across the street from where the Towers still were in my head) where there had never been a slice of blue sky to see before.

Reading Jonathan's memoir has given me another piece for my answer. I really appreciate it.


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Thanx for the memories dude!

yes, nice find, thanks dude