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  • Nysus
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2001
    • 7817

    #1

    Which Hosts Have Their Own NOC(s)?

    National-Net obviously does, I know Swiftwill has at least one, and I imagine Webair does too.

    Who else is there that allow adult? I imagine there are more than 20?

    Matt
    What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

    Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

    See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645
  • pradaboy
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    • Dec 2003
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    #2
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    • Nysus
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      • Aug 2001
      • 7817

      #3
      Thanks...

      Hmmm.. JupiterHosting is their own NOC?

      Matt
      What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

      Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

      See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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      • Paulzy
        So Fucking Banned
        • Sep 2002
        • 199

        #4
        IdealBandwidth, ExtremeRack, and AlphaRed have their own datacenters.

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        • Nysus
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2001
          • 7817

          #5
          Originally posted by Paulzy
          IdealBandwidth, ExtremeRack, and AlphaRed have their own datacenters.
          Never heard of AlphaRed.. Any personal experiences with them? Thanks by the way.

          Matt
          What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

          Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

          See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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          • born
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2001
            • 588

            #6
            Candidhosting... now Powermedium.com

            They have a huge operation!!!

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            • Rich
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jan 2003
              • 11486

              #7
              natnet is another.

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              • Nysus
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2001
                • 7817

                #8
                Didn't realize they changed their name. Thanks for reminding though.

                Matt
                What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                • Nysus
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 7817

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rich
                  natnet is another.
                  Yes, I mentioned that in my post.

                  Matt
                  What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                  Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                  See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                  • JUSTB
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1740

                    #10
                    We have 2 data centers in downtown Tampa, 1 in Austin, 1 in Chicago, 1 in Vancouver, 1 in Sydney, 1 in London, and I think multiple in Korea with Paris on the way.

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                    • loverboy
                      When it rains, it pours
                      • May 2003
                      • 20609

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Paulzy
                      IdealBandwidth, ExtremeRack, and AlphaRed have their own datacenters.
                      missed selling/promoting Extremerack, these guys are awesome.
                      btw, new kick ass design for ER.

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                        #12
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                        • SinisterStudios
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                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3087

                          #13
                          We have our own Noc too, but not sure what that proves? Anyone who does hosting should have a Noc, if they dont run, run fast. You should be asking what hosting companies have their own AS numbers and own their own IP space.
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                          • Ycaza
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 4290

                            #14
                            Yep NOC here too and your frindly neighborhood mad scientist/nee sales dude is a real network engineer so if you like you can use me as NOC too, everyone does anyway.at least in this case when you call the sales guy he knows whats goin on and can do something about it
                            Caz Thrush
                            Head Honcho
                            [email protected]
                            http://thrushtech.com
                            ICQ: 304883574
                            do people still icq?

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                            • Paulzy
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 199

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SinisterStudios
                              We have our own Noc too, but not sure what that proves? Anyone who does hosting should have a Noc, if they dont run, run fast. You should be asking what hosting companies have their own AS numbers and own their own IP space.

                              ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?
                              Any host who think's theyre a big shot because they have an AS# and their own IP space, shouldn't have any customers.


                              What a fucking idiot.

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                              • Theo
                                HAL 9000
                                • May 2001
                                • 34515

                                #16
                                let the host drama begin

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                                • Paulzy
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 199

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Nysus
                                  Never heard of AlphaRed.. Any personal experiences with them? Thanks by the way.

                                  Matt
                                  Alpha Red is great, management is better than any other hosting, even those everyone whines (excuse me promotes) about here on GFY.

                                  Unlike these other fuckers, like the 2 above my post, they have a REAL datacenter, that they PRIVATELY own and operate. NOT collocation inside some other datacenter.

                                  Here is a list of providers who DO NOT OWN their datacenter, but rather rent space and COLLOCATE inside another datacenter:

                                  SplitInfinity
                                  PhatServers
                                  ISPrime
                                  ServerProvider (resells splitinfinity)
                                  OC3 hosting or whatever theyre called (post right above mine)
                                  SinisterHosting (or whatever theyre calling; post above mine)
                                  ATCI
                                  Hostive
                                  Ch00pa
                                  MojoHost


                                  Those are the ones off the top of my head who DO NOT, GUARANTEED, have their OWN datacenters. If they claim otherwise, theyre blatantly lying, and anyone with a clue can verify that they do not own their datacenters.


                                  The following DO have their own NOCs, to the best of my knowledge:

                                  NatNet
                                  Alpha Red
                                  Webair
                                  IdealBandwidth
                                  ServerMatrix/ThePlanet
                                  EV1
                                  ExtremeRack



                                  So you can see not many do, and a lot lie their ass off.
                                  Last edited by Paulzy; 05-17-2005, 06:01 PM.

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                                  • reynold
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 51271

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by loverboy
                                    missed selling/promoting Extremerack, these guys are awesome.
                                    btw, new kick ass design for ER.

                                    Nice move man!

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                                    • SweetT
                                      Shank-A-Potamus
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 1756

                                      #19
                                      OK....Normally I dont get into these types of threads, but I am afraid that my press release may have sparked some controversy here so I want to be sure that everyone understands. It seems that many people do not really know what a NOC is.....A NOC is *not* a Data Center. Let me see if I can put this in easy to understand form....

                                      A Data Center is a room that houses servers, routers, switches, electricity, air conditioning, and lots of cables. This room is usually kept at about 68 degrees and is not the most fun place in the world to work at for hours and hours at the time.

                                      A NOC (or Network Operations Center) is a room where 24 hours a day System Administrators and Network Engineers sit in front of screens and answer phone calls and monitor stuff. It is kept at a nice 74 degrees and usually is attached to another room where tons of Mountain Dew and KitKats are kept....(see Break Room)

                                      Definition of Network Operations Center according to dictionary.com


                                      Seriously, there are very few people who operate a "true" NOC and there are even less that operate their own, privately held Data Center. I have not toured most of my competitors so I don't know first hand who operates what, but I can tell you that it is less than you would think.


                                      --T

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                                      • riddler
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2004
                                        • 3726

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SweetT
                                        OK....Normally I dont get into these types of threads, but I am afraid that my press release may have sparked some controversy here so I want to be sure that everyone understands. It seems that many people do not really know what a NOC is.....A NOC is *not* a Data Center. Let me see if I can put this in easy to understand form....

                                        A Data Center is a room that houses servers, routers, switches, electricity, air conditioning, and lots of cables. This room is usually kept at about 68 degrees and is not the most fun place in the world to work at for hours and hours at the time.

                                        A NOC (or Network Operations Center) is a room where 24 hours a day System Administrators and Network Engineers sit in front of screens and answer phone calls and monitor stuff. It is kept at a nice 74 degrees and usually is attached to another room where tons of Mountain Dew and KitKats are kept....(see Break Room)

                                        Definition of Network Operations Center according to dictionary.com


                                        Seriously, there are very few people who operate a "true" NOC and there are even less that operate their own, privately held Data Center. I have not toured most of my competitors so I don't know first hand who operates what, but I can tell you that it is less than you would think.


                                        --T
                                        Yeah most people do confuse a data center as a NOC, but most good companies have a NOC in the same place as the data center not some rented space and do the NOC stuff via ssh..
                                        You dont like to be in data centers? I love them nice and cool and nice air flow and peaceful haha i dont know why but i love data centers..

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                                        • SweetT
                                          Shank-A-Potamus
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 1756

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MrC
                                          Yeah most people do confuse a data center as a NOC, but most good companies have a NOC in the same place as the data center not some rented space and do the NOC stuff via ssh..
                                          You dont like to be in data centers? I love them nice and cool and nice air flow and peaceful haha i dont know why but i love data centers..

                                          I totally agree that most good companies have their NOC and their Data Center extremely close by...usually separated by only a wall or maybe a short elevator ride. You are exactly right.

                                          As for being in the DC, I dont really know you but it sounds like you are a true geek (said with the highest of compliments). All true geeks say the exact same thing when they are touring a real DC. Most of them will get a hard on just looking at the setup...until you have to spend about 10 hours inside. I cant speak for others, but I know with a couple of thousand servers humming and over 100 Tons of A/C blowing it is cold and loud...nothing peaceful about it


                                          --T

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                                          • riddler
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2004
                                            • 3726

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SweetT
                                            I totally agree that most good companies have their NOC and their Data Center extremely close by...usually separated by only a wall or maybe a short elevator ride. You are exactly right.

                                            As for being in the DC, I dont really know you but it sounds like you are a true geek (said with the highest of compliments). All true geeks say the exact same thing when they are touring a real DC. Most of them will get a hard on just looking at the setup...until you have to spend about 10 hours inside. I cant speak for others, but I know with a couple of thousand servers humming and over 100 Tons of A/C blowing it is cold and loud...nothing peaceful about it


                                            --T
                                            lol, true i just like the hum of computers and how its a steady temp in there, not sure why but i love em :D i used to sit and do web designing at a job i had in their data center rather than sitting at a desk lol

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                                            • rounders
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 2931

                                              #23
                                              nectartech does also
                                              ICQ#: 153923840

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                                              • Ycaza
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 4290

                                                #24
                                                actually

                                                Originally posted by Paulzy
                                                Alpha Red is great, management is better than any other hosting, even those everyone whines (excuse me promotes) about here on GFY.

                                                Unlike these other fuckers, like the 2 above my post, they have a REAL datacenter, that they PRIVATELY own and operate. NOT collocation inside some other datacenter.

                                                Here is a list of providers who DO NOT OWN their datacenter, but rather rent space and COLLOCATE inside another datacenter:

                                                SplitInfinity
                                                PhatServers
                                                ISPrime
                                                ServerProvider (resells splitinfinity)
                                                OC3 hosting or whatever theyre called (post right above mine)
                                                SinisterHosting (or whatever theyre calling; post above mine)
                                                ATCI
                                                Hostive
                                                Ch00pa
                                                MojoHost


                                                Those are the ones off the top of my head who DO NOT, GUARANTEED, have their OWN datacenters. If they claim otherwise, theyre blatantly lying, and anyone with a clue can verify that they do not own their datacenters.


                                                The following DO have their own NOCs, to the best of my knowledge:

                                                NatNet
                                                Alpha Red
                                                Webair
                                                IdealBandwidth
                                                ServerMatrix/ThePlanet
                                                EV1
                                                ExtremeRack



                                                So you can see not many do, and a lot lie their ass off.
                                                actually we have our own data center in downtown LA. all our privately hostted servers are there, but if you want to have bandwith in equinix or 1 wilshire or 1200 west 7th or the quinby building or in the bay are or vancouver or seattle where we also operate hosting facilities, both private and rented, you can have it. So please know before you go. No Isp on here has the peering we do. Please if you like don't use us, but quietly we are becoming a presence in adult. Thanks to our staff and customers, hey anyway thats enough bs from me. Point it is don't make assumptions.
                                                Caz Thrush
                                                Head Honcho
                                                [email protected]
                                                http://thrushtech.com
                                                ICQ: 304883574
                                                do people still icq?

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                                                • baddog
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 107089

                                                  #25
                                                  SweetT: OT, but is there a way I can contact you, or could you please contact me? ICQ 16075497 works for me.

                                                  Thank you in advance.

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                                                  • Hal
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 768

                                                    #26
                                                    do Liquidweb.com own their own data centre?
                                                    anybody use them?

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                                                    • goBigtime
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 7761

                                                      #27
                                                      Sadly, having a datacenter does not always = having a 24/7 staffed NOC.

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                                                      • theFeTiShLaDy
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                        • 2615

                                                        #28
                                                        Alphared has their own NOC which is based in Houston.
                                                        I'm a freelance babe!

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                                                        • Ycaza
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 4290

                                                          #29
                                                          if you have ever spent 30 or so hours in the data center you know real pain. Funny thing, I have been a network engineer/CTO for 5 years and i still kinda get a little flushed in a new datacenter, even those lame dirty telecomhotels in some places. I like to bring submissive girls to ones where we have lots of cages.....
                                                          Caz Thrush
                                                          Head Honcho
                                                          [email protected]
                                                          http://thrushtech.com
                                                          ICQ: 304883574
                                                          do people still icq?

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                                                          • SweetT
                                                            Shank-A-Potamus
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 1756

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                            SweetT: OT, but is there a way I can contact you, or could you please contact me? ICQ 16075497 works for me.

                                                            Thank you in advance.

                                                            Hey baddog....Sorry, but I don't do the ICQ thing...havent since like 1999....and I must admit that I get a whole lot more done without it than I ever did with it.

                                                            You can email me at tony(*DOT*)morgan(-AT-)natnet(^DOT^)com or you can call me at the office, toll free 1.877.471.9075 x222, however I won't be there until about 10am EST.

                                                            If I dont hear from you sometime this morning, I will call some mutual friend and have then ICQ you


                                                            --T

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                                                            • SinisterStudios
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                              • 3087

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Paulzy
                                                              ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?
                                                              Any host who think's theyre a big shot because they have an AS# and their own IP space, shouldn't have any customers.


                                                              What a fucking idiot.
                                                              Yup im the biggest idiot on GFY, i have been in commercial hosting for the past 8 years and have many large Fortune 1000 companies as our clients but im the idiot. Sorry i have no idea what im talking about and ill go crawl back under my rock since you are the king of the hosting world and i have to bow down to you.
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                                                              • justsexxx
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 13723

                                                                #32
                                                                I know isprime is located in the building where all servers are. So when there is a problem, then can walk in a few minutes to my server.(if needed)

                                                                However, they do not own the DC they use. (as far as I know) Of course they have their own ip's etc. And also the BW providers thay carry are many many
                                                                http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/23/AS23393.htm

                                                                Not sure what having an AS number means since I'm just a user. But they do have their own

                                                                Andre
                                                                Questions?

                                                                ICQ: 125184542

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                                                                • pradaboy
                                                                  sell me your banners
                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 12931

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                  I know isprime is located in the building where all servers are. So when there is a problem, then can walk in a few minutes to my server.(if needed)

                                                                  However, they do not own the DC they use. (as far as I know) Of course they have their own ip's etc. And also the BW providers thay carry are many many
                                                                  http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/23/AS23393.htm

                                                                  Not sure what having an AS number means since I'm just a user. But they do have their own

                                                                  Andre
                                                                  I thought they did own the DC... guess I'm confused
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                                                                  • various
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 114

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pradaboy
                                                                    I thought they did own the DC... guess I'm confused
                                                                    As far as I know they're located at Telehouse - http://www.telehouse.com/



                                                                    Why settle for less..

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                                                                    • loverboy
                                                                      When it rains, it pours
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 20609

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by reynold
                                                                      Nice move man!
                                                                      thanks bro, im still scouting for the next Hosting company which I can
                                                                      promote. My average sales was 10 servers/mon, dedicated server

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                                                                      • LBBV
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 936

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by loverboy
                                                                        thanks bro, im still scouting for the next Hosting company which I can
                                                                        promote. My average sales was 10 servers/mon, dedicated server

                                                                        Hello loverboy,

                                                                        If you're really interested in promoting a great host on a commission basis, please let me know. I can be reached at bill AT natnet DOT com. Ask around before you contact me so that you can be sure you're promoting one of the best
                                                                        National Net Hosting. Handled.
                                                                        See our new line of inexpensive Dedicated Servers | Cabinets starting at $795 | CDN
                                                                        [email protected] | 888-4-NATNET | www.nationalnet.com

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                                                                        • baddog
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                          • 107089

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by SweetT
                                                                          Hey baddog....Sorry, but I don't do the ICQ thing...havent since like 1999....and I must admit that I get a whole lot more done without it than I ever did with it.

                                                                          You can email me at tony(*DOT*)morgan(-AT-)natnet(^DOT^)com or you can call me at the office, toll free 1.877.471.9075 x222, however I won't be there until about 10am EST.

                                                                          If I dont hear from you sometime this morning, I will call some mutual friend and have then ICQ you


                                                                          --T

                                                                          Thanks, just saw this. Sending email now.

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                                                                          • loverboy
                                                                            When it rains, it pours
                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                            • 20609

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by theFeTiShLaDy
                                                                            Alphared has their own NOC which is based in Houston.
                                                                            hey sexy, its been a while since Ived seen you around
                                                                            maybe, we can hook up sometime

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                                                                            • loverboy
                                                                              When it rains, it pours
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 20609

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by LBBV
                                                                              Hello loverboy,

                                                                              If you're really interested in promoting a great host on a commission basis, please let me know. I can be reached at bill AT natnet DOT com. Ask around before you contact me so that you can be sure you're promoting one of the best
                                                                              got you in my list, you can drop me an ICQ message anytime.
                                                                              looking someone to promote per monthly basis

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                                                                              • LBBV
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                • 936

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by loverboy
                                                                                got you in my list, you can drop me an ICQ message anytime.
                                                                                looking someone to promote per monthly basis

                                                                                Just drop me an email and we'll talk. If you send me real business, I'll make sure that you're happy enough to continue to send me real business
                                                                                National Net Hosting. Handled.
                                                                                See our new line of inexpensive Dedicated Servers | Cabinets starting at $795 | CDN
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